A burner phone is not 100% fool proof. The networks records the IMEI of the phone used and which cell tower was used. Telecommunication companies keep a record of that. So if you used your debit card/credit card to buy that phone if police wanted to they can trace it back to you because you left a trace.
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If you pay cash no such issue. Why would anyone use a credit card to buy a burner phone???????? Like WTF, that totally defeats the purpose. There are 2 Kings in this world: Cash and Elvis.
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If they were to call the clients phone numbers then it would need a team of probably 100 staffs to go through the list, find the identity with cellular providers, make all the follow up calls and write the accusations, 10 district attorneys for the charges and 20 juges! Some here say they can go back 1 year, so lets say 5 girls / day x 7 clients x 365 days = 13,000 validations and inculpations + 10,000 texts with potential clients who didnt book ! That would be the ONLY priority for Montreal police for the next 10 years ! Hahahaha
One thing i remember about LFMJ is that they never advertised on the boards. It was always done through newspaper ads (Le Journal de Montreal, The Mirror, etc) and as long as you had their number written down you were good since the girls listed in their ads didn’t mean much anyway from what i remember. I remember calling a few times when they had a couple of girls with the same name working. Sometimes i noticed girls listed hadn’t worked in weeks. Often girls he mentioned who were working weren’t even listed in their ad. A few times he sent a different girl than the one who was supposed to show up but i didn’t complain since the girls he sent instead were hot as hell. I still remember when i’d call he’d never ask for my name or how to contact me. It was “Where are you located? Okay i got Kim, Josee, Joelle & Natasha available in your area right now. She can be there in 15 minutes. Oh and Josee is also available in about an hour if you want to wait.” I’d say “You already mentioned her.” He’d say “That’s a different one. Another Josee. This one has blond hair, the other one’s a brunette.” If i’d tell him to send Natasha, for example, i had no idea if she’d be the one showing up. Lol. And what i liked about him & the rates structure is that it encouraged multiple hours. First hour was $130 & the extra hours were $100. Often if i liked what i saw i’d immediately tell her othat i wanted to add an hour & she’d tell him when making her call & i was never refused. If by the end of the second hour i wanted to extend i’d tell her & she’d call him & he’d say ok. He even told me once to just call him later if i want to add another hour again. My record with one of his girls was five hours! Lol.
Regarding your question in the last paragraph why there weren’t more incall agencies at the time is that i think there were more of them however they mostly advertised in the newspapers. Many still weren’t too savy with how the internet worked in the early 2000’s or simply had enough business to bother. I remember several independents offering incall. Remember Sophia’s Pleasures? Private Lies was also extremely popular at the time until they got busted. A hobbyist i knew back then was at one of their incall locations when the cops came busting in. He said he managed to escape through a stairwell when he heard a commotion going on & right away figured it could be a bust so he grabbed his clothes & escaped nefore the cops showed up. Another guy i knew was caught in one of their busts & had to show up in court. He had to pay off someone via his lawyer to keep his name out of the papers. I remember him telling me that the person who denounced him was one of the girls he saw whom he suspected was being extorted by the cops.
Or like in Hong Kong, to "try" to reduce the scam scheme using a phone, they'll enact a law that force you to show a real identity in order to purchase a SIM.
How many times will we have to repeat that, absent other aggravating factors, the likelihood that police will try to "track down" a client is extremely low?
I would also add that, of the 153 people arrested for buying sex from an adult in Quebec in 2024 (see my post #843), a large fraction were likely denounced to the police by a sex worker for other criminal acts (e.g. theft, assault). The large year over year increase in the (still very small) number of arrests is likely not mainly due to changing political priorities, as I suggested in my initial post. After further thought and discussion with a source in the industry, I think it's more likely that, in the post #MeToo era, women, including sex workers, feel more empowered to denounce to authorities various forms of abuse by men, and that one direct consequence of this is an increase in arrests for buying sex (see my point above about related criminal acts). I will remind everyone that the current legal framework aims to protect sex workers and to criminalize their clients.
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