It's the pressure of competition. If there's enough demand then it becomes a factor. Some sp's may feel that saying no is equal to loosing customers.
Danger of bbfs
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I would never but aren’t there drugs like prep and pep acailable to the public to prevent the spread of anything serious.
Absolutely agree, this is why people should be accountable for their own well being.
Only HIV for those. The rest you're raw dogging against still sucks (chlamydia, syphilis, gonorrhea, etc).
Thought syphilis was wiped out in the first world. Only an issue if I go on vacation far away. But yeah, not in a hurry to get chlamydia or anything ending in "rhea".
Those are all curable with meds although there has been cases for a super gonorrhea that is incurable going around
Can add Hep c to the list, though this is now curable. Hpv, hsv, mpox, bunch of others without true cures (though I believe they are self limiting infections)
Kinda a tangent, but condoms are only 87-98% effective.
That's not great, especially if you roll the dice enough times.
The two sps I've spoken to about this said they use a secondary form of contraception and get regular testing because of this very reason.
I get tested every three months now myself. You may just never know otherwise
Kinda a tangent, but condoms are only 87-98% effective.
That's not great, especially if you roll the dice enough times.
The two sps I've spoken to about this said they use a secondary form of contraception and get regular testing because of this very reason.
I get tested every three months now myself. You may just never know otherwise
I'm not saying it's a death sentence, I'm saying getting them sucks and that's what you're risking against catching. If you're sharing a doctor with family members or just can't be so cavalier about catching something else then your risk profile is different.
These drugs don't work 100 percent and they have side effects. Not all workers want to take it. I've been on prep for a year now, and I have had a few side effects from it, some that really bother me and are making me consider to stop. We don't get on these drugs to offer BBFs, at least for me it's prevention, ''just in case''. You can also by the way get someone pregnant that way, if you didn't know already lol
And yes there is a demand for it, targeting new girls specifically, who might be more naive and impulsive, particularly if they need money. I got way more requests for this when I first started, often clients would ask in person too. Thankfully I haven't had anyone ask me for it over text in over 6 months.
I have heard of SP offering it for an extra fee but from what I understand they are low volume and more in the high end category with an exclusive client base... I find that less concerning than someone who is offering it often and sees a lot of clients.
At an agency or spa maybe a girl is so drunk or high or both that she may not be fully "all there" so to speak, I have seen that before. Aside from that I don't know who and I have no proof but I've heard there are girls who are popular because they offer pussy slides I guess but I suspect they aren't aware of the risks and their clients just don't care and encourage it.
Sure they are curable, but do you really want to spread these? There's a reason why a lot of clients are scared of seeing girls who offer BBFs. It's much easier to get ANY sti with bareback penetration, and if someone offers that on a regular basis, they could get an infection from her (through daty or accidental contact with fluids) and pass it to another provider or their wife or girlfriend.
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Speaking of. 2 days ago, someone using a textapp straight up messaged me at midnight asking me if I was recovering from an STI because he saw I mentioned healing on X. I told him that if I had one, I would not announce it on X which is an advertising platform lol and he started ranting about how irresponsible girls like me are, and that I would be dishonest if I didn't disclose my STI to the general public if I had one. It was really frustrating because I take a lot of precautious, and I think I am pretty honest.
He did some research and apparently genital herpes outbreaks can last up to 4 weeks (which is the amount of time I had to take off for gfe specifically). My point is that I also didn't know this, and that is another incurable STI.
It's confusing to me why people are willing to take these risks. I understand that a girl who's about to get evicted and has no money for food might feel under pressure, but clients specifically.. The ''it won't matter anymore because I'm old now'' I suspect is a big reason why some clients just go for it.. otherwise there is no explanation.. It seems like compulsive behavior, and people who have highly narcissistic personalities think nothing will ever happen to them even if they take big risks
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I don't understand why anyone would take such a big risk, honestly. I abhor those who provide it, and can also vouch when I started that this was asked of me frequently just like Luna and countless others. I always stood my ground, said no and applied threatening techniques. Clients who ask this and pressure for this are nothing but parasites.
What also concerned me and I learned of this recently, some men and women have a "bug chasing" fetish. They want to obtain an incurable disease like HIV and spread it, yes people like this exist, and may be targeting sex workers and others to try and get it, and apply pressure for unprotected sex( see not all fetishes are normal and need to be shamed accordingly.) Also, something could be said for the intelligence of someone asking for unprotected bareback sex, clearly they are not the brightest individuals and don't care about the implications. All in all people need to be accountable. Montreal is the city currently with the highest rates of STDs/STIs in Canada, followed by Winnipeg then Toronto as per my testing nurse just recently.
I have two civilian friends that have infrequent unprotected sex here and there, one of them recently got gonorrhea and the other syphilis from tinder/bumble and believing the male version of ( I'm clean) hookups. Yes they are curable but no one wants to spend time on antibiotics because they can lower your immune system, make you feel lethargic etc. I have seen 1000s I would say of men and knock on wood nothing all protected. So all it takes to catch something is to have infrequent unprotected sex as well. That once in a blue moon unprotected sex can get you something incurable. Not to mention people who take coke frequently and other hard drugs are at particular risk.
The only safe way to obtain bareback sex is to stay monogamous and make sure that you and your partner get tested beforehand and stay monogamous to each other.
What also concerned me and I learned of this recently, some men and women have a "bug chasing" fetish. They want to obtain an incurable disease like HIV and spread it, yes people like this exist, and may be targeting sex workers and others to try and get it, and apply pressure for unprotected sex( see not all fetishes are normal and need to be shamed accordingly.) Also, something could be said for the intelligence of someone asking for unprotected bareback sex, clearly they are not the brightest individuals and don't care about the implications. All in all people need to be accountable. Montreal is the city currently with the highest rates of STDs/STIs in Canada, followed by Winnipeg then Toronto as per my testing nurse just recently.
I have two civilian friends that have infrequent unprotected sex here and there, one of them recently got gonorrhea and the other syphilis from tinder/bumble and believing the male version of ( I'm clean) hookups. Yes they are curable but no one wants to spend time on antibiotics because they can lower your immune system, make you feel lethargic etc. I have seen 1000s I would say of men and knock on wood nothing all protected. So all it takes to catch something is to have infrequent unprotected sex as well. That once in a blue moon unprotected sex can get you something incurable. Not to mention people who take coke frequently and other hard drugs are at particular risk.
The only safe way to obtain bareback sex is to stay monogamous and make sure that you and your partner get tested beforehand and stay monogamous to each other.
This discussion has Bill Gates and Jeffrey Epstein energy.
"Who cares if I get an infection from raw dogging those Russian hookers?! I'll just ask their shady pimp for antibiotics and then secretly give them to my wife without her knowledge."
One important thing that people often forget is that a lot of mongers are married or in other long-term relationships. The more bbfs happens, the more diseases are spreading around, the higher the risk of your life partner being exposed to that through you, the less customers for all agencies and all girls in the long run because the risk of exposure and the partner funding out is just getting too high.
Truly an excellent post from @Wearethenight . Clearly you have the experience and you know what you are talking about. Unfortunately, as is often the case in public health, the people who would benefit the most from this message are also the least likely to be receptive to it. As you allude to, and also from my research, they are more likely to be less intelligent, but perhaps more importantly, highly impulsive and also narcissistic.
So you are implying that, clients looking for bbfs are more likely to be a certain age and beyond ! That is quite the assomption! I would be curious to know how you can come to such a conclusion!
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I think she has some real life experiences
We can but hope for the likes of us to be spoken of in the same context as Gates & Epstein, it would imply that we have somehow hoisted ourselves among the ranks of the top 1%. As for me personally, I would rather remain a relatively anonymous, working class slob than rub shoulders with the aforementioned, I'm just weird like that.
Dude I was referring to what this guy said LOL and also it was just an example. what I meant is that there's a specific way of thinking, there's always going to be an excuse to take risks, if you see what i mean. notice how the guy who made that comment is under 50. I also know he was joking btw, but some people really do think that way.
I wasn't implying older men are more likely to ask for it.. but now that you mention it, it's true that guys of a certain generation often talk to me about how ''they are not used to condoms'' and hint at how they would prefer to not use any. That is a generalization tho and I wasn't even thinking about that. I feel like this is off topic and no matter what I say it's going to cause problems.
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