There is no legal context lol. Its illegal for us to buy, its legal for them to sell. By law thats it. But if no buyer then there is no seller ...:/. Its not rocket science. Races/colors/weight/age has nothing to do with it.
How Can an Escort Tell your Ethnicity?
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Huh what? Alors oui elles peuvent refuser les clients. C'est simplement que la majorité des femmes qui choisissent ce métié savent qu'elle seront pas booker par Robert Pattinson...
Oui il peux y avoir des clients beau bonomes mais la majorité sera des hommes seules qui cherche un peu d'amour. Alors oui devenir escorte en esperant avoir que des clients "hot" c'est irrealiste.
Les escortes comprennent qui sera leur clientels et regarde surtout que le client soit gentil, propre et la respecte. C'est un boulot. Elles vendent du reve.
En lisant ton poste je note autant une condescendance malsaine sur les clients que les femmes qui ce devouent a ce metier et rendent notre vie plus agreable.
C'est clair que ce métier est pas fait pour toi mademoiselle. Mais tu peux etre sugar baby ou masseusse...
No, we cannot completely remove the legal aspect for the SP, as it is applicable under Canadian law.
To make it short:
The Protection of Communities and Exploited Persons Act (2014) does not explicitly state that a sex worker can refuse any client for any personal reason.
This right arises implicitly from a fundamental principle of Canadian law: the requirement of free and informed consent in any situation involving the body or sexuality.
Legal basis for the right to refuse a client
Criminal Code, section 273.1 → defines sexual consent as “the voluntary agreement to engage in the sexual activity in question.”
Therefore, there is no obligation to accept a client, for any reason whatsoever.
Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, section 7 → protects the right to life, liberty, and security of the person, including control over one’s own body.
Civil and commercial law → There is no enforceable sexual contract; a client cannot demand the service, and the refusal is always valid.
In summary: The right to refuse any client is based on the principle of free consent, not on an explicit clause in the 2014 Act.
It is likely for this reason that the founders of MERB wisely consulted legal opinions when drafting Forum Rule 21.
For the client, the thread’s question is:
“How Can an Escort Tell Your Ethnicity?”
Tes paroles me font pleurer lorsque tu prétends que ce métier n’est pas fait pour moi. Depuis mon enfance, j’ai toujours nourri le rêve de devenir escort et d’apporter du bonheur aux hommes. Jamais je ne me laisserai décourager par des personnes comme toi. Un jour, je réaliserai pleinement mon rêve, et j’espère même remporter le trophée de la meilleure escort de l’année 2025. À moi ces dicks et tous ces hommes !
Le point était de dire que dans des cas le refus n'est pas une option d'un point de vue financier et pas nécessairement parce que le client ne convient pas.
Certaines peuvent se permettre d'être plus sélectives d'autres non.
I don't understand the legal context either. Hypothetical situation #1: an escort shows up at a client's hotel room. Upon the client opening the door, the escort observes that he is an Indian client, a group she doesn't service. She informs the client, bluntly, "sorry, but I do not service Indian clients." She then walks out, leaving the client holding his boner.
Can he sue for illegal discrimination? Of course not, because he was engaged in an illegal activity. There is no discrimination. Under the law, the transaction is "void ab initio"- void from inception due to illegality. Therefore, no illegal discrimination could occur. At most it was non--actionable prejudice against an ethnicity.
Hypothetical situation #2: an escort shows up at client's hotel room. She has advertised to the client her rate is $300 per hour. The client hands the escort $300. She says to the client, "thank you. I just need to go downstairs and pay the driver." She doesn't come back.
Let's assume the client knows the escort's full name and address. Can he bring a small claims lawsuit against her, for breach of contract?
Answer: No. This lawsuit would be dismissed by any Judge in any court of competent jurisdiction in the USA or Canada. Anyone who has studied law and taken a course in contracts knows that the consideration for a contract cannot be meretricious or for services not allowed under the law. There is no contract and the $300 may not be returned, nor the contract enforced, on a breach of contract theory.
Can the client pursue a misdemeanor theft charge with the police?
On these same facts in the USA, under no circumstances as you would be admitting to a misdemeanor in order to pursue a misdemeanor charge which, in all likelihood, would not be charged. More likely is that the client would be charged if he foolishly pursued this with the police.
On these same facts in Montreal, I suspect the same analysis would apply.
So bringing up laws and legal rights is all bullshit because none of it is enforceable in Court. If it's not enforceable in Court it's not only bullshit, but bullshit in its purest and most unadulterated form. It's Super Bullshit.
By the way, I have an actual law degree and I have passed the bar in 3 US jurisdictions. You would be surprised that questions like the ones I posted above make their way onto law school exams (contracts and criminal law) and in some form on bar exams as well. Law school professors try to trick you into allowing yourself to think like a civilian instead of a lawyer. That's what separates the lawyers from the civilians in the tested group.
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The question in the thread “How Can an Escort Tell Your Ethnicity?”
shifted toward Canadian law following the comment by:
Because some clients believe that since it’s illegal, they can be discriminated against.
However, even if it were legal, sex providers would still have the right to choose and could lawfully refuse clients.
This right arises implicitly from a fundamental principle of Canadian law: the requirement of free and informed consent in any situation involving the body or sexuality.
Legal basis for the right to refuse a client
Criminal Code, section 273.1 → defines sexual consent as “the voluntary agreement to engage in the sexual activity in question.”
Therefore, there is no obligation to accept a client, for any reason whatsoever.
Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, section 7 → protects the right to life, liberty, and security of the person, including the right to control one’s own body.
This is likely why the founders of MERB wisely drafted Rule 21 of our forum regulations.
And I believe, as a lawyer, you would agree that a small reminder of women’s rights never hurts anyone.
shifted toward Canadian law following the comment by:
Because some clients believe that since it’s illegal, they can be discriminated against.
However, even if it were legal, sex providers would still have the right to choose and could lawfully refuse clients.
This right arises implicitly from a fundamental principle of Canadian law: the requirement of free and informed consent in any situation involving the body or sexuality.
Legal basis for the right to refuse a client
Criminal Code, section 273.1 → defines sexual consent as “the voluntary agreement to engage in the sexual activity in question.”
Therefore, there is no obligation to accept a client, for any reason whatsoever.
Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, section 7 → protects the right to life, liberty, and security of the person, including the right to control one’s own body.
This is likely why the founders of MERB wisely drafted Rule 21 of our forum regulations.
And I believe, as a lawyer, you would agree that a small reminder of women’s rights never hurts anyone.
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You are quoting nonsense.
It is illegal for a client to pay an escort for sex period. Therefore she is not legally bound to provide anything especially an illegal act to anybody whether it is discrimination racism or whatever.
I believe EB explained it in better terms in post #47. I believe in simplicity.
Oh really, paying for escort services is illegal in Canada?
I was reacting to your statement about completely excluding the legal aspect for the service provider, as if it didn’t apply.
So, not your claim itself, but it raises an interesting question: can the rights of sex workers be excluded simply because their clients are breaking the law?
No. The rights guaranteed by the Canadian Charter apply to everyone, without exception.
I agree, this law, passed in 2014 by the Conservative government, criminalized clients, created an atmosphere of insecurity, and concretely limited the exercise of sex workers’ rights.
The courts acknowledge that this tension raises important constitutional issues.
Thus, their rights are not excluded in law, but weakened in practice.
Why all the legal jargon nonsense, and why are you complicating things.
Simply put a sex worker can do whatever the hell she wants you cannot hold her legally responsible because you are in fact committing an illegal act by paying her for sex.
She can refuse you for whatever reason she wants and all you will get if you go to the police is arrested for admitting to soliciting a prostitute for sex which is illegal
It doesn’t get simpler than that.
You are free to try it out go and report an escort to the cops that she refused to give you a blow job which you paid good money for because you are Black, Russian, or old, or whatever and see what happens.
The law is on her side which is the stupidest law I have ever seen which allows you to legally sell sex but makes it criminal for the buyer.
This does not help clients or escorts.
Only politicians and lawyers can come up with BS laws like this.
The thread is “How Can an Escort Tell Your Ethnicity?”
Because some clients believe that since it’s illegal, they can be discriminated against.
However, even if it were legal, sex providers would still have the right to choose and could lawfully refuse clients.
So, what you don’t want to hear is that women have rights — not just because it’s illegal and no one would be foolish enough to file a complaint.
I don’t know where you got that from that i don’t want to hear that women have rights.
Quite the opposite, in all my posts I have always said that an escort has the right to refuse you for whatever she wants, it is her body and she can provide service to who ever she chooses.
This is not like going into a supermarket to by bananas.
So basically yes she can refuse you for your ethnicity or anything else she wants and that is the way it should be. Would you agree to have sex with anyone that had the money to pay for it ? I wouldn’t.
The service is litteraly her body, which she is still autonomous and sovereign of. It is already surprising that we even have to discuss about things like that
