The SP scamming you has zero to lose also.
Proud to be in the game this long without “rebranding” or changing names 7483 times. You know what it means when a SP changes her name more than once even … she sucks. And not the good kinda suck.
I agree. I meant by excluding the scammers that with enough due diligence you should be able to spot them. But if you're a gambler, it's best to keep your defeats for yourself and not taint "normal" SP with your bad experiences/experiments.
Oh for that I heard of SP harassment leading to name change, so there is still valid reasons to name change
Absolutely yes!! Not negating this important factor as well.Oh for that I heard of SP harassment leading to name change, so there is still valid reasons to name change
I don't think you're really getting the implications of what we're discussing here in this thread. I don't get burned at all. Ever. I lost some inconsequential cash from silly mistakes when I started but I've never been burned in any real way. I have had many people try to scam me though. The reason I never get burned is because I maintain control of the cash. I've been around and I've been on a lot of boards for a lot of different places. I have had hundreds of conversations online and IRL with people who have been robbed or scammed in any of a number of ways and I listened and I learned from them and their good advice has helped me develop my way of doing things, a perspective which I can share with others to do with as they will, including you if you like. If you don't pay deposits and don't pay cash up front then you quite literally can't be scammed or played. I can be robbed, but I can't be swindled. It all boils down to a few simple things. You discuss what you want up front, in detail and agree to a price. Never accept "you decide" or "whatever you think is fair" as an answer otherwise you will overpay or argue or both. Never pay deposits. When you go to your session take cash in the right amount so you don't need change and leave your wallet somewhere secure. Don't pay up front. Enjoy the session. Pay the girl everything promised. Tip if so inclined. If you do that you can never be scammed and can never be robbed of more than the cash in your pocket without extraordinary circumstances. OK, so with that you can never be scammed, however, you can relax any or all of those rules depending on where your girl comfort/risk level is. That's up to you, do as you like.
It's not best to keep defeats to yourself. If you know about a scammer then warning the community of the danger is the best thing you can do for the community, and one of the reasons for places like MERB. Keeping it to yourself hides embarrassment but doesn't help anyone else avoid the same danger.
It's fine and it's the right thing to do to share the scammers in the community. My point was more to not include the scammers as part of the SP community who are trying to make a honest living out of it.
This is refreshing to read!
Maybe because I read thoroughly the SP information I don't have any surprises. Or maybe the selection has been done upfront when seeing inclusions and exclusions. Hence the only caveat left is either lying on the resume or just pure scamming.
I’d love to return the surprise favour sometimes to these people.
Toys? Humm now you got my attention. Wrong topic sorry.
It is getting pretty beaten lol. I get why this is frustrating for clients if they don't know what the extras and restrictions are, I think it's definitely important to talk about it up front or discuss it over text or email
Yes clients need to read the ads thoroughly or ask. A lot of the time everything is stated in the ad or it can be discussed beforehand, sometimes clients are used to getting certain services and they think we all offer them. I too have had the surprise finger in my ass lol I've had to slap many hands away. I also applaud guys who ask if they can do something IRL or if they don't remember (which is possible, we're all human) ask if I offer something or not.
I think some people do lie to get clients which really sucks and is dishonest and hurting a lot of providers because it creates an atmosphere of mistrust and anger from clients.. which can be really exhausting to deal with. I also think sometimes a provider chooses not to offer a specific service to a specific client because of bad hygiene (an example of that is someone with bad breath or sores in his mouths for instance...) and maybe that is the one client who will write a bad review because he's so angry about it.
I totally agree..Almost all issues can be smoothed out or eliminated with discussion beforehand, and I'm a huge proponent of this. Even if it's in the ad it's still better to discuss and confirm, since as we all know not everyone's understanding of certain terms is the same. *cough* GFE *cough*
