Where are the new escorts? They seem to all be the same working week after week

[Marl]

Hey
Looking at the agencies and seems like the same girls working day after day or week after week- very few newcomers.
Euphoria, Forever, luxury all have the same lineup (and nothing special out there) these girls are working 30-40 hours a week….i find that a little eh…

 

[AstonMartinBond]

Hey
Looking at the agencies and seems like the same girls working day after day or week after week- very few newcomers.
Euphoria, Forever, luxury all have the same lineup (and nothing special out there) these girls are working 30-40 hours a week….i find that a little eh…

Ok, don’t book and don’t look then.

 

[Marl]

Ok, don’t book and don’t look then.

I guess you agree

 

[AstonMartinBond]

I guess you agree

Nop, they can work when they want.

 

[Fradi]

As long as they keep getting booked there is no incentive for new blood.

The young women of today aren’t that interested in becoming escorts. It is not exactly the life ambition of most.
I can’t even imagine how hard this lifestyle and stigma can be for them and it affects most eventually.

Very few live the glamorous glob trotting life style that are depicted in some movies lol.
Many have trouble making rent at the end of the month.

 

[AnthonyAnderson]

It's likely to be due to a combination of factors, some of them mentioned by the member above. The emergence of online sex work as an alternative (e.g. OnlyFans) is often identified as one, although some observers, myself included, doubt that it is a significant factor, because earnings are meager for the vast majority of "creators".

I am going to put forth a new hypothesis to explain in part the low number of new escorts working for agencies in recent years: the clients. What if the quality of clients has declined so much that the word is spreading that working in agencies is not "worth it" anymore? (see note 1). To illustrate my point, I wil use the example of public transit, because this is a place where all social classes co-mingle, and because all social classes (except the very poor) patronize escort agencies. What do we observe in public transit? An abundance of bad manners. Feet on the seats, loud conversations of speakerphone, bad body odour, people not giving up their seat for the elderly or disabled, etc. As a long time (20 years) user of public transit and social observer, I can assure you all of this has become much worse over the past 10 years or so. I have also heard first hand complaints from escorts about their clientele, bad hygiene being the main, but not the only one. This may lead women who wish to engage in lucrative sex work to enter the world of SB/SD arrangements, where they exerce a much greater control on who they are dealing with (see note 2).

Notes:
1) One of the main ways women join an agency is through a friend who has worked at the agency.
2) On the main platforms for independent escorts (Tryst and IndyCompanion) one sees almost only experienced escorts.

 

[Gazoo64]

Yeah, as the OP said, it must be tough for the AGENCY SPs that have been in this industry for years and years, and still work long shifts at the agency.

If they would transition to Indy, at least they could be selective about which clients they see, make their own schedule and be lower volume.

Or if they would do this part-time, while transitioning to a civilian job, I guess it would be better.

I guess each situation is different and it’s not for us to judge. Could be many factors: difficulty getting a decent civilian job, financial issues, etc.
Who knows?

 

[2fast2slow]

this has been discussed so many times. while the number of agencies has diminished, massage parlours have proliferated

 

[Delicateyumi]

Why be an escort when you can make the same amount doing something else? I pay my nail tech and my lash tech the same amount these girls get to give out full gfe for an hour. There used to be a better incentive for girls to join agencies because there were not that many options to make money with low barriers as a woman, except bartending and stripping.
It also has become way easier for pimps to advertise directly, no need to go by clubs or agencies to make your girl work anymore. With that, you see less young new girls working with agencies and just the same girls who have been working for a while and enjoy this work model.
Also, it’s summer, all the girls are on vacation and the economy is so bad. Wait for winter and you will see more diversity, girls touring ect. Once the economy is back on track, more girls are gonna want to try it out aswell. There’s still a lot of girls to try within those agencies, sometimes I see 15 girls working some days!

 

[Marl]

Why be an escort when you can make the same amount doing something else? I pay my nail tech and my lash tech the same amount these girls get to give out full gfe for an hour. There used to be a better incentive for girls to join agencies because there were not that many options to make money with low barriers as a woman, except bartending and stripping.
It also has become way easier for pimps to advertise directly, no need to go by clubs or agencies to make your girl work anymore. With that, you see less young new girls working with agencies and just the same girls who have been working for a while and enjoy this work model.
Also, it’s summer, all the girls are on vacation and the economy is so bad. Wait for winter and you will see more diversity, girls touring ect. Once the economy is back on track, more girls are gonna want to try it out aswell. There’s still a lot of girls to try within those agencies, sometimes I see 15 girls working some days!

Agree with some of your points however don’t you think when the economy is bad is when the girls need this type of work?

 

[IamNY]

Hey
Looking at the agencies and seems like the same girls working day after day or week after week- very few newcomers.
Euphoria, Forever, luxury all have the same lineup (and nothing special out there) these girls are working 30-40 hours a week….i find that a little eh…

You can add year after year as well.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

Ok, don’t book and don’t look then.

Agreed.

This conversation happens every month.

 

[CLOUD 500]

I pay my nail tech and my lash tech the same amount these girls get to give out full gfe for an hour.

This comparison does not make any sense. Sure you might pay the same amount but that is not what they get paid, it is a lot less. It is like the auto mechanics or electricians, you pay $80/hr but they get paid $25 to $30/hr at most. And nail and lash tech got a schedule, a SP can work whenever she feels like it and take off any day she wants. Not the same thing at all.

 

[Delicateyumi]

This comparison does not make any sense. Sure you might pay the same amount but that is not what they get paid, it is a lot less. It is like the auto mechanics or electricians, you pay $80/hr but they get paid $25 to $30/hr at most. And nail and lash tech got a schedule, a SP can work whenever she feels like it and take off any day she wants. Not the same thing at all.

It is the same thing my love, because it’s their own business! That’s why I made the comparaison. They have full control over their schedules, their rates, who books them, ect. I wouldn’t get my nails or my lashes done in a salon that offers them lol, that’s cheap and bound to give me an infection.
Obviously, there’s costs, but we have costs aswell as escorts, even in agencies. Ubers, drivers, incall cost ( some agencies make you pay a fee to work out of their place ) then your cut on top of that, you’re also not left with, exemple, 260h or 450h.
My nail tech clears 1000$+ every working day she puts on her schedule. If you try this before escorting, you’re obviously not gonna follow through with sex work.

 

[CLOUD 500]

It is the same thing my love, because it’s their own business! That’s why I made the comparaison. They have full control over their schedules, their rates, who books them, ect. I wouldn’t get my nails or my lashes done in a salon that offers them lol, that’s cheap and bound to give me an infection.
Obviously, there’s costs, but we have costs aswell as escorts, even in agencies. Ubers, drivers, incall cost ( some agencies make you pay a fee to work out of their place ) then your cut on top of that, you’re also not left with, exemple, 260h or 450h.
My nail tech clears 1000$+ every working day she puts on her schedule. If you try this before escorting, you’re obviously not gonna follow through with sex work.

I meant employees of nail and lashes tech places. For a business owner then I can see the comparison you made making sense.

 

[Delicateyumi]

Agree with some of your points however don’t you think when the economy is bad is when the girls need this type of work?

No cause there’s no clients left to spend any money. Girls have a hard time making money at 100$ fssw places right now. Agencies’ main clientele is the working class/middle class, they don’t have any money to spare.
These girls are not working 5-6 days for fun, they’re just not making enough.

 

[CLOUD 500]

No cause there’s no clients left to spend any money. Girls have a hard time making money at 100$ fssw places right now. Agencies’ main clientele is the working class/middle class, they don’t have any money to spare.
These girls are not working 5-6 days for fun, they’re just not making enough.

Not too sure about that. Agencies post-covid are booked solid each day. Just to book the most popular girls you got to keep refreshing the schedule and send the text right away. Even less popular girls are getting booked. Someone obviously has the budget to spend.

 

[Delicateyumi]

I meant employees of nail and lashes tech places. For a business owner then I can see the comparison you made making sense.

I mean, these places are family runned usually so they like all reap the proceeds. I don’t know that many escort agencies who make their own daughters work in it

 

[Delicateyumi]

Not too sure about that. Agencies post-covid are booked solid each day. Just to book the most popular girls you got to keep refreshing the schedule and send the text right away. Even less popular girls are getting booked. Someone obviously has the budget to spend.

Yes obviously, the girls have their regulars and they’ve been able to build their status, but they’ve been working for so long. The same girls years after years, who are not delusional about how much money you can make doing sw in Montreal. Try to tell a civ woman that if she wants to make a quick 800$ she’s gonna have to fuck 5 guys doing dfk bbj daty cim ect…it’s not super enticing let’s say.
Agencies used to be able to recruit new talent because the promises were life changing.

 

[Marl]

Yes obviously, the girls have their regulars and they’ve been able to build their status, but they’ve been working for so long. The same girls years after years, who are not delusional about how much money you can make doing sw in Montreal. Try to tell a civ woman that if she wants to make a quick 800$ she’s gonna have to fuck 5 guys doing dfk bbj daty cim ect…it’s not super enticing let’s say.
Agencies used to be able to recruit new talent because the promises were life changing.

I believe if a new agency opened with slightly higher rates say 350-400h ( but also better looking and more selective ladies) you would have newer girls having to see less clients per day.. making them more appealing as well.
I would rather see 1 good looking girl a month vs 2 from euphoria, luxury, vog that are under average worn out, been around the block so many many times a month
Montreal must be the cheapest by far in all of North America.
For Americans that come here it’s a joke- costs them well under 200usd -nowhere else is that possible.