What happend to the scene in Montreal?
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The XO article revealed the agencies took $70 from $270 and this was confirmed when I booked. They make more than a lawyer or doctor at least from Canada. $200 per hr * 5 hrs a day * 4 days a week * 4 is $16k a month. Look at Forever or Euporia some girls are working 8-10 hr days. Many girls are doing indy work on the side at $100-$200 on top of what they get at the agency so $300-$500 per hr and if that’s outcall, they keep all of that.
In a nutshell, OnlyFans took over the youngest and hottest providers during the Covid. Others doubled and sometimes tripled their rates, killing the will to take chances for most of us. Pretty much that.
It is exactly this. When girls can get a source of income from virtual work without ever getting physical they will rather do that and since they already got a source of income then can triple their rates and lower the quality since the need is less.
I guess he’s doing the calculation for a girl that works 4 days/wk at the agency.
So then it’s 4x that!
It’s pointless for us to calculate how much an SP makes, whether agency or Indy.
Some girls only work one day per week and are doing it on the side, while having another job. So they obviously make less than others.
Some others work four days a week and do 7-8 hour shifts, so obviously they’re making a lot more.
Similar for Indies; some are low volume, same higher volume. So it’s very difficult to calculate how much they make.
Isn’t it just simple economics? Supply and demand? Agency girls are obviously still getting booked up (most of them anyways) so there is no reason to bring the price down.
Indies that charges $1000 an hour or more, I assume they are targeting ultra wealthy Canadians, and their SW income really is just a “fun” money. Although, if I were wealthy, I don’t know if I’ll be booking indies lol. I would think I would have a personal assistant who can find a perfect girl for me? I don’t know.
SW who is doing both Indy and agency; now this puzzles me. They charge more as Indy, but I guess people book them as Indy at higher price? (Yes I’ve actually done it once) but it didn’t make much sense to me.
I would say if there are 20 new SW that comes from all different parts of the world who has 8-10/10 looks and body and whom charges at $150 an hour, there will be waitlist for those girls, and the other girls would have significantly less business. So is it our immigration law? Jk
Just my two cents,..
Indies that charges $1000 an hour or more, I assume they are targeting ultra wealthy Canadians, and their SW income really is just a “fun” money. Although, if I were wealthy, I don’t know if I’ll be booking indies lol. I would think I would have a personal assistant who can find a perfect girl for me? I don’t know.
SW who is doing both Indy and agency; now this puzzles me. They charge more as Indy, but I guess people book them as Indy at higher price? (Yes I’ve actually done it once) but it didn’t make much sense to me.
I would say if there are 20 new SW that comes from all different parts of the world who has 8-10/10 looks and body and whom charges at $150 an hour, there will be waitlist for those girls, and the other girls would have significantly less business. So is it our immigration law? Jk
Just my two cents,..
I can't tell what anybody's talking about here anymore. Is it about the Montreal scene? Is it about the Europe scene? Is it about rate hikes or alternatively how much girls make ? is it the absence of girls? The absence of young girls? The reasons why people don't get into the business anymore? I wish you guys would make up your mind! 
Just as an aside as far as here vs there costs Montreal has always been more expensive than going abroad, even when it was cheaper. Nothing has changed in that respect.
Just as an aside as far as here vs there costs Montreal has always been more expensive than going abroad, even when it was cheaper. Nothing has changed in that respect.
If agencies operated like in a market based way, the agencies would have a bidding system where clients can outbid others until say a few hours before the booking. The price should rise until it meets the true demand aka dynamic pricing. The way it’s set up now where everyone at the agency is pretty much paid the same is pretty communist. And that explains why some SPs get booked up within a few minutes the schedules drop and why some clients are willing to pay the higher indy price.
Now I can admit that OKCupid’s optimal age for women’s attractiveness was found to be 20/21 setting aside any drastic changes to an individual’s diet and exercise routine, the variation between individuals is large and a younger SP does not usually result in a better experience. Just look at reviews and some of the top SPs aren’t the youngest. There is low correlation to age and how fast the SPs are getting fully booked if you plotted that on an xy graph. In Canada, there are fewer incentives to join the industry at a younger age as there isn’t a drastic price of tuition or healthcare costs or differences between rural and urban incomes you see in Asia (Thailand/Vietnam), Latin America or Eastern Europe. So it seems it’s more ethical in Canada as there is less desperation and more of an informed consent to choose to be a SP.
Now I can admit that OKCupid’s optimal age for women’s attractiveness was found to be 20/21 setting aside any drastic changes to an individual’s diet and exercise routine, the variation between individuals is large and a younger SP does not usually result in a better experience. Just look at reviews and some of the top SPs aren’t the youngest. There is low correlation to age and how fast the SPs are getting fully booked if you plotted that on an xy graph. In Canada, there are fewer incentives to join the industry at a younger age as there isn’t a drastic price of tuition or healthcare costs or differences between rural and urban incomes you see in Asia (Thailand/Vietnam), Latin America or Eastern Europe. So it seems it’s more ethical in Canada as there is less desperation and more of an informed consent to choose to be a SP.
You want people to bid on humans?????
Maybe I’m too black for that but that really doesn’t sound right
I dont even want to think about the kind of man that would visit them at that rate
^^^^ Stuff like this is another reason why there are fewer younger girls entering the sex work market. They are constantly being bombarded by negative messaging by feminists on how bad men are for wanting sex and thsy selling sex is no good whether you consent or not you are being exploited by those evil men. They now attached a negative stigma to working as an escort. Now the young girls got many other options to make money mainly virtual like OFs. They can do that and not be labelled as prostitutes. It will get worse as I said many times Canada is moving day by day more to US style for sex work. Besides Montreal and Toronto, if you think about it the sex work scene is barren. The Prairie provinces suck, the Maritime provinces got nothing. Saskatchewan has a stripclub ban, not even one club allowed. Canada is day by day having a prudish view on sex like the US.
Just a reason to vent their frustration lolI can't tell what anybody's talking about here anymore. Is it about the Montreal scene? Is it about the Europe scene? Is it about rate hikes or alternatively how much girls make ? is it the absence of girls? The absence of young girls? The reasons why people don't get into the business anymore? I wish you guys would make up your mind!
Battle Royale/hunger games style. The strongest of the horniest wins. Maybe in this dystopia the demand will end ...
?? This is exactly what I’m saying,. Then the market adjust and price will have to go up. And more people will come to Montreal (SW)
I see plenty of men traveling to other countries and pay less?? So I think men are gladly pay $150
Also bidding system? Come on. Dynamic pricing? Not all Econ work that way,.. maybe Uber? But like LC said,.. that would be very dehumanizing
Also what I’m saying is that: as much as I would love to see Giselle, I can’t afford her rate. So obviously I can’t book her. But I’m sure she’s doing just fine with her finances and types of clients she has,..
That’s what I saying. Pricing is price. “Not another rate discussion” lol.
That’s what I saying. Pricing is price. “Not another rate discussion” lol.
I am not sure what you meant then. My comment said that no one would work for 150$ an hour in this industry.
I was implying that if 20 new SW from different parts of the world came to Montreal and worked for $150 an hour, then they’ll have a waitlist of men. Other SW would have to lower their rate to compete, or leave Montreal and go somewhere if that is the market in Montreal.
Kind similar to Chinese able to come to Canada without tariff at much cheaper price than other cars.. sorry I don’t mean to get into some politics.
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