listen to me as what im saying , not as something to analyze or decode.
I won’t try to pick apart your words or turn them into a pattern—I’ll just meet you where you are, and respond in a way that actually feels human.
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I won’t try to pick apart your words or turn them into a pattern—I’ll just meet you where you are, and respond in a way that actually feels human.
I get it but i feel like us men are programmed to think moaning means enjoying and silence means shes just not turned on. Maybe its porn to blame or maybe the guys who think that way had a ex girlfriend who was a fantastic actress.Why do you want to know that? Personally I don't think it really matters for the client. Some fake, some don't. A lot of clients will complain about us not being vocal in reviews or will ask us constantly if we enjoy it if we're not putting on a show, it can put pressure to "act". But being vocal or not doesn't have anything to do with how much we're enjoying it.
This is total bullshit.
There are clients that can form a friendship with an escort and are quite capable of having a dual relationship and not overstep boundaries and take advantage of each other.
Some of us actually think women are amazing and have gotten nothing but love and affection from them and treat them accordingly.
You can be a client when sex is involved and a friend when it is not.
You don’t ” go there” as a client, it evolves naturally over a long period of time and if it doesn’t it doesn’t it is very rare but can be amazing when it does.
I will always be there for the ladies I consider as a friend and it has nothing to do with wanting to have something for free, I can well afford whatever I need. there is never any pressure involved.
They are women like any other and they do have friends outside the sex world and sometimes even inside.
Please read it again and try to understand the meaning of the words "expect anything for free". Emphasis on the word "expect".
The only place I expect free stuff is McDonald's, when I use my points with the app.
If a provider decides to give me anything or any time for free, it sure wasn't "expected" on my end. Nor would I even ask.
If you need a dictionary, let me know.
Now you are just playing with words lol.
BTW your points at McDonald’s are not free. Did you expect it to be?
Yes, I expect my points when I go to McDonald's. Because they advertise it will be provided if I make a purchase.
Sex workers don't advertise free time in their ads if you visit them enough. If some want to give it to you our out of the kindness of their heart, good for you. Some do want to hang out if they know you and like you enough.
But never demand it or expect it.
That's my point.
So we agree McDonald’s points are not free they are a reward for something purchased.
We also agree on the rest.
Experiences with an SP are unique to each individual.
Some of them make amazing friends.
Friendship cannot be demanded, it is one of the few things that can only be earned and given.
That was my point.
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There is a big difference between friendship and being on friendly terms with your service provider.
Hypothetically, If my favorite service provider, whom I've been on friendly terms with for years, retires, and still calls me for coffee, then yes it's friendship because there's no sex or money involved anymore.
Yes, you can have fondness between the two as a client and a provider. We are humans and we want that connection.
In the interim, it's friendly terms between client and provider. It might look the same, but it's not. It shouldn't be confused as such.
Actually it can be a bit more complicated than that but yes we are humans and humans are capable of many different kind of relationships.
The thing to remember is that SP are women first and they have the same dreams and hopes as other women they just earn their living as sex workers.
There is no confusion when both parties want the same thing.
6’ for 216lbs is not exactly overweight, unless you are totally out of shape and even then I cant really see too much fat accumulation.
5'9" and 205 lbs is probably light weight compared to some guys here.
If you meet an SP, the important is to be clean and respectful.
Overweight is the definition you'll find for with just the ratio height and weight (BMI) anywhere.
As per visible fat accumulation, I'm well endowed waist wise lol
Dad bod maxxing
It's definitely porn. I also think if men see a lot of SP and not a lot of civilian women particularly if they ask for certain types of experiences and develop unrealistic expectations. But that doesn't mean everyone is faking if they're loud.
There's genuine friendship and positive feelings between many of my clients and I. I would describe it as a situational friendship. I can't tell my clients about a lot of things, so there are limits. I have offered friendship to clients before, but the condition would be as you're saying, that we don't see each other as client and provider anymore. I remained good friends with 2 ex clients to this day. They don't live in Canada so the stakes aren't as high.
Otherwise I regret having made that offer because the clients either felt rejected, or we started having conflicts about our views of the industry among other things... And honestly, remaining friends while they still booked providers seemed risky for reasons of privacy. So, in the last year or two, I decided to remove that possibility entirely.
Even if a client doesn't have bad intentions, he could still reveal compromising information to another person.. I've told some personal things to clients I liked and I know it was repeated to others. Maybe when I am close to retiring or semi retired, this will change. But I don't think I could ever become real friends with someone who sees himself as a hobbyist, for the sake of colleagues who are still active and new SP. Nothing against those guys but I know information I share could be misused
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How someone experiences pleasure and how they choose to express it. Those aren’t always the same.
Some people do orgasm and barely make a sound—it’s not uncommon. Others are naturally more vocal.
Sometimes SPs are aware there are guest in the next hotel room can hear whats going on So maybe the Sp feels good during sex and wants to loudly moan but don’t and It’s less about rejecting you and more about her not feeling fully relaxed in the environment.
So the way forward isn’t trying to decode signals during sex
Just ask her.
That opens the door for her to say what she actually feels—maybe she is orgasming but just isn’t vocal, or maybe something’s holding her back.
The goal isn’t to make her louder or make yourself quieter. It’s getting to a place where neither of you feels like you have to perform or suppress anything important.
I’m certainly more expressive when I’m comfortable in a private setting
While some might like risky sex and expose themselves to unwanted attention.
Some people do orgasm and barely make a sound—it’s not uncommon. Others are naturally more vocal.
Sometimes SPs are aware there are guest in the next hotel room can hear whats going on So maybe the Sp feels good during sex and wants to loudly moan but don’t and It’s less about rejecting you and more about her not feeling fully relaxed in the environment.
So the way forward isn’t trying to decode signals during sex
Just ask her.
That opens the door for her to say what she actually feels—maybe she is orgasming but just isn’t vocal, or maybe something’s holding her back.
The goal isn’t to make her louder or make yourself quieter. It’s getting to a place where neither of you feels like you have to perform or suppress anything important.
I’m certainly more expressive when I’m comfortable in a private setting
While some might like risky sex and expose themselves to unwanted attention.
I wasn’t always proud of how I handled my needs.
Before I got married, sex was easy for me. If I wanted it, I knew where to go. There was no waiting, no negotiation, no vulnerability. It was simple, controlled, and always available. At the time, it felt like freedom.
When I got married, I told myself things would change. And in some ways, they did. I wasn’t living that same life anymore. I wasn’t out there as much, and I tried to settle into what I thought a committed relationship should look like.
But the truth is, something in me didn’t just switch off.
I still had a strong sex drive. I still wanted things—certain experiences, certain sexual acts—that I wasn’t getting at home. And instead of really facing that, instead of fully opening up about it or working through it, I took the easier path sometimes. Not as much as before, but enough that I can’t sit here and pretend I was a saint.
Part of it wasn’t just about sex. It was the simplicity of it. The certainty. The fact that I didn’t have to explain myself, didn’t have to risk rejection, didn’t have to feel exposed. I could just get what I wanted and leave.
Because while I was looking for fulfillment in those moments, I was also creating distance in the place that actually mattered—my marriage. Instead of building something deeper, I was avoiding the harder conversations, the uncomfortable truths.
Looking back, I can see that it wasn’t just about desire. It was about how I chose to deal with it. I wanted connection, but I also wanted control. And those two things don’t always live in the same place.
Now I’m left having to be honest—with myself more than anyone else—about what I’ve done, what I’ve avoided, and what kind of man I actually want to be going forward.
1. My thinking is that the board is the only place where you can share thoughts and discussions with others anonymously, who share with you this particular aspect of their lives, meeting sex workers. I wouldn't share my sexuality, and the fact that escorts have been part of it, with friends and family. I wouldn't even tell my best friend this private aspect of my life. This forum is a place to discuss.
However, the board has obviously a sesspool of very misogynistic and disrespectful members. But, If you can can tune out the negative, you might still find an outlet to reflect on your actions, beliefs, and attitudes with people in the same boat.
2. I don't have an answer for this. Entertainment? Possibly envy (watching the thread of a provider you won't be able to afford). Sometimes you live vicariously through the reviews of others. Some just like to peep.
1. I'm chronically online. In my case, I was an introvert with not much friends and was staying mostly at home in my early age. Since the apparition of Internet in the late 1990s, it was life changing for me and it became my world up until now. I've grown up with all forms of online platforms like emails, IRC, MSN, ICQ, online forums, personal online pages.
2. Not applicable in my case
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