I get it but i feel like us men are programmed to think moaning means enjoying and silence means shes just not turned on. Maybe its porn to blame or maybe the guys who think that way had a ex girlfriend who was a fantastic actress.
It's definitely porn. I also think if men see a lot of SP and not a lot of civilian women particularly if they ask for certain types of experiences and develop unrealistic expectations. But that doesn't mean everyone is faking if they're loud.
There is a big difference between friendship and being on friendly terms with your service provider.
Hypothetically, If my favorite service provider, whom I've been on friendly terms with for years, retires, and still calls me for coffee, then yes it's friendship because there's no sex or money involved anymore.
Yes, you can have fondness between the two as a client and a provider. We are humans and we want that connection.
In the interim, it's friendly terms between client and provider. It might look the same, but it's not. It shouldn't be confused as such.
There's genuine friendship and positive feelings between many of my clients and I. I would describe it as a situational friendship. I can't tell my clients about a lot of things, so there are limits. I have offered friendship to clients before, but the condition would be as you're saying, that we don't see each other as client and provider anymore. I remained good friends with 2 ex clients to this day. They don't live in Canada so the stakes aren't as high.
Otherwise I regret having made that offer because the clients either felt rejected, or we started having conflicts about our views of the industry among other things... And honestly, remaining friends while they still booked providers seemed risky for reasons of privacy. So, in the last year or two, I decided to remove that possibility entirely.
Even if a client doesn't have bad intentions, he could still reveal compromising information to another person.. I've told some personal things to clients I liked and I know it was repeated to others. Maybe when I am close to retiring or semi retired, this will change. But I don't think I could ever become real friends with someone who sees himself as a hobbyist, for the sake of colleagues who are still active and new SP. Nothing against those guys but I know information I share could be misused