Nancy Pelosi's husband was violently assaulted. According to reports, the perpetrator is apparently some rightwing fool who believes the lies and conspiracy theories constantly spouted by the Republican Party and its supporters and enablers. Not exactly a surprise. After all, many of these loonies still believe the former traitor-in-chief's debunked lies about the election and all the other BS he and his cultists constantly spew.
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The perpetrator told that he was waiting for Nancy Pelosi.
The Trump supporters will probably tell that he wanted to make love to her !
Trump should be held responsible for every crime commited against Democrat politicians !
The closest I can get to a lazy "Both Sides" argument is there have definitely been a few Democratic leaning supporters that have committed or attempted to commit political violence. The guy that shot Steve Scalise at a Congressional baseball game a few years ago was a Bernie supporter. The guy that went to Kavanaugh's house with intent to kill earlier this year was motivated because of the impending overturning of abortion rights (incidentally, he also called 911 on himself so make what you will of that).
But in between the number of politically violent rhetoric and actual committed acts, it's not even close which side leads in this shameful category.
For violent rhetoric examples:
- when Jesse Watters thought the only way to describe ousting Dr Fauci was to say "Now you go in for the kill shot. The kill shot? With an ambush? Deadly. Because he doesn't see it coming"
-or when DeSantis said again of Fauci “I’m just sick of seeing him! I know he says he’s gonna retire—someone needs to grab that little elf and chuck him across the Potomac," a statement that drew cheers from his audience
-or when the only way Sarah Palin thought to visually represent vulnerable districts was to use the crosshair targets. (Note that I'm not blaming Sarah Palin for Gabby Gifford's shooting. I'm merely lamenting the fact that she chose a visual effect that is synonymous with guns when practically a dot, star, diamond etc would have conveyed the exact same message)
Just from the last few years alone in acts committed (so as to not be exhausting because there are far more):
-this Pelosi attacker
-the guy who wisely but also inadvertently took himself out of the gene pool by approaching an Ohio FBI office with a gun because they dared to enforce the law against his orange idol
-the guy who mailed pipe bombs to prominent Democrats
-the guy who killed several at a Buffalo grocery store because of Replacement Theory
(and on and on)
It's not particularly surprising that Republicans are more likely to commit political violence. If you're constantly bathed in belligerent rhetoric not just from the media you consume but executive-level leaders like DeSantis and Trump who should speak more responsibly, the subtle (or not so subtle) suggestions and desensitization to them will ultimately lead to someone acting out violently.
But in between the number of politically violent rhetoric and actual committed acts, it's not even close which side leads in this shameful category.
For violent rhetoric examples:
- when Jesse Watters thought the only way to describe ousting Dr Fauci was to say "Now you go in for the kill shot. The kill shot? With an ambush? Deadly. Because he doesn't see it coming"
-or when DeSantis said again of Fauci “I’m just sick of seeing him! I know he says he’s gonna retire—someone needs to grab that little elf and chuck him across the Potomac," a statement that drew cheers from his audience
-or when the only way Sarah Palin thought to visually represent vulnerable districts was to use the crosshair targets. (Note that I'm not blaming Sarah Palin for Gabby Gifford's shooting. I'm merely lamenting the fact that she chose a visual effect that is synonymous with guns when practically a dot, star, diamond etc would have conveyed the exact same message)
Just from the last few years alone in acts committed (so as to not be exhausting because there are far more):
-this Pelosi attacker
-the guy who wisely but also inadvertently took himself out of the gene pool by approaching an Ohio FBI office with a gun because they dared to enforce the law against his orange idol
-the guy who mailed pipe bombs to prominent Democrats
-the guy who killed several at a Buffalo grocery store because of Replacement Theory
(and on and on)
It's not particularly surprising that Republicans are more likely to commit political violence. If you're constantly bathed in belligerent rhetoric not just from the media you consume but executive-level leaders like DeSantis and Trump who should speak more responsibly, the subtle (or not so subtle) suggestions and desensitization to them will ultimately lead to someone acting out violently.
Only the GOP Celebrates Political Violence
“Paul Pelosi is the latest to pay a blood price for the cult of violence,” writes @davidfrum. “It won’t stop, but it must stop."
www.theatlantic.com
So apparently David Frum and I share the same mind now haha. He also gave some examples I didn't. I couldn't stand Frum when he was Dumbya's speech writer. But given that most of his opinions since Trump have only been critical of the current Republican Party, it's just another reminder that it's the Republican Party that moved to crazy land.
Now that the Republicans will have the majority at the House, they will try to find reasons to impeach Biden.Only the GOP Celebrates Political Violence
“Paul Pelosi is the latest to pay a blood price for the cult of violence,” writes @davidfrum. “It won’t stop, but it must stop."
So apparently David Frum and I share the same mind now haha. He also gave some examples I didn't. I couldn't stand Frum when he was Dumbya's speech writer. But given that most of his opinions since Trump have only been critical of the current Republican Party, it's just another reminder that it's the Republican Party that moved to crazy land.
If they don't find valid reasons, I suspect MTG will impeach Biden for using to much toilet paper !
Yeah, their priorities are not the economy, healthcare, affordable housing, tax reform, judicial fairness, reducing gun violence, the environment, or anything else useful. They'd rather use their limited power to sabotage the good things the Democrats are doing, and to attack Fauci and the Bidens because they're butthurt that the world's biggest and stupidest crybaby was impeached twice.
Are the Republican politicians the worst scumbags the world has ever seen? Probably not yet the absolute worst, but if they stay on the path they've been on for the past six years, they'll probably soon be contending for that honor.
And...just a question: How damn stupid are the voters who re-elected Q-Anon types like Boebert and MTG?
Are the Republican politicians the worst scumbags the world has ever seen? Probably not yet the absolute worst, but if they stay on the path they've been on for the past six years, they'll probably soon be contending for that honor.
And...just a question: How damn stupid are the voters who re-elected Q-Anon types like Boebert and MTG?
Yup. She's tried several times already over everything from Hunter Biden to the US selling strategic oil reserves to China. The selling of oil to China from strategic reserves? Oh it was also done while Trump was in office in 2017, with 550,000 barrels sold. But logical consistency is only for thinking people.
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Two more things
- there is some Democratic precedence for MTG's early attempt to impeach Biden. Al Green filed his first attempt to impeach Trump in May 2017 over Trump's firing of James Comey (the one where Trump told NBC's Lester Holt he fired Comey over the "Russia thing"). Al Green was rebuffed by his fellow Democrats. In contrast, MTG hasn't been the only Republican to file impeachment articles against Biden.
- inasmuch as impeachment is an inherently political tool, the reasoning has to have a basis in reality. Reality, as the strategic oil example shows or even Jewish space lasers, is definitely not MTG's strongest suit. She pulls a lot of these stunts to fundraise off her braindead base. So in between untethered from reality and revenge from Trump being impeached twice, at some point MTG's impeachment article will be that Biden used too much toilet paper.
In one of their first press conferences, the House GOP didn't tackle anything of the problems you suggested. What was more pressing than those problems? Hunter Biden!!!
As for answer to your last question, of course the voters in her district aren't bright (uh oh liberal condescension
) but it's worse than that. Not only do they condone (at minimum) MTG's prejudices just like they do with Trump or actively have the same prejudices (at maximum), but a good proportion of the Republican base is now post-policy. So it doesn't matter if the modern Republican party does nothing to help them while Democrats do. Decades of polarization by right wing talk radio like Limbaugh and, of course, Fox News has cast Democrats as enemies.A very concrete example happened in Biden's first year. There was an additional $1400 pandemic-related stimulus check floated by Democrats. MTG's district isn't a rich one; the median household income is about $54,000. But MTG voted against it, as did all Republicans in the Senate. But since Democrats had majorities in both chambers, people in MTG's district got the $1400 anyway. There are countless examples like these, like Republicans who railed against funding infrastructure despite the fact infrastructure funding was for the entire country. Ditto student loan forgiveness that Republicans and their judges are blocking, as if it's only Democrats that go to college.
Beyond her shtick of owning the libs and pleasing her base with impeachment attempts, there isn't a concrete thing she can point to as proof she's improved their lives in the last few years, but none of that stops from her cruising to reelection. It's the perfect dictionary definition of cutting off your own nose to spite your face.
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Boebert's winning margin was razor thin which came as a complete surprise to me. Maybe she won't be so lucky next time around?
Welp, guess we won't be seeing her on onlyfans anytime soon.
Thank goodness too. I don't personally find her attractive at all. I can think of a few women that worked in the Trump administration/Republicans that are fun to look at even if their politics may repel me (Hope Hicks, Alyssa Farah Griffin, Tudor Dixon). Boebert does nothing for me.
Marjorie Taylor Greene got divorced because she was apparently having a affair. Think about the no-taste guy that can get past that Miss Piggy nose of hers, to say nothing of the ugliness in her heart. Standards, who needs 'em?
Paul Pelosi's pain is the result of the failure of the liberal open border policy. The attacker shouldn't have never been here.
If I overstay in Montreal next time I go, is that because I violated my immigration status as someone who had temporary legal access to Canada or is that evidence of Canada's "open" border? Are we talking about parsing simple details or are we doing organic chemistry?
Yes, enforcement of deportation for people who overstay is fair criticism. But as this case clearly illustrates, unless someone who overstayed deals with law enforcement, they are invisible in the country.
Sometimes, as the recent murder of a 12 year old Parisian girl by an Algerian who overstayed shows, even being stopped by customs doesn't mean one is immediately detained. In other words, most countries don't handle this form of illegal immigration well. But it's a huge stretch to call it a consequence of an open border policy when said person was allowed to enter the country at a legal point of entry.
Yes, enforcement of deportation for people who overstay is fair criticism. But as this case clearly illustrates, unless someone who overstayed deals with law enforcement, they are invisible in the country.
Sometimes, as the recent murder of a 12 year old Parisian girl by an Algerian who overstayed shows, even being stopped by customs doesn't mean one is immediately detained. In other words, most countries don't handle this form of illegal immigration well. But it's a huge stretch to call it a consequence of an open border policy when said person was allowed to enter the country at a legal point of entry.
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If ICE was encouraged to do their job this wouldn’t of happened. So this does fall under the liberal open border policy. Instead, we allow illegals to stay in the US when their whereabouts are known instead of shipping them back to their own country to commit crimes.
Anyone here illegally should be processed for deportation. However, you have conveniently ignored that this man was radicalized to act violently by on-line lies and hate. You must be a big fan of Obama because his administration deported more illegals than any other POTUS.
Not conveniently ignored, it had nothing to do with what I was talking about. Had he not illegaly overstayed his visit he would have already been sent back to Canada where he wouldn’t be able to harm innocent Americans like Paul Pelosi. As far as Obama, even he could get it right occasionally.
Another shooting in the US, this time in Colorado, at a gay bar:
www.cnn.com
www.theguardian.com
But if the Colorado attack was enabled by America’s pervasive gun violence problem, it seems to have been prompted by the tenor of rightwing media, both broadcast and online, which over the past years has turned a virulent, conspiratorial and obsessively hateful eye towards the LGBT community.
Egged on by conservative politicians, like Lauren Boebert, social media figures, like Libs of TikTok, and traditional media scions, like Tucker Carlson, conservatives have spent the past months consuming the lie that gay and trans people are “groomers” – that is, perverts and pedophiles who want to molest children, or sterilize them, or confuse them into leading different, wrong and lesser lives. In the face of this supposed harm to the innocent, any vengeance can be justified.
Photos: Mass shooting at LGBTQ club in Colorado | CNN
Five people were killed and at least 19 others were injured during a mass shooting Saturday at an LGBTQ nightclub in Colorado Springs, Colorado.
www.cnn.com
The US right is stoking anti-LGBT hate. This shooting was no surprise | Moira Donegan
What happened in Colorado Springs this weekend was part of a trend of escalating violence targeting gay spaces
www.theguardian.com
But if the Colorado attack was enabled by America’s pervasive gun violence problem, it seems to have been prompted by the tenor of rightwing media, both broadcast and online, which over the past years has turned a virulent, conspiratorial and obsessively hateful eye towards the LGBT community.
Egged on by conservative politicians, like Lauren Boebert, social media figures, like Libs of TikTok, and traditional media scions, like Tucker Carlson, conservatives have spent the past months consuming the lie that gay and trans people are “groomers” – that is, perverts and pedophiles who want to molest children, or sterilize them, or confuse them into leading different, wrong and lesser lives. In the face of this supposed harm to the innocent, any vengeance can be justified.
But it has everything to do with what we should be talking about. The fact that he was in the US illegally has nothing to do with him being radicalized to act violently as the result of hate and disinformation. Have you forgotten that Americans are being radicalized too and killing innocents in places like Colorado Springs, Buffalo, Pittsburgh, Poway, El Paso, Sutherland Springs, etc, etc, etc.
Maybe you "feel" we should be talking about it, but your "feelings" have nothing to do with my posts. If I hurt your "feelings" because i spoke the truth well so be it. And just because he was one of your own you "feel" he must have been radicalized here in the states. The hate and disinformation from the left is a good point, but it doesn't belong here. Maybe you can choose from the many other US bashing threads that Sene has provided for our amusement.
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