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One big difference though: As far as I know, Musk has not done anything requiring imprisonment but Trump should have been imprisoned for life immediately following the violent, treasonous attempted coup of January 6, 2021.

A second big difference: Musk is far more intelligent than Bunker Boy.
I would say at least a thousand times more intelligent !
 
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I don't know about a thousand times, but I know these numbers.... trump's a ONE term, TWICE impeached, soon to be indicated ex-potus who is under THREE criminal investigations.
And he’s also a defendant in 23 lawsuits & one includes a legit rape accusation where today he flatly refused to give a DNA sample. One of the biggest criminals in US history!
 

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Obligatory: if Obama had said this, there'd be a FAR different reaction...
If you played the drinking game of "Things That Would Be Very Bad if Obama or Hillary said/did it, But Ok when Trump Does," you'd be dead of alcohol poisoning in ten minutes flat.

There are just too many examples of modern Republicans brazenly contradicting former stances on deference to cops, classified material, the Constitution, government corruption, government spending etc. There are no sincerely held Republican positions; there are only Republican positions held to strictly attack their perceived opponents.
 

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Trump Crime Family Chronicles
 

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..and many are still cheering for this crook to run the country again ....incredible.
Since "Mexicans are rapists and I'm sure some are nice people," demeaning John McCain and every insane thing after that, Trump's support has always been a symptom. The disease, an uncurable one at that by this point, are the people who still vote for him after seeing or hearing every unconscionable thing he does.

Same goes for the Republican Party that supports him no matter what because they need the votes of his idiots. Even with this "terminate the Constitution" nonsense, there are Republicans like Mitch McConnell or Kevin McCarthy who cannot bring themselves to say in public, "No, I no longer support Donald Trump. This is a bridge too far." They dance around how he cannot win an election but they don't disqualify him. Shit, there have been election officials who have been directly harassed because of Trump's lies about the election like Rusty Bowers and Brad Raffensberger who didn't rule out voting for Trump again or actively said they would. In Bower's case he actually said he would vote for Trump (if Trump ran against Biden again and how wonderful the economy was pre-COVID), then later said he would no longer vote for Trump. But that the decision to vote again for Trump--after what he put you through!--was a difficult choice is the madness currently in the country.

I've never voted for Trump (obviously :D) and even though from 2016 I thought it was obvious he's not presidential in anyway, I'm VERY, VERY slightly sympathetic to the idea of "Hey, let's give him a shot." But after EVERYTHING that's happened and being said, Trump is still your guy? There isn't anything he can do or say to disqualify him?! The future of this country looks very dismal.
 

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Since "Mexicans are rapists and I'm sure some are nice people," demeaning John McCain and every insane thing after that, Trump's support has always been a symptom. The disease, an uncurable one at that by this point, are the people who still vote for him after seeing or hearing every unconscionable thing he does.

Same goes for the Republican Party that supports him no matter what because they need the votes of his idiots. Even with this "terminate the Constitution" nonsense, there are Republicans like Mitch McConnell or Kevin McCarthy who cannot bring themselves to say in public, "No, I no longer support Donald Trump. This is a bridge too far." They dance around how he cannot win an election but they don't disqualify him. Shit, there have been election officials who have been directly harassed because of Trump's lies about the election like Rusty Bowers and Brad Raffensberger who didn't rule out voting for Trump again or actively said they would. In Bower's case he actually said he would vote for Trump (if Trump ran against Biden again and how wonderful the economy was pre-COVID), then later said he would no longer vote for Trump. But that the decision to vote again for Trump--after what he put you through!--was a difficult choice is the madness currently in the country.

I've never voted for Trump (obviously :D) and even though from 2016 I thought it was obvious he's not presidential in anyway, I'm VERY, VERY slightly sympathetic to the idea of "Hey, let's give him a shot." But after EVERYTHING that's happened and being said, Trump is still your guy? There isn't anything he can do or say to disqualify him?! The future of this country looks very dismal.
In the primaries in 2016, I told myself : what a despictable human being.
My opinion never changed since then.
At the the beginning of the Covid pandemic, he proved his complete ignorance of any science matters.
Except when he told at a European G7 meeting I think, that it was an American that invented the Wheel !
 

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As of tonight the money laundering rapist, embezzeler, tax cheat, murderer, pedophile, raving lunatic has likely lost his grip on the Republican party. No more Fox News & Mitch McConnell to protect him. He’s kryptonite to every politician he supports. He was impeached twice, something that has never happened to any President. He’s defended & befriended the world’s worst tyrants. He was a one-term President & didn’t even have the courage to concede. His attempt at organizing a coup against the US government failed. He loves bigots, racists & anti semites. He’s a loser & we are all enjoying his quick downfall! Trumpism is dead!
 

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In the primaries in 2016, I told myself : what a despictable human being.
My opinion never changed since then.
At the the beginning of the Covid pandemic, he proved his complete ignorance of any science matters.
Except when he told at a European G7 meeting I think, that it was an American that invented the Wheel !
I'm with you. I thought the Mexican rapist comment was awful.

Then he insulted a guy who actually gave his body in service to the country. John McCain could have been released early from the POW camps in Vietnam because his father was a military big wig. McCain declined because he wanted those imprisoned before him to get released first. If that isn't the definition of honor, then I don't know what the word means. Till the day he died, he couldn't lift up one of his arms due to how badly he was tortured. Instead, you had a guy whose personal Vietnam was avoiding STIs, that never served, insult an honorable military man--and the majority of the GOP electorate went along with it.

Trump was done to me from the moment he insulted McCain. It only got worse because he kept finding another low to stoop to. There is no bottom for him--none. The Marianas Trench is the lowest known point on Earth. For Republicans, that may as well Mount Everest.

Doc, all you people writing Trump's epitaph keep underestimating his super power that up to a third of electorate love him regardless of what he does. And if more people feel emboldened to run for the Republican nomination in 2024, then that replicates how Trump won the nomination in 2016. The field was so splintered with too many candidates that someone like Trump that had the plurality but not majority won. The Republican field is going to have to do what Buttiegieg did and consolidate votes (which allowed a head to head of Biden and Sanders) if they don't want a repeat of 2016.
 
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The Trump Organization, the family real estate business that made Donald J. Trump a billionaire and propelled him from reality television to the White House, was convicted on Tuesday of tax fraud and other crimes, forever tarring the former president and the company that bears his name.

The conviction on all 17 counts, after more than a day of jury deliberations in State Supreme Court in Manhattan, stemmed from the company’s practice of doling out off-the-books perks to executives: They received luxury apartments, leased Mercedes-Benzes, extra cash at Christmas, even free cable television. They paid taxes on none of it.
 

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The Trump Organization, the family real estate business that made Donald J. Trump a billionaire and propelled him from reality television to the White House, was convicted on Tuesday of tax fraud and other crimes, forever tarring the former president and the company that bears his name.

The conviction on all 17 counts, after more than a day of jury deliberations in State Supreme Court in Manhattan, stemmed from the company’s practice of doling out off-the-books perks to executives: They received luxury apartments, leased Mercedes-Benzes, extra cash at Christmas, even free cable television. They paid taxes on none of it.
I always knew trump was the worst public villain
 

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Trump organization found guilty on all counts of tax fraud.
How can anyone be found guilty of tax fraud when the very idea of taxation is theft? Government has been stealing everyones earnings since the Income Tax Act? Is anyone from government will ever be held responsible for robbery?
 

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How can anyone be found guilty of tax fraud when the very idea of taxation is theft? Government has been stealing everyones earnings since the Income Tax Act? Is anyone from government will ever be held responsible for robbery?
Like sometimes I wonder if you're genuinely serious or trolling the fuck out of everyone?! It's a legitimate debate to wonder how much taxes one should pay, but to be against all taxes as theft? Do you think the roads you drive on, or municipal services pay for themselves?

I recently read a story from 2010 about a guy whose house burned down because firefighters refused to put out the fire. The homeowner had forgotten to pay a $75 fee that is required for fire department services.


The libertarian argument, as put forth by people like Glenn Beck, is that if the firefighters had put out the fire for the non-paying homeowner, then the non-paying homeowner would be mooching off paying homeowners.

Ok so if you make everyone pay, no one would be mooching off anyone, right? Do you know what we call it when we make everyone pay so they have equal access to public services? They're called taxes.
 
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