It may depend on the sp seeing how she feels once meeting with a client if she feels he is ok and polite and seems genuine as my SPS never wanted it in the beginning !
It doesn't have anything to do with someone being polite and genuine, the SP or client could forget. I like to get it out of the way because this detail stresses me out. It's not an insult to clients if we ask to be paid upfront. I like to follow a ritual because I tend to be forgetful.. I ask for the donation right away so we can get it out of our heads. This is also why I used to have an alarm, which I stopped using because of complaints on this forum. Even now sometimes 15-20 minutes have passed after the booking is over because I forgot to check the time, I need to give my client my full attention.
Sometimes genuine mistakes can happen, sometimes it's actually malicious. It's common for clients to run off without paying or take the envelope back, I've heard a few stories. Even a few weeks ago, I didn't count the money that a client handed me and he shorted me over 100$. He was impossible to reach after. It's also happened that a client tried to pay me half my rate and if I hadn't counted the money in front of him he would have just left without paying the full amount.
I've had a client forget the donation once, thankfully he came back and it was a genuine mistake. Another time, a client left without paying and blocked me.. I honestly feel horrified at the idea that people here think we want the donation upfront to have an excuse to give bad service and that they may refuse to pay if the service wasn't to their liking..
Also anyone can appear genuine and polite at first and then change their behaviour. Remember, we don't know you when you book us for the first time.
This thread is really surprising to me. I was under the impression that almost all SPs were paid upfront and that that was the norm. This is how I work and basically how every other provider I know personally works. I never expect a tip so I'm just looking to confirm the payment is true to my actual rate.
Like Luna said, there is a risk someone will leave an empty envelope or the wrong amount (this happened to me once when someone tried to pay my Montreal rate instead of my touring rate. In their defense, sites like Tryst can be a little confusing for someone booking while horny but still, it made for an awkward situation that was luckily fixed in real time.)
That said, I have at least a few regulars I deeply trust and just take payment after, but that's after building that relationship of mutual trust.
I've never worked for an agency, possibly agency girls can be paid at the end of the service because they have security. At massage parlours I've worked at there was no security. Guys often left without paying naive new girls or tried to steal the money back and we were told by our manager to ask for money upfront. Once a guy took a bunch of extras from me and ran off without paying..
It seems like you guys are forgetting that this is our job and it's a dangerous one. I'm sorry leolist random girls give bad service or are scammers but legit providers like us should not be punished for it.. this is like people saying that any SP who asks for a deposit is a scammer. That's simply not true, it's false information. Yes there are scammers but a lot of legit providers ask for deposits.
If a new client shows up to see me and refuses to pay upfront I will feel really unsafe and it won't be a comfortable booking, honestly. I've only had a client complain about having to pay upfront once, and he ended up being terrible. I don't even have to ask for it usually, the client just takes the envelope or money out and hands it to me or leaves it on the table. During outcalls the envelope is usually very visible and ready once I've arrived.