Am I changing or is the industry changing?

[LC18]

W hen I first started working as a lady of the night, rates were low, there were so many agencies and everyone was booked and busy. We had a very popular website to advertise that was known in the US and in Canada. I assume this was making things easier for American tourists coming here to meet ladies.

Things were easy, simple and booking same day was the norm. People weren’t really asking for screening because you just didn’t have time. It was the fast food era of escorting. You could call a woman like you’d call a pizza place, in less than an hour, she’d be there.

I remember people contacting me for 15 mins dates. I remember the person managing my ads accepting those calls even though I absolutely hated them.

After BP died, everything changed. Then COVID happened and really confirmed it was a new era. Women are shifting towards online services and never coming back. Agencies still exist but a lot of them are now incall only. Rates? Oh rates, they went up and it seems like it’s the longest discussion ever. Simply never ending…

Booking same day? Almost a thing of the past, even agencies now won’t be able to accommodate your last minute impulse. That girl that you’ve been drooling over for days, she’s most likely going to be busy and there won’t be anyone similar looking to replace her.

Men are now booking us for more than a little quickie and a cig. They want to go on dates with us. I know this is a foreign concept to a lot of you but yes, men do want to take us golfing, dining, travelling and more.

So yes, things are changing whether you like it or not.

I like it, I like fun dates, I like the ability to have a temporary boyfriend without all the negative aspects. I don’t have to cook for anyone, he doesn’t have to find my hair in the shower, we don’t need to have the awkward talk about how we’re going to split the household bills.


What do you like about this new era? No need to say what you don’t like, there’s at least one “it was better before” thread per week. Let’s be positive for once ❤️



TLDR: BP being gone, COVID happening, online services booming and men discovering they can pay for more than a quickie has brought a significant change in the industry. What do you like the most about it?

BP: Popular classified ad website that was raided by the FBI mid 2010s

 

[jmioffe]

Women are shifting towards online services and never coming back. Agencies still exist but a lot of them are now incall only. Rates? Oh rates, they went up and it seems like it’s the longest discussion ever. Simply never ending…

Booking same day? Almost a thing of the past, even agencies now won’t be able to accommodate your last minute impulse. That girl that you’ve been drooling over for days, she’s most likely going to be busy and there won’t be anyone similar looking to replace her.

Men are now booking us for more than a little quickie and a cig. They want to go on dates with us. I know this is a foreign concept to a lot of you but yes, men do want to take us golfing, dining, travelling and more.

So yes, things are changing whether you like it or not.

Signs of a societal change? Sex is less taboo and easier to get. Women are more independent. Fewer people have communities. Everyone else is wrapped up in the egocentrism of their phones. So connection is more valuable.

Me, sex is still hard to get, and I don't do so badly with connection and community (or maybe I need it less) so the previous circumstances were preferable to me.

 

[Cap'tain Fantastic]

What do you like about this new era?

What I really like about this "new era " is that, in fact, it discourages me from booking and, therefore, saving me a lot of money to do something else, like going out and dining with real friends.

 

[Salbandini]

What I really like about this "new era " is that, in fact, it discourages me from booking and, therefore, saving me a lot of money to do something else, like going out and dining with real friends.

Well said .

 

[Lunaseraphim]

I just want to ask a polite and genuine question to the gentlemen here, if you're not pleased with us and with the industry what is keeping you here?

 

[Salbandini]

I just want to ask a polite and genuine question to the gentlemen here, if you're not pleased with us and with the industry what is keeping you here?

Capt fantastic been here awhile. Not sure if hes OG status but He enjoys the interactions with other memebers and quite possibly has made friends through merb. Also theres alot of other topics being discussed about on here except reviews about sps.

dont wanna answer for you captain , but wamted to throw in my two cents . Id like to add This is all an assumption lol

 

[envelopes]

OF ruined it

 

[LeDodo]

I'm kind of new. But I would say that it's the industry that is changing. My guess is that the industry has became more sophisticated compared to before. Democratization of the internet usage has expanded the reach of the service. Building a website is way easier than before. Even the marketing has evolved from simple list of services to an elevated/specific experience.
However what will never change is the human nature and variety of encounter ones will make.

 

[Valentina Amante]

What I really like about this "new era " is that, in fact, it discourages me from booking and, therefore, saving me a lot of money to do something else, like going out and dining with real friends.

Yup. Since it’s not like before - guys don’t even wanna hobby anymore because women advertise themselves as more of an arm candy, prefer social dates and don’t wanna do “the work” lmao. There should be a different section for women like this because guys get turned off (just like the GFE argument about how it’s not GFE anymore) and give up the hobby. No time to sift through who wants to actually work as a sex worker - very time consuming. Women like this shouldn’t advertise being sex workers IMO. It fucks up the business for actual working girls that don’t wanna do social dates or picnics etc.

 

[skarsga]

I am an old man and predisposed towards not liking change.

That said, I have accepted that nothing stays the same forever.

Change is inevitable and comes with good and bad.

To answer your question lc and leave the philosophy behind, I enjoy the more sex positive atmosphere. The scene is much less seedy to me than it was years ago, and I enjoy that too.

nostalgia is great but being stuck in the past is miserable

 

[Lunaseraphim]

Capt fantastic been here awhile. Not sure if hes OG status but He enjoys the interactions with other memebers and quite possibly has made friends through merb. Also theres alot of other topics being discussed about on here except reviews about sps.

dont wanna answer for you captain , but wamted to throw in my two cents . Id like to add This is all an assumption lol

What about you?

 

[CLOUD 500]

I just want to ask a polite and genuine question to the gentlemen here, if you're not pleased with us and with the industry what is keeping you here?

I initially landed on this site for the stripclub section. I was young and started my stripclub venture and was seeking other clubs with mileage. I used agencies from this board from time to time but never consistently, all of my experiences were very good, but the experience started going downhill after covid with one poor experience I had and the others I had were not too memorable post-covid. I got my regulars but wanted some diversity so was asking around looking for a SP from this site. I ended booking a girl from Euphoria, needless to say it was a mixed experience. Not sure if I will use SP from this board in a long while and will stick to my regulars. With the rates as they are, getting a mediocre experience is not for me. With my regulars I am guaranteed a great time.

 

[mauricevachon]

What I really like about this "new era " is that, in fact, it discourages me from booking and, therefore, saving me a lot of money to do something else, like going out and dining with real friends.

Agreed.

I just want to ask a polite and genuine question to the gentlemen here, if you're not pleased with us and with the industry what is keeping you here?

Luna: Many of us have been on this board since before you were born!

FWIW, I'd guess most are pleased with you and LC.
But before covid (2003-2020) agencies that advertised on this board recruited 10-12 new girls at your level each week.

Today, the level and quantity of new recruits is just not there.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

Yup. Since it’s not like before - guys don’t even wanna hobby anymore because women advertise themselves as more of an arm candy, prefer social dates and don’t wanna do “the work” lmao. There should be a different section for women like this because guys get turned off (just like the GFE argument about how it’s not GFE anymore) and give up the hobby. No time to sift through who wants to actually work as a sex worker - very time consuming. Women like this shouldn’t advertise being sex workers IMO. It fucks up the business for actual working girls that don’t wanna do social dates or picnics etc.

Maybe I'm wrong but it seems like you're talking about high end escorts who suck dick just like we do, and they are far from being the norm. It's not because some of us get booked for social dates occasionally that we aren't really working. If you start advertising for these you'll get them, and you'll understand why it's just as much work.

In fact a lot of SP's don't want to offer social time because it's too draining for them. It's not because I have a dinner date one night that later on I'm not sucking someone's dick for 30 mins later or expected msog during a hour booking the next day. Girl this week 4 different guys came in my mouth so far. It's not because I'm advertising social dates that I'm a precious princess who's barely touching her clients lol Also the girls who are using GFE in their ads without actually providing kissing, daty and bbbj are not high end escorts who go on luxurious dates with their clients if I understand things correctly

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I started in the industry in 2022 after Backpage got shut down. I was told by many colleagues that it used to be much easier to get clients and work, they didn't have to have a million social media accounts and they didn't constantly have to advertise on different platforms and invest in branding.. there was a violent crime against an escort committed in Montreal a couple years ago that could have easily been prevented. During the pandemic cases of sexual assault and domestic abuse sky rocketed so it's no surprise people are screening and being cautious. An apartment I was living in 10 years ago was 800$ a month, it was a 5 and a half. Now the rent is probably 3 times higher.. The price of food went up so much just in the past few years. Economic difficulties might explain why there are possibly more scams and bait n switch type of situations.

On a positive note it seems like this job is considered less taboo than it used to be. A lot of men who never considered booking an escort try it now, there's a different type of clientele. I feel like there's a wide range of needs as well... Sometimes clients want the booking to be purely sexual, sometimes they want connection and companionship. I think people are realizing that sex workers are human beings with personalities and interests etc. Like Lena says, I feel like I'm a girlfriend for hire. I talked to an escort before who worked in the early 2000's. She said that nobody had any pictures up online, that was how things were. On the client's side, isn't it more advantageous to know what SP's look like approximately, and to know what type of person you will be dealing with?

 

[TheJames101]

I just want to ask a polite and genuine question to the gentlemen here, if you're not pleased with us and with the industry what is keeping you here?

I have nothing against the ladies or the industry - things are as they have become, and that's fine. I find agencies haven't changed all that much in the last 10 years, except they are a touch harder to book, sometimes.

As for this forum, I'm just here for the laughs, you pervs.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

Agreed.


Luna: Many of us have been on this board since before you were born!

FWIW, I'd guess most are pleased with you and LC.
But before covid (2003-2020) agencies that advertised on this board recruited 10-12 new girls at your level each week.

Today, the level and quantity of new recruits is just not there.

I don't know what you mean by "your level" even if I'm going to take it as a compliment.. I've never worked for an agency so I have no idea how to tell. I actually heard the opposite, that the industry is oversaturated and there are too many girls working.

What is your theory on why there are less new recruits? OF is far from being lucrative in my experience. Could it be that new SP want to work outside of Montreal now? Or maybe girls prefer other types of work or establishments because they have become more health conscious due to covid so they choose parlors instead?

I have nothing against the ladies or the industry - things are as they have become, and that's fine. I find agencies haven't changed all that much in the last 10 years, except they are a touch harder to book, sometimes.

As for this forum, I'm just here for the laughs, you pervs.

I'm talking to people who are saying they don't book providers anymore and are feeling very bitter and dissatisfied with the industry... It doesn't seem healthy or productive to stay here if you're feeling so much resentment and bitterness and if new clients (and clients who aren't disillusioned) see these comments and feel worried about booking us.

This might be a weird comparison.. But as a teenager I used to be very much into fashion, I collected rare fashion magazines and downloaded scans of magazines from other countries, etc. I had a specific forum I visited, that I used for over 10 years. It was a cesspool for girls who had an eating disorder and wanted tips on starving themselves, and mean girls who trashed celebrities looks and gossiped harshly about popular internet ppl.. ''exposing them'' for various things. I stopped visiting those forums because they were so negative. I still like fashion but I don't buy magazines or follow haute couture anymore, for many reasons. I could have continued visiting those forums just to follow the gossip but it's too much negativity for me...

 

[Fradi]

I just want to ask a polite and genuine question to the gentlemen here, if you're not pleased with us and with the industry what is keeping you here?

My ATF and one other lady that I have known for over 7 years.
if they for some reason become unavailable I will retire to be a full time grandfather lol.

 

[slychrono]

Ever since COVID hit, we live in a world that is so connected to social media and people being terminally online, yet somehow we are also so disconnected from each other. It's no surprise that this "new era/generation" seeks something different than the more casual quickie.

It's a change I've also noticed in the camming world where models go into long private sessions and spend most of it just chatting with the user and these users would pay premium rates.

 

[Valentina Amante]

But you're talking about high end escorts who suck dick just like we do, and they are far from being the norm. It's not because some of us get booked for social dates occasionally that we aren't really working. If you start advertising for these you'll get them, and you'll understand why it's just as much work. In fact a lot of SP's don't want to offer social time because it's too draining for them.

I’m not talking about high-end escorts - I mean anyone in this industry that advertises for that type of experience. This industry is already flooded with girls who think they can do this job but really can’t. The ones who lie about the services they offer, only to end up talking the whole time or wasting it on some social vibe. This isn’t a hangout.

One thing for sure that hasn’t changed: people want sex, and they’re going to look for it. However, these days, from a client’s perspective, it feels a lot more complex. Take LL for example which is the sameish concept as BP - now that’s real fast food - but it’s what people look for. Unfortunately it’s riddled with scammers so they resort to other websites or social media.

Say you’re a potential client who just wants strictly intimacy: If you’re picky and have a specific type, your chances are even slimmer to find the girl you’d like to book. You have to go through each girl’s restrictions, bios, booking processes, all of that. Add in this “new era” of escorting and you’re kind of underwhelmed with the whole process it takes - lots of girls want a minimum of 2H for the first time clients. Like how and why has this gotten so complicated? It shouldn’t be. The clients aren’t new here. It’s the girls. So it’s the girls changing this industry. Not the average Joe who is here because he’s thinking with his dick (like most guys do. Men are simple creatures of habit - they’re not gonna waste their time with this complicated stuff now)

I am also not saying that men don’t look for the dinner dates or social time either.
I’ve done the social stuff as well and it is actually very draining as you say. I’d rather be booked for 1H+ and chill naked instead of having underboob sweat in a musky speakeasy after defying Montreal traffic.

In a client’s POV, the whole point of Backpage was simplicity. I’m not on MERB, LL, or Tryst to find someone to take to the movies or play putt-putt. I’m there to pay for sex. Period. There’s other sites that are more of an “arrangement” type of meet that could be more suitable for the ladies that don’t wanna offer strictly intimacy.

 

[Salbandini]

What about you?

See above