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CLOUD 500

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Seem to me like a porn wikileaks type of place. For exemple somebody could register my number (a booker from an agency i used, an indy etc) and link it to Halloween Mike. But since i gave my first name in most cases, and some peoples even got my last name, then my name could be link to my number too. I used to be reachable on facebook by my number as well before learning about it.

You got it... This is was the kind of thing I was talking about but Julia Sky does not seem to get it... I would be embarrassed :pound:

So in that vein i guess i could be registered there.

But this is all manual stuff. So if i would get a new phone and never tell anyone im me, and only see ladies i never seen before, nobody could really know me and my new number are linked to one another.

Yep exactly. Your number could show up if it is ever linked to something on the internet. Best way is to never use your mobile number for anything. If you create a website leave the number out.
 

Julia Sky

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My phone was never linked to anything. You definitely can't seem to read properly. I never used my real phone number for anything at all on internet yet it's still identified as Lexie Diamond.

Please read this 5 times before answering.

I didn't think someone would have such a hard time understanding the simple concept that people who search a number on that website are the ones who click "Suggest a name" and that's why some names/nicknames are written on said site. Do I need to draw it for you ?
 

CLOUD 500

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Julia Sky,

Instead of all this "I can" and "No you cannot" how about you prove your theory and post the link to the so called website you are referring to? That would put an end to all of this. Yes please I need you to draw it for me. Lol
 

Halloween Mike

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My phone was never linked to anything. I never used my real phone number for anything at all on internet yet it's still identified as Lexie Diamond.

Probably someone who knows you and did this to be an ass...

I think you both actually agree on the same thing but does not seem to realize it lol.

Can we at least all agree that this website is pretty shitty and shouldn't exist?
 

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well it is interesting ...
If this thread about websites as truecaller ... won't give any link but it is very easy to find!

DO NOT USE those shit ... as to use it you need to register and guess what happens
upon registering it'll download all your cell's information and then you will be able to change the permission! lol
what a joke :der:

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View your profile info and contact list
Truecaller will be able to see your profile info, including your name, gender, display picture, contacts, and friends.
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Sign in automatically
Signing in with your Microsoft account will automatically sign you in to this app.​
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Access your info anytime
Truecaller will be able to see and update your info, even when you're not using this app.​
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Access email addresses
Truecaller will have access to your and your contacts' email addresses.

Access phone numbers
Truecaller will have access to your phone numbers and the phone numbers of your contacts.

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Halloween Mike

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Since i got a more modern cell this a trend i saw with "apps" , they often want to have acces to my cell's info, that is why for instance i refused to sign up with snapchat... even tough i would love to follow some peoples on that.
 

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Julia Sky,

Instead of all this "I can" and "No you cannot" how about you prove your theory and post the link to the so called website you are referring to? That would put an end to all of this. Yes please I need you to draw it for me. Lol

Cloud... I think Julia is talking about 3rd party systems that actually do harvest phone numbers. I believe that some Sps also have a common site where phone numbers are reported and indexed.
Is it accurate? I have no idea... I don't know how technically inclined she is... but I'm sure she is successfully using something that has helped her out.

Youre right, telecom companies can't share client info (especially in Canada)... but there are currently so many other companies that do... that it kinda loops back to the same result.

If its truecaller... you can access it... just make sure to use a dummy gmail to link to it... use a throwaway.Then you can run queries on numbers and see the output.
google "truecaller vs" and see the auto suggest.... and follow the rabbit

There are many such systems that exist that were initially created to identify spam callers... but these guys have been purchasing all sorts of databases.
And its going to get worst.... with net nutrality and other laws changing , many places are going to be dumping their client databases.

That also means that a lot of shitty systems are going to get hacked and big data is going to leak...

Consider https://haveibeenpwned.com/ this site have collected every leaked database in the last few years (Paypal, Linkedin, AshleyMadison, etc... + hundreds of thousands of other client databases that have ever been leaked on pastebin, darknet etc...)

These systems do exist.... wanna really freak out... go search about Signaling System 7 (SS7 hacks)... that shit is insane. Using 2 factor authentication on your phone?... can be bypassed... read up about doxxing

My point... if you're using a standard sim card off a standard telecom mobile network... vulnerable
Using an ISP that have hops in the states? vulnerable
using a commercial vpn ? very vulnerable
using software you paid for to protect your computer? AVG Paid?... vulnerable and openly sold (
http://www.wired.co.uk/article/avg-privacy-policy-browser-search-data)

My point? there has been a marketplace for a few years now.... its not a new thing. data has been moving around and some have been compiling all of it... others have been selling access to it.
Then you have the extra paranoid... I have an emergency phone I lend out to friends that visit etc... using a Petrocanada pay as you go sim card... the number is blacklisted lol so everyone thinks I'm some scammer asshole.
I hope that isn't what they are using, but I'm sure its helping... but there will be false positives... that's life.

when that happens, I validate via merb or some other method...

I dont blame them one bit.. on the contrary... but it also punishes a lot of good customers as well that seriously need to be protected with the current laws.

There must be better options

Thoughts?



PS. @pat98 100% agree with your statement
 

Julia Sky

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Cloud... I think Julia is talking about 3rd party systems that actually do harvest phone numbers. // I'm sure she is successfully using something that has helped her out.

Youre right, telecom companies can't share client info (especially in Canada)... but there are currently so many other companies that do... that it kinda loops back to the same result.

If its truecaller... you can access it... just make sure to use a dummy gmail to link to it... use a throwaway.Then you can run queries on numbers and see the output.

THANK GOD.

I did make sure to use an empty, useless Gmail. And I never use it on my phone either.

Anyways YAY someone who understands. I thought it was so childish to think anyone would "pretend" those sites exist. AND to keep going after the site was even posted lmao. I could literally picture a kid being like "NANANANANAAAA doesn't exist hihihi u liar" like come on. Were in 2017 and I'm a teen, pretty sure I know my share of internet lol. I started feeling sorry and embarrassed for him...
 

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I started feeling sorry and embarrassed for him...

I wouldn't go that far... it looked more like miscommunication on both sides to be honest. I think he got stuck on one thing you said... and you guys just didn't let it go.
 
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Ok, but that's not the point. Julia sky claims to be able have the name associated with any cell #. Anyways that's what I understood. We All know that if u do not secure your info on Facebook or the web, one can search for this. There r several sires which leaked sensitive info which was stolen from various web sites. And if u know where to look, this info is available.
However if your careful not to associate u cell and personal data on public web sites, then the only way to connect u to a cell # is thru court order. This makes more sense, than Julia sky claim "i can find ANY name associated with a #.
 

Julia Sky

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Ok, but that's not the point. Julia sky claims to be able have the name associated with any cell #.


Except I did say multiple times SOMETIMES. SOME phone numbers. Don't be a cloud, please. I never NEVER NEVER said I could find ANY name, can you read all of my posts. WOW. People need to read better than this !


Lots of girls do, including myself. There's a website who does it for free, it either tells us your name if someone already identified you, or it at least tells is if your number is real or not.


I did say in an earlier post that the name is only available if someone already registered it on the website.

you don't seem to understand what I'm saying, it's ok. The names available there are suggested by people who use the website.
 

Julia Sky

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I only read what I want too and not what I need too

''and then I assume things, starting with ''thats not the point'' even though I have no clue what the point really is, and I say people said things they didn't say, and I even tell them what they didnt say makes no sense LOL''

*facepalm*
 
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''and then I assume things, starting with ''thats not the point'' even though I have no clue what the point really is, and I say people said things they didn't say, and I even tell them what they didnt say makes no sense LOL''

*facepalm*

Go back to your posts 21 and 30, that's where all the confusion comes from. Nuff said.....
 

Julia Sky

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Go back to your posts 21 and 30, that's where all the confusion comes from. Nuff said.....


None of them say I can always get the name. It literally just states that we can.

I can swim doesnt mean I go swimming on a daily basis.

Nuff said, hope by now everyone understood the point (lol), and subject is close.
 

Sol Tee Nutz

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Look behind you.
None of them say I can always get the name. It literally just states that we can.

I can swim doesnt mean I go swimming on a daily basis.

Nuff said, hope by now everyone understood the point (lol), and subject is close.

Impartial witness here, you did not say all but from what I read on your posts you did imply it, to my understanding also. Then again, I am old and use a lot of cereal.
 

CLOUD 500

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Julia Sky,

You make claims without proving your point and you also seem to misunderstand what I write maybe my English is too complicated or too technical for you? You also failed to provide a link to whatever it was you were talking about which Pat98 so kindly did. Now I go back to what I was saying which you do not seem to comprehend perhaps English is not your first language? I will try to use more simpler English to which maybe even you would understand. What I wrote is that there is no way to trace a number to the actual owner as it is against telecommunications law. Wireless service providers would be open to lawsuits. However the only way such info would be found is if and I REPEAT if the user of that number now I say user as technically anyone can be using a cell number... It can belong to a sibliing or friend and someone else is using it so that person becomes the user attaches or publicly attaches that number to any host of publicly available sites or even a advertisement... Truecaller belongs into this category. To search you must create an account using your email and if you download the app you must create it from your cellphone using the app.

Truecaller needs your permission to:
View your profile info and contact list
Truecaller will be able to see your profile info, including your name, gender, display picture, contacts, and friends.
Sign in automatically
Signing in with your Microsoft account will automatically sign you in to this app.
Access your info anytime
Truecaller will be able to see and update your info, even when you're not using this app.
Access email addresses
Truecaller will have access to your and your contacts' email addresses.
Access phone numbers
Truecaller will have access to your phone numbers and the phone numbers of your contacts.


Now Truecaller wants access to all this information and you were a victim of this. Looool But this info is only as good as whatever you entered into these accounts or in your phone. So unless you CHOOSE to use Truecaller your number would be untraceable and even if you find something the info is unreliable because whoever that used it could have put anything they want to so it is kind of worthless. It is kind of like what Halloween Mike talked about like Snapchat... To create an account you must link your phone number but people change phone numbers after some time and unless they choose to update the number it will give you the incorrect name. So maybe some other Merbite can spell this out to you in English for children since you really do not seem to comprehend. I would be so embarrassed if I were you :pound:. As Neverbored stated it is a miscommunication.
 

CLOUD 500

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None of them say I can always get the name. It literally just states that we can.

You are playing with words. The two essentially means the same thing. Accept what you wrote is very misleading.
 
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