Do you ever just have BJ only sessions?

[mtlspacial]

Yes, I need hours of uninterrupted service

I paid for 99% up time guaranteed god dammit!

I can't tell if you're joking or not.

 

[merbuser1221]

Even for a bj session, I have to get to my incall, make the bed, clean the shower, do some laundry, make everything smell good, take a shower, put makeup on and do my hair, make sure there are refreshments for the client when he arrives, etc. I think it's just human to connect a little bit before getting to action. I've had clients who wanted to cum 2 or 3 times during the hour but I had plenty of breaks and we were able to chat. Things felt very relaxed.

This is very different from somebody who wants something painful or tedious and unrealistic, although I do understand that some people book service providers to experience things they normally wouldn't with a romantic partner.. it's just that service providers aren't necessarily interested in offering that kind of experience.


I understand. But from personal experience, you aren't necessarily right, or at least it doesn't apply to everyone. I also think even here, there are people who aren't fully honest with other users and they are still looking for human connection when it comes to booking providers. I do know some people are strictly looking for nothing but having an orgasm.. Still, I think it's important to remember there is a human being providing the service.

Yeah of course

Obviously being an ass is not good, and the service requests should be reasonable and still mindful that you’re dealing with people

 

[Lunaseraphim]

Yeah of course

Obviously being an ass is not good, and the service requests should be reasonable and still mindful that you’re dealing with people

Yeah that's mostly my point.. as I said in another thread it's also a question of matching with the right service provider. Nobody is everyone's cup of tea.

 

[interferon]

Sounds great

I'd say most guys see this as simply visiting a woman for a service, not necessarily trying to push the max limits nor seeking something emotional and "tender" as you would say lol

Just guessing but I think a lot of guys are looking for tenderness, cuddling, caring, both givng and receiving, an exchange equally [hysical and emotional.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

Just guessing but I think a lot of guys are looking for tenderness, cuddling, caring, both givng and receiving, an exchange equally [hysical and emotional.

Yeah, it's not everyone but in my experience a lot of men actually want that. Will they talk about it on the internet? Most of the time no. Because it doesn't correspond to the vision of masculinity that people generally try to project here. But I think it's sad, because it contributes to a certain stereotype about the clients of escorts when people say ''most guys just want to get off and leave''. And it's almost as if for a client to admit that they want a moment of tenderness with escorts he is immediately painted as a delusional simp who thinks the escort is his girlfriend and starts throwing all his money at her.. yet in my experience, that isn't the case.

 

[merbuser1221]

Yeah, it's not everyone but in my experience a lot of men actually want that. Will they talk about it on the internet? Most of the time no. Because it doesn't correspond to the vision of masculinity that people generally try to project here. But I think it's sad, because it contributes to a certain stereotype about the clients of escorts when people say ''most guys just want to get off and leave''. And it's almost as if for a client to admit that they want a moment of tenderness with escorts he is immediately painted as a delusional simp who thinks the escort is his girlfriend and starts throwing all his money at her.. yet in my experience, that isn't the case.

That happens though, that's a real thing

Which is why people call it out, because it becomes a slippery slope of guys self-owning themselves

 

[Lunaseraphim]

That happens though, that's a real thing

Which is why people call it out, because it becomes a slippery slope of guys self-owning themselves

This can happen no matter what. It can happen even if the guy just books a girl for 30 mins once in a while and doesn't even talk to her.

I've had clients who booked me just for an hour to cum and leave once in a while, and they started getting delusional and saying they're in love with me and asking for free things and discounts. In my experience when guys develop ''feelings'' they don't give more, they ask for more. They think you are their friend and they start messaging you all the time. They ask to hang out off the clock. They pay your old rates. They become delusional because they are projecting an ideal onto you, and they aren't truly trying to exchange with you. Some clients want to feel like they're ''special'' and ''not like other clients'', but that doesn't mean they are actually interested in who you are. It's an ego thing.

I know what you're describing exists, but that doesn't mean people should shame clients who are looking for connection when it comes to booking escorts, because that doesn't mean they don't understand the nature of the relationship and can't appreciate this for what it is. A lot of clients enjoy chatting and taking their time and bonding and they still aren't going to go insane. They are mature enough to understand what is going on.

Personally by saying I prefer to connect with my clients and I prefer longer sessions, I'm not trying to trick anyone into falling in love with me. I just don't like feeling like I'm a human fleshlight.

 

[merbuser1221]

This can happen no matter what. It can happen even if the guy just books a girl for 30 mins once in a while and doesn't even talk to her.

I've had clients who booked me just for an hour to cum and leave once in a while, and they started getting delusional and saying they're in love with me and asking for free things and discounts. In my experience when guys develop ''feelings'' they don't give more, they ask for more. They think you are their friend and they start messaging you all the time. They ask to hang out off the clock. They become delusional because they are projecting an ideal onto you, and they aren't truly trying to exchange with you. Some clients want to feel like they're ''special'' and ''not like other clients'', but that doesn't mean they are actually interested in who you are. It's an ego thing.

I know what you're describing exists, but that doesn't mean people should shame clients who are looking for connection when it comes to booking escorts, because that doesn't mean they don't understand the nature of the relationship and can't appreciate this for what it is.

Personally by saying I prefer to connect with my clients and I prefer longer sessions, I'm not trying to trick anyone into falling in love with me. I just don't like feeling like I'm a human fleshlight.

There is no shaming

It's just logic, connecting with an escort serves little purpose because it's a transactional relationship

You go in with your expectactions and what you would like, be respectful, get what you want, and then leave

Anything deviating from that starts going down a slippery slope

I think the best way to explain it is for that moment, you're having a connection and a good time with another person/escort. If you delude yourself into thinking it's more than that, that's bad

 

[Enjoying life]

I also don't think this should be the point of a BJ only session unless the SP can really provide that. (which Julia can, because she is a super hero LOL and I do admit in a duo session it's way easier)

This has mostly been why I feel more wary of providing that service lately, because some people expect a blowjob the whole time or without hands or really unrealistic things like that. They don't read my restrictions and expect FF, etc. I initially offered that session because people were asking for it, combined with a massage, and I received a lot of gratitude.

I took the session away, then I brought it back later on because I had an operation that prevented me from having penetrative sex last winter and it kinda stuck even after I had healed. But I do find that although it's straightforward and my cheapest option, clients don't want to screen and I always get a TON of questions about it with answers that should be pretty obvious. It became more tedious at some point, I'd get people who hold themselves back from climaxing and who want a 40-45 min blowjob or longer. They would push boundaries and basically treat it like GFE without penetration or even PSE without penetration, etc. A lot of people just do not understand that I am not a PSE provider.

I did have some really good sessions. I had some clients who took the option to see if we would click before getting full GFE, and they were sweet. I had clients recently who fit that description that I really liked. I also had one or two clients on the kinkier side who I vibed with a lot more than I anticipated. I just don't like feeling like I'm a suck-machine.

Nice to mix in things with what makes a client interesting like hobbies, skills being different as it makes an sp really more comfortable and even to stay longer just be a gentleman

 

[Lunaseraphim]

There is no shaming

It's just logic, connecting with an escort serves little purpose because it's a transactional relationship

You go in with your expectactions and what you would like, be respectful, get what you want, and then leave

Anything deviating from that starts going down a slippery slope

I think the best way to explain it is for that moment, you're having a connection and a good time with another person/escort. If you delude yourself into thinking it's more than that, that's bad

So you think ideally men should book an escort, arrive at her incall without talking to her, fuck her and leave?

We are human beings, not objects to be used. Of course it's transactional, but a lot of other types of relationships are transactional and involve connecting, in different industries.

Your explanation otherwise is good. Yes, you're having a good time and a connection for a moment. I think that is pretty clear. And personally I don't manipulate clients into thinking this could become more than that. However we are humans so obviously camaraderie will happen if we see a client often and you get to chat and share stories and moments together. The fact that it's transactional doesn't mean everything is fake.

Personally I think that men need to question themselves if seeing escorts is good for them or not. And I don't think this necessarily has anything to do with ''potentially developing feelings''. It's not good for some men for completely different reasons. From my perspective.

 

[merbuser1221]

So you think ideally men should book an escort, arrive at her incall without talking to her, fuck her and leave?

Nope, never said that.

The fact that it's transactional doesn't mean everything is fake.

No, if it's transactional that by definition means it's fake and not a genuine relationship

 

[Enjoying life]

Yeah, it's not everyone but in my experience a lot of men actually want that. Will they talk about it on the internet? Most of the time no. Because it doesn't correspond to the vision of masculinity that people generally try to project here. But I think it's sad, because it contributes to a certain stereotype about the clients of escorts when people say ''most guys just want to get off and leave''. And it's almost as if for a client to admit that they want a moment of tenderness with escorts he is immediately painted as a delusional simp who thinks the escort is his girlfriend and starts throwing all his money at her.. yet in my experience, that isn't the case.

We are there for compatibility company but it’s mainly about well for me getting off on my fetishes!

 

[911Daddy]

2 to 3 hours???!!! How to SPs not have sore necks?

More sore throats lol

 

[Lunaseraphim]

Nope, never said that.

No, if it's transactional that by definition means it's fake and not a genuine relationship

Transactional doesn't mean everything is fake. But you are right that it's not a genuine romantic relationship, and shouldn't be seen as such. Personally I see more of a problem with sugar baby type relationships because in that case the lines could get blurred pretty fast, but paying an escort by the hour is pretty straightforward. If you are booking escorts with the hope that one of them will become your girlfriend, you should stop right now.... If you are just looking for some pleasant company, connection and intimacy, that's not the same.

 

[minutemenX]

There is no shaming

It's just logic, connecting with an escort serves little purpose because it's a transactional relationship

In its core, almost all human connections are transactional in nature even if they are not monetary. You also can’t classify any human interaction as a binary thing. You have different connections with your barber, with your doctor, with a female colleague or with a student, or with a professor if you are a student etc. You can also establish connection with an escort especially if you are a regular. Of course, it is not the same as would be with your girlfriend (which also has tremendous range in depth and quality) but nevertheless it is a human connection. It can be satisfactory, appreciated and valued by both sides if you don’t carry any improper expectations. Another mistake that men have is that they expect instantaneous sexual desire in response to their lust. First, it is not how woman’s sexuality and mind work, second, you are the one in a long row of many other clients. Why do you expect some special and natural sexual attention from her? Does your buck go further than the buck from any other John?

 

[merbuser1221]

In its core, almost all human connections are transactional in nature even if they are not monetary. You also can’t classify any human interaction as a binary thing. You have different connections with your barber, with your doctor, with a female colleague or with a student, or with a professor if you are a student etc. You can also establish connection with an escort especially if you are a regular. Of course, it is not the same as would be with your girlfriend (which also has tremendous range in depth and quality)

Aka not the same as a genuine relationship, which is the point I’m making

 

[minutemenX]

Aka not the same as a genuine relationship, which is the point I’m making

It is up to you. It can be genuine if you understand what it means when you are with an escort. The minimal quality you need to have it genuine is the empathy.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

In its core, almost all human connections are transactional in nature even if they are not monetary. You also can’t classify any human interaction as a binary thing. You have different connections with your barber, with your doctor, with a female colleague or with a student, or with a professor if you are a student etc. You can also establish connection with an escort especially if you are a regular. Of course, it is not the same as would be with your girlfriend (which also has tremendous range in depth and quality) but nevertheless it is a human connection. It can be satisfactory, appreciated and valued by both sides if you don’t carry any improper expectations. Another mistake that men have is that they expect instantaneous sexual desire in response to their lust. First, it is not how woman’s sexuality and mind work, second, you are the one in a long row of many other clients. Why do you expect some special and natural sexual attention from her? Does your buck go further than the buck from any other John?

I don't agree that all relationships are transactional and I think that way of thinking in itself creates issues, because some of the people who ''go crazy'' over escorts think they can buy your affection.

But everything else you said I think is true. It is a human connection. We aren't machines.

Aka not the same as a genuine relationship, which is the point I’m making

Nobody is disagreeing with you here, it's not a genuine romantic relationship. I don't think anyone said it was.

I just think disconnecting the act of sex from compassion and other human feelings for another person is unhealthy. That doesn't mean ''develop romantic feelings for an escort''. That just means you are supposed to appreciate the escort you book and connect with her for the moment. Nobody wants to see clients who don't respect them but still want to fuck them. It's not because you are paying her that she isn't a real person.

 

[Enjoying life]

Transactional doesn't mean everything is fake. But you are right that it's not a genuine romantic relationship, and shouldn't be seen as such. Personally I see more of a problem with sugar baby type relationships because in that case the lines could get blurred pretty fast, but paying an escort by the hour is pretty straightforward. If you are booking escorts with the hope that one of them will become your girlfriend, you should stop right now.... If you are just looking for some pleasant company, connection and intimacy, that's not the same.

Chemistry is about two people getting along nothing to do with anything else and enjoying scenarios like my SP goes, we always have fun as you have to feel it! Also, I feel her sincere vibes !

 

[minutemenX]

I don't agree that all relationships are transactional

Even if you are in love, you desire and are expecting similar feeling from your partner. In this sense it is transactional (exchange of the emotional affection)