Trump’s Announcement on Autism: Vaccines & Tylenol Warning

[Valentina Amante]

the WHO disagrees with trump and rfk (neither of which obvioulsy have no training in this field and therefore are basically just quacks)

WHO statement on autism-related issues

The World Health Organization (WHO) emphasizes that there is currently no conclusive scientific evidence confirming a possible link between autism and use of acetaminophen (also known as paracetamol) during pregnancy.

www.who.int

The WHO isn’t some benevolent health body. It’s an unelected club bankrolled by global elites pushing their agenda on the world. They are funded by governments, corporations, NGOs, and private foundations (Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation - one of the biggest donors).

I’d like to remind everyone also that Bill Gates is not a doctor either. He only wields money and influence.. Unlike Bill, RFK upholds the law and is an advocate for health. He often partners with doctors, researchers, and scientists to build the cases he presents to the public. People are forgetting that he’s the Secretary of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) … it’s his job to get on national TV and inform people about the doctors’ research as his base.


I trust this cat more with my life:

 

[philonius]

I only have two questions and then I'll leave everyone to dig more rabbit holes here:

What will you do when you're really sick or injured? Obv going to a doctor means accepting that medical science is legit and you need to trust the experts with your care and that's antithetical to your worldview re: the medical establishment so...

OR

You DO actually see doctors/medical professionals when necessary so the other question becomes:

By what mechanism do you allow yourself to deny truth in science only to turn around and rely on it the next second when it suits you? Like, what kind of delusional self-importance provides you the ability to pick and choose which medical experts you deem to be liars and con-men and which are to be trusted?

It's all so needlessly confusing to me.

 

[Fradi]

I only have two questions and then I'll leave everyone to dig more rabbit holes here:

What will you do when you're really sick or injured? Obv going to a doctor means accepting that medical science is legit and you need to trust the experts with your care and that's antithetical to your worldview re: the medical establishment so...

OR

You DO actually see doctors/medical professionals when necessary so the other question becomes:

By what mechanism do you allow yourself to deny truth in science only to turn around and rely on it the next second when it suits you? Like, what kind of delusional self-importance provides you the ability to pick and choose which medical experts you deem to be liars and con-men and which are to be trusted?

It's all so needlessly confusing to me.

I see doctors and I take medication they have prescribed however that doesn’t mean I don’t read up on the medication they prescribe and that I don’t have a discussion with my doctor about it. I have refused to take some medication because the potential side effects and the benefits were not to my liking and my doctor prescribed something else instead.

I also don’t accept as gospel one doctor’s diagnosis on something serious either and ask for a second and third opinion.
Science and doctors have increased peoples life expectancy but it is not infallible and doctors are not all equally qualified or good so it makes perfect sense to enquire and discuss vaccinations and medications and not to accept things at face value.

There have been many horror stories of drugs harmful effects over the years so being well informed and questioning things makes sense.

 

[Valentina Amante]

I only have two questions and then I'll leave everyone to dig more rabbit holes here:

What will you do when you're really sick or injured? Obv going to a doctor means accepting that medical science is legit and you need to trust the experts with your care and that's antithetical to your worldview re: the medical establishment so...

OR

You DO actually see doctors/medical professionals when necessary so the other question becomes:

By what mechanism do you allow yourself to deny truth in science only to turn around and rely on it the next second when it suits you? Like, what kind of delusional self-importance provides you the ability to pick and choose which medical experts you deem to be liars and con-men and which are to be trusted?

It's all so needlessly confusing to me.

There’s a big difference between being anti-science and being anti-institutional. They’re not the same - though in recent years, that distinction has been deliberately blurred by the same 3 letter orgs that have hijacked Pharma and the public trust.

I’m not against medical science. I’m against putting blind trust in systems that have repeatedly proven they prioritize profit, politics, and control over truth, transparency, or accountability. We’re talking billions in lawsuits, dead whistleblowers, and thousands of real stories from families you’ll never see on legacy / corporate-funded media because those media outlets work hand-in-hand with the very institutions that often have the public’s worst interests at heart.

When I am sick or injured I use discernment - something that used to be a cornerstone of liberal thinking before it got replaced by blind faith in “experts”. I ask questions. I do my own research. I get second opinions. I opt out of treatments that seem rushed, politicized, or pushed by pharmaceutical giants with a well-documented history of fraud / corruption.

Yes, I’ll see a doctor when I need to. But no, I’m not going to pretend that public health officials or government-funded scientists are infallible truth-tellers and have our best interests at heart.

This isn’t denialism. It’s critical thinking. It’s the same mindset that questions endless wars, Big Tech censorship, pharmaceutical lobbying, and unchecked government overreach.

So to answer your question: I’m not denying truth. I’m denying the idea that truth is whatever powerful people say it is.

That used to be the heart of liberalism. Now they call it far-right extremism.

 

[Valentina Amante]

I see doctors and I take medication they have prescribed however that doesn’t mean I don’t read up on the medication they prescribe and that I don’t have a discussion with my doctor about it. I have refused to take some medication because the potential side effects and the benefits were not to my liking and my doctor prescribed something else instead.

I also don’t accept as gospel one doctor’s diagnosis on something serious either and ask for a second and third opinion.
Science and doctors have increased peoples life expectancy but it is not infallible and doctors are not all equally qualified or good so it makes perfect sense to enquire and discuss vaccinations and medications and not to accept things at face value.

There have been many horror stories of drugs harmful effects over the years so being well informed and questioning things makes sense.

This!! My mom has refused certain treatments after researching the side effects and drug interactions of various medications. She’s absolutely allowed to decline, and she let our family doctor (who we both really love) know. We trust her, but even great doctors don’t always catch everything. It’s on us to stay informed and ask questions. Theres nothing wrong with that!

 

[philonius]

Ok, so it's the second one. You do see them but pick and choose which advice to take because your 'research' is the same as their decade+ of education, training, and first-hand experience.

That's actually infinitely more frightening. We are well and truly fucked.

 

[Valentina Amante]

Ok, so it's the second one. You do see them but pick and choose which advice to take because your 'research' is the same as their decade+ of education, training, and first-hand experience.

That's actually infinitely more frightening. We are well and truly fucked.

Here we go. The classic “your research isn’t real because it’s not my approved research” spiel. It’s funny how the people screaming “trust the experts” suddenly forget that there are other experts, with decades of equally valid research, whose work just doesn’t line up with their preferred narrative or isn’t shown on mainstream sources. LOL.

And of course, this kind of response from you couldn’t be any more surprising: dismiss, belittle, condescend. Because actually engaging with someone’s beliefs or other info would require stepping outside the echo chamber for 5 seconds - so wtf are you even contributing and doing here really? You come here and ask a question to just be an asshole about it and show how one sided you truly are again. Obviously you don’t have any friends - you resort to an escort board discussion to feel part of a club. Maybe get a life honestly. Mais nonnnnnn. Chronically online 24/7. And keyboard warrioring away on every. Single. Topic you don’t find to your liking.

I’ll keep questioning every side, because if history’s taught us anything, it’s that blind obedience to the “experts” is usually how shit hits the fan.

Keep trusting daddy gov, get boosted and triple mask hahahaha. That’s what’s actually terrifying.

 

[Valentina Amante]

Also Phil - stop @ ing me and stay out of my threads. You've made it crystal clear in other threads that you're not interested in real discussion - you’re just here to inflate your ego / hear yourself talk and be condescending. Do us all a favour and stop wasting everyone's time. Honestly anything, including watching paint dry, would be more productive than you hijacking every conversation or thread to fuel your own ego.

Because I’m thoughtful, I put together a list of hobbies that best suits your energy:

- basket weaving
- disc golf
- competitive LARPing
- extreme couponing
- starting arguments at the park with squirrels
- ironing socks for stress relief
- being the main character in the comments on reddit (it’s very much your cup of tea on that app! who knows? maybe you can make internet friends there!)
- aggressively moderating Wikipedia edits
- paper clip organizing

Have fun!

 

[philonius]

Also Phil - stop @ ing me and stay out of my threads. You've made it crystal clear in other threads that you're not interested in real discussion - you’re just here to inflate your ego / hear yourself talk and be condescending. Do us all a favour and stop wasting everyone's time. Honestly anything, including watching paint dry, would be more productive than you hijacking every conversation or thread to fuel your own ego.

For reference, I've never @ you in my life. You're getting notifications bc I reply, but the 'we're just discussing stuff' advocate wants only their type of discussion? Got it.

Also, to note, I've never called you names once, but I can't expect the same in return, so I don't ask for it. Nor have I told you how to spend your time, since you're here quite a bit yourself, but that's also none of my concern. You're like to spout discredited nonsense and I like to push back against discredited nonsense, so we're at an impasse it seems.

As for 'research,' it too is a learned skill, and reposting memes you found on social media ain't it. You have to know what you're talking about when you're doing research, and know where to do it, and you think you can do it with the same proficiency as a trained professional. That's the hubris I spoke of. Question all you like but don't pretend you're on their level, it's insulting. I have a background in science and I'm not even that full of myself.

 

[Valentina Amante]

For reference, I've never @ you in my life. You're getting notifications bc I reply, but the 'we're just discussing stuff' advocate wants only their type of discussion? Got it.

Also, to note, I've never called you names once, but I can't expect the same in return, so I don't ask for it. Nor have I told you how to spend your time, since you're here quite a bit yourself, but that's also none of my concern. You're like to spout discredited nonsense and I like to push back against discredited nonsense, so we're at an impasse it seems.

As for 'research,' it too is a learned skill, and reposting memes you found on social media ain't it. You have to know what you're talking about when you're doing research, and know where to do it, and you think you can do it with the same proficiency as a trained professional. That's the hubris I spoke of. Question all you like but don't pretend you're on their level, it's insulting. I have a background in science and I'm not even that full of myself.

You keep replying and keep playing dumb. I’m no longer interacting with you or reading the shit you say anymore. You should do the same. Stow the holier than thou attitude and go do something else better with your time and mine.

 

[philonius]

Fine, but stop badmouthing the professional couponers. A penny saved is a penny earned.

mod: thread locked - too much nonsensical bickering once again