Coronavirus
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no its because they are not testing enough. USA got very late start (for many reasons i prefer not to elaborate again) but let’s just say if they had capacity testing of germany or south korea a month ago you would see a mortality % below 1% like germany.
Yea ur right. It is likely lower. That stat just stuck out, but still 800+ died today! That’s insane!
John Hopkins has a great coronavirus map you can click on any city all over the world and determine that number:
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html
The US is very low at testing regarding prorata of population. So for each positive case you need to add up many many more who are positive who do not know and who are still infecting other people. That is why rapid and massive testing is so important.
The next 2 weeks you will see massive death in America. 800 for america is not that much if you remember that Italy got 1000 on some days. And do not believe Chinese data. They and 10 times (or much more) death then they reported.
The next 2 weeks you will see massive death in America. 800 for america is not that much if you remember that Italy got 1000 on some days. And do not believe Chinese data. They and 10 times (or much more) death then they reported.
Hope they get all the vents they need in NYC man, shit...I can’t imagine 1000 deaths on daily basis
how broad is the testing in Quebec now? Is it easy to get one?
how broad is the testing in Quebec now? Is it easy to get one?
Nature boy Italy has an absolute stellar healthcare system. On par with the US. They got to a point where they had to decide who get a respirator and who did not. I organized a webinar with Italian physician last week. What they still go trough in crazy. But it's improving now. So yes expect 1000 or more in the US. At some point something will be missing either ventilator, staff who know how to operate them or simply just enough staff period to take care of everyone.
Quebec is #4 in the world right now at testing in prorata of population. But results still take way too long. 2 to 4 days. They need to bring this down to 45 minutes max!
Quebec is #4 in the world right now at testing in prorata of population. But results still take way too long. 2 to 4 days. They need to bring this down to 45 minutes max!
Japan
"As of March 30 South Korea had tested about 4,000 people per million of its population, the United States had just run five tests per million. And both country reported their first country on January 21 (or 20 it's not clear)."
Listen it's clear USA downplayed this whole thing for a full month (February). No matter what Trump says they did not believe it was a real problem.
Good thing is USA will fare better then Brazil (who are still downplaying the problem) or many other countries because they have no healthcare system to speak of...
Hope made in China ventilators are not defective as the masks that were shipped to some western countries.
Just masks for God's sake. (But cashing in the $$$s).
I just feel sorry for our Canada / North America system that they are are now scrambling and asking non medical
companies to manufacture and produce these needed devices in a very short period of time.
This I hope becomes a wake up call that you can not have just one source of supplier.
Yes I think our Premier (Governor) is doing a pretty good job. Quebec was way ahead of taking some emergency and quick actions
even asking closing the borders way before it happened, and now we see most of the Quebec cases are US related as the US was little
too late to take it seriously (Beaches open, big group gatherings, parties, Mardi Gras, believed it was a hoax etc etc).
This song by John Lennon has been resurrected as an anthem for our current circumstances:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cuuhsqA95iA
"Nobody told me there'd be days like these......strange days indeed!"
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cuuhsqA95iA
"Nobody told me there'd be days like these......strange days indeed!"
This morning in Connecticut it was reported that the fatality rate of confirmed cases is 2.2%. We now have 69 deaths in Connecticut due to Covid-19. Of the fatalities, 59%- the majority- were persons over 80 years old.
EB an interesting article on fatality rate:
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/news...ENCA_A1_20200401_1_2&bep_ref=1&bep_csid=16197
Many factors to consider for all country. Mainly the % tested and average age of the population will greatly affect the rate. Ho that and how a country report the death. Italy reported the cause to Covind-19 even if the patient had other serious health issue. Some other country do differently.
I would not be surprised to see once this whole ordeal is passed and that we have a vaccine to learn the real fatality rate to be below 1%. Just a bit higher then flu. On the other hand it makes you realize how fragile humans are.
Cheers,
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/news...ENCA_A1_20200401_1_2&bep_ref=1&bep_csid=16197
Many factors to consider for all country. Mainly the % tested and average age of the population will greatly affect the rate. Ho that and how a country report the death. Italy reported the cause to Covind-19 even if the patient had other serious health issue. Some other country do differently.
I would not be surprised to see once this whole ordeal is passed and that we have a vaccine to learn the real fatality rate to be below 1%. Just a bit higher then flu. On the other hand it makes you realize how fragile humans are.
Cheers,
John Lennon was a visionary, a genius of his kind.
I love this song, what wonderful memories you brought back to me. It doesn't make me feel younger, it was in 1984. The music and the lyrics are extraordinary.
Thanks again for talking about it.
Interesting how some dictatorships are reacting to the pandemic. One of the "stan" countries has banished the word coronavirus. If you are heard using the word then you get dragged off to jail.
Russia was late coming to the reality of a pandemic, but now is over reacting by giving out hefty prison sentences to those who break isolation. The dictator of Brazil believes that Brazilians are immune to the virus and is carrying on like nothing is wrong and its a hoax .....following Trumps words from a couple of weeks ago.
You knew that I was going to bring the big orange into this conversation. lol
Russia was late coming to the reality of a pandemic, but now is over reacting by giving out hefty prison sentences to those who break isolation. The dictator of Brazil believes that Brazilians are immune to the virus and is carrying on like nothing is wrong and its a hoax .....following Trumps words from a couple of weeks ago.
You knew that I was going to bring the big orange into this conversation. lol
It makes sense. Some of us logging onto merb right now may carry the coronavirus without even being aware of it & only a test would shock us into finding it out. As for the fragility of humans i'd say that the majority of people on the planet are literally in shock at how fragile the human being really is. As for me i kind of realized this after watching the great movie 'Contagion' several years ago. I was shocked at how easy it is to spread a virus around the world. I remember thinking: "Holy shit! This thing could happen here!" And people would easily get caught off guard since we've grown to be overconfident over the years in regards to pandemics. But i remember thinking what if it's a brand new virus?? We'd totally be fucked since there'd be no current vaccine since it's a brand new virus!
And the other i'm watching a movie where the actors are hugging one another and i started thinking "Sure, cover him/her with all your germs!!" I mean....in the not-to-distant future it's not hard to imagine people giving one another a hug being frowned upon! Even just shaking hands....i'm not sure i'll ever shake hands with another person again!
One problem with these devices is that they are quite difficult to operate. You need a health care professional such as a respiratory technologist to operate these. Hospitals do not employ that many. So you could have 50 ventilators available but what good would it be if you only have 1 or 2 respiratory technologists in the building? I've personally seen a doctor figure out a way to operate the machine one time since the RT was away on vacation at the time (many smaller hospitals are lucky to even have one RT on site) but most of the doctors i've seen would probably have an easier time figuring out to drive a car blindfolded! And the thing is every patient is different & the rate of ventilations often differs from one patient to the next. Unless it's an expert handling the machine it'd be very easy to be negligent with it and practically no use to the patient requiring that treatment.
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