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Money up front, or at the end?

philonius

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I've never had anyone ask because I always provide it clearly, upfront, so it's over and done with. Why have it in the back (or front) of their mind the whole time? What's to be gained by waiting until after? Do you pull money back if you don't feel the service was worth it?
 

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In my experience a honest SP that wants to provide a good service and not rip you off will never ask for the money upfront. It is always the ones planning something bad or to give a bad service that will ask money upfront. All the agency girls I booked never asked for payment upfront and one asking would be a BIG turnoff. Escorts off Leolist types of sites ask for payment upfront and that is because most are scams. I used twice Leolist and both times the girl asked to be paid upfront.
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That's not true.

Obviously I am a honest SP, I ask for payment upfront and it was never my intent to give bad service. I just don't want to forget or to have someone steal from me. It's happened before to me and to some of my colleagues that clients left without paying.

Obviously agency girls don't need to ask for payment upfront because they have an employer protecting them and possibly a driver waiting outside. Even then, when I've worked at MP's, I've had a client run off without paying for extras. I've had clients forget, I've forgotten, and it's happened that a client ran off without paying after the service or shorted me money.

It seems like you're forgetting that if we give bad service clients won't come back or may leave a bad review, whether or not the money is given first. Obviously with a regular client I trust, I don't need to give the money upfront but I could still forget and it would be a hassle to get it later.

If a client leaves the envelope somewhere, I try to show I trust him and I leave it untouched until he leaves. Is it possible for you to imagine being in our shoes one second?
We all hope for the best!
 
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they most likely look in the enveloppe while you are in the shower
Nah once or twice I forgot and came back from my car that is why now I make sure I do it up front.
Ones you see for the first time or have seen only once or twice I agree if they are discreet they check when you are in the shower.
 

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This thread is really surprising to me. I was under the impression that almost all SPs were paid upfront and that that was the norm. This is how I work and basically how every other provider I know personally works. I never expect a tip so I'm just looking to confirm the payment is true to my actual rate.

Like Luna said, there is a risk someone will leave an empty envelope or the wrong amount (this happened to me once when someone tried to pay my Montreal rate instead of my touring rate. In their defense, sites like Tryst can be a little confusing for someone booking while horny but still, it made for an awkward situation that was luckily fixed in real time.)

That said, I have at least a few regulars I deeply trust and just take payment after, but that's after building that relationship of mutual trust.
 

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This thread is really surprising to me. I was under the impression that almost all SPs were paid upfront and that that was the norm. This is how I work and basically how every other provider I know personally works. I never expect a tip so I'm just looking to confirm the payment is true to my actual rate.

Like Luna said, there is a risk someone will leave an empty envelope or the wrong amount (this happened to me once when someone tried to pay my Montreal rate instead of my touring rate. In their defense, sites like Tryst can be a little confusing for someone booking while horny but still, it made for an awkward situation that was luckily fixed in real time.)

That said, I have at least a few regulars I deeply trust and just take payment after, but that's after building that relationship of mutual trust.

This thread is really surprising to me. I was under the impression that almost all SPs were paid upfront and that that was the norm. This is how I work and basically how every other provider I know personally works. I never expect a tip so I'm just looking to confirm the payment is true to my actual rate.

Like Luna said, there is a risk someone will leave an empty envelope or the wrong amount (this happened to me once when someone tried to pay my Montreal rate instead of my touring rate. In their defense, sites like Tryst can be a little confusing for someone booking while horny but still, it made for an awkward situation that was luckily fixed in real time.)

That said, I have at least a few regulars I deeply trust and just take payment after, but that's after building that relationship of mutual trust.
It may depend on the sp seeing how she feels once meeting with a client if she feels he is ok and polite and seems genuine as my SPS never wanted it in the beginning !
 

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It may depend on the sp seeing how she feels once meeting with a client if she feels he is ok and polite and seems genuine as my SPS never wanted it in the beginning !
It doesn't have anything to do with someone being polite and genuine, the SP or client could forget. I like to get it out of the way because this detail stresses me out. It's not an insult to clients if we ask to be paid upfront. I like to follow a ritual because I tend to be forgetful.. I ask for the donation right away so we can get it out of our heads. This is also why I used to have an alarm, which I stopped using because of complaints on this forum. Even now sometimes 15-20 minutes have passed after the booking is over because I forgot to check the time, I need to give my client my full attention.

Sometimes genuine mistakes can happen, sometimes it's actually malicious. It's common for clients to run off without paying or take the envelope back, I've heard a few stories. Even a few weeks ago, I didn't count the money that a client handed me and he shorted me over 100$. He was impossible to reach after. It's also happened that a client tried to pay me half my rate and if I hadn't counted the money in front of him he would have just left without paying the full amount.

I've had a client forget the donation once, thankfully he came back and it was a genuine mistake. Another time, a client left without paying and blocked me.. I honestly feel horrified at the idea that people here think we want the donation upfront to have an excuse to give bad service and that they may refuse to pay if the service wasn't to their liking..

Also anyone can appear genuine and polite at first and then change their behaviour. Remember, we don't know you when you book us for the first time.
This thread is really surprising to me. I was under the impression that almost all SPs were paid upfront and that that was the norm. This is how I work and basically how every other provider I know personally works. I never expect a tip so I'm just looking to confirm the payment is true to my actual rate.

Like Luna said, there is a risk someone will leave an empty envelope or the wrong amount (this happened to me once when someone tried to pay my Montreal rate instead of my touring rate. In their defense, sites like Tryst can be a little confusing for someone booking while horny but still, it made for an awkward situation that was luckily fixed in real time.)

That said, I have at least a few regulars I deeply trust and just take payment after, but that's after building that relationship of mutual trust.
I've never worked for an agency, possibly agency girls can be paid at the end of the service because they have security. At massage parlours I've worked at there was no security. Guys often left without paying naive new girls or tried to steal the money back and we were told by our manager to ask for money upfront. Once a guy took a bunch of extras from me and ran off without paying..

It seems like you guys are forgetting that this is our job and it's a dangerous one. I'm sorry leolist random girls give bad service or are scammers but legit providers like us should not be punished for it.. this is like people saying that any SP who asks for a deposit is a scammer. That's simply not true, it's false information. Yes there are scammers but a lot of legit providers ask for deposits.

If a new client shows up to see me and refuses to pay upfront I will feel really unsafe and it won't be a comfortable booking, honestly. I've only had a client complain about having to pay upfront once, and he ended up being terrible. I don't even have to ask for it usually, the client just takes the envelope or money out and hands it to me or leaves it on the table. During outcalls the envelope is usually very visible and ready once I've arrived.
 
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Enjoying life

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It doesn't have anything to do with someone being polite and genuine, the SP or client could forget. I like to get it out of the way because this detail stresses me out. It's not an insult to clients if we ask to be paid upfront. I like to follow a ritual because I tend to be forgetful.. I ask for the donation right away so we can get it out of our heads. This is also why I used to have an alarm. Even now sometimes 15-20 minutes have passed after the booking is over because I forgot to check the time, I need to give my client my full attention.

Sometimes genuine mistakes can happen, sometimes it's actually malicious. It's common for clients to run off without paying or take the envelope back. Even a few weeks ago, I didn't count the money that a client handed me and he shorted me over 100$. He was impossible to reach after. It's also happened that a client tried to pay me half my rate and if I hadn't counted the money in front of him he would have just left without paying the full amount.

I've had a client forget the donation once, thankfully he came back and it was a genuine mistake. Another time, a client left without paying and blocked me.. I honestly feel horrified at the idea that people here think we want the donation upfront to have an excuse to give bad service and that they may refuse to pay if the service wasn't to their liking..

Also anyone can appear genuine and polite at first and then change their behaviour. Remember, we don't know you when you book us for the first time.

I've never worked for an agency, possibly agency girls can be paid at the end of the service because they have security. At massage parlours I've worked at there was no security. Guys often left without paying naive new girls or tried to steal the money back and we were told by our manager to ask for money upfront. Once a guy took a bunch of extras from me and ran off without paying..

It seems like you guys are forgetting that this is our job and it's a dangerous one. I'm sorry leolist random girls give bad service or are scammers but legit providers like us should not be punished for it.. this is like people saying that any SP who asks for a deposit is a scammer. That's simply not true, it's false information. Yes there are scammers but a lot of legit providers ask for deposits.

If a new client shows up to see me and refuses to pay upfront I will feel really unsafe and it won't be a comfortable booking, honestly. I've only had a client complain about having to pay upfront once, and he ended up being terrible. I don't even have to ask for it usually, the client just takes the envelope or money out and hands it to me or leaves it on the table. During outcalls the envelope is usually very visible and ready once I've arrived.
Luna always count please as I told my sp to do it as Im honest even when she knows me well! Sorry about that!
 
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Luna always count please as I told my sp to do it as Im honest even when she knows me well! Sorry about that!
So you agree that some people could have bad intentions.. I've often not counted the money because I want to show the client I trust him. A lot of the time if it's at my incall I don't take the envelope right away because I'm afraid the client will be turned off and think this is too transactional. But I still have to ask for the donation upfront.. I hope it's understandable.

And me being careful because of bad experiences doesn't mean I don't like my clients.. it's just how things are. In some industries people pay at the end because there is more protection but since I became an escort I got into the habit of paying people upfront. I've forgotten to pay a friend who is my massage therapist twice lol.. I of course sent her the money right away.
 

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So you agree that some people could have bad intentions.. I've often not counted the money because I want to show the client I trust him. A lot of the time if it's at my incall I don't take the envelope right away because I'm afraid the client will be turned off and think this is too transactional. But I still have to ask for the donation upfront.. I hope it's understandable.

And me being careful because of bad experiences doesn't mean I don't like my clients.. it's just how things are. In some industries people pay at the end because there is more protection but since I became an escort I got into the habit of paying people upfront. I've forgotten to pay a friend who is my massage therapist twice lol.. I of course sent her the money right away.
We are too nice me as a client and you as an sp! I think the gentleman should make sure the sp is comfortable and everything is stress free
 

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So you agree that some people could have bad intentions.. I've often not counted the money because I want to show the client I trust him. A lot of the time if it's at my incall I don't take the envelope right away because I'm afraid the client will be turned off and think this is too transactional. But I still have to ask for the donation upfront.. I hope it's understandable.

And me being careful because of bad experiences doesn't mean I don't like my clients.. it's just how things are. In some industries people pay at the end because there is more protection but since I became an escort I got into the habit of paying people upfront. I've forgotten to pay a friend who is my massage therapist twice lol.. I of course sent her the money right away.
Why do I give gifts as it my choice and it’s always appreciated ! Not hard to be a good client!
 

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I usually pay upfront, cause that's what I'm used to. But, I don't like it.
I prefer to pay at the end because, if the provider gave me a good service, I usually want to give an extra tip.
If I already paid, I usually don't like to go back in my pockets.
 
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