What's the difference between hiring someone in the hobby or hiring someone who goes out to singles bars a couple times a week and picks up someone for a random fuck? The guy who cruises bars probably spends at least as much money if not more than the guy who just saves time and calls for takeout. I won't even bother with the morality question of married vs single hobbiests. Every one has different moral beliefs and some men hobby with the approval of their SOs. It wouldn't surprise me if some marriages have actually been saved by the hobby. Where I think a problem could arise is if someone is truly addicted to the hobby and it begins to affect his everyday life. But this could become a problem with any kind of addiction whether it be to the hobby, drugs, gambling, or anything else.
Would you hire the hobbyist?
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I'm not sure about pet owners being religious nuts, etc. and neither am I sure that beer drinkers are necessarly into venal sex, but you are correct on the general idea: not every type of corporate environment would have the same level of tolerance towards hobbyists.Big Daddy Cool said:
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What skills and qualities are minimally required to be a (succesfull) hobbyist? Reseach capabilities? People skills? Punctuality? Charisma? Outgoing? Sense of humour? Likes to party? Dresses nice? Open minded? Polite? Holds doors for the ladies? Romantic? Patient? Has good manners? Has a cute butt?Fat Happy Buddha said:
Can spell? (forrgait dat wan)... Seriously, there's a whole logistic underlying the hobby and a whole set of prerequisites to be a hobbyist.How about this as a starter: a good hobbyist knows how to get his money worth.
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From a practical standpoint, the two activities share the same logistic with, perhaps, a few variations. From the ethical standpoint, it's reasonable to think that one activity is more stigmatized than the other one, at least in the Western culture.Techman said:
Brilliant!Techman said:
As it stands, internet addiction is certainly costing more to corporations than SP, strippers, etc. addictions.Techman said:
Would You Hire a Professional Who is a Hobbyist
Let's broaden the question.
Would you hire(personally or corporately) a professional - lawyer,accountant, etc who you knew to be a hobbyist.
Re-ask the question: " .... to be an alcoholic, drug user, have been suspended by their professional association for misconduct?"
Let's broaden the question.
Would you hire(personally or corporately) a professional - lawyer,accountant, etc who you knew to be a hobbyist.
Re-ask the question: " .... to be an alcoholic, drug user, have been suspended by their professional association for misconduct?"
Ziggy Montana said:
If you read my post carefully, it has 2 "not"s. What I meant to say is that I could care less if the person is a hobbyist or a SP. For me, this does not factor into any equation for job hiring or for anything else. The only time I would use this is if I met the hobbyist or SP before and they did something either positive or negative that I liked or disliked but then I would do this for all people.
Well, I think while it's TRUE that a person's personal life should not be taken into consideration because it's personal. However, that only happens in a "perfect world".
While I respect his hobby, I would think ONLY of myself. Is he going to be reliable? Even if he's 99.999% reliable (compare to non-hobbyist), I would take the 0.001% advantage that the non-hobbyist offers. The image of the company is very important (unless it's IN the escorting business, than hiring someone who knows the rope would be better).
Basicly, I won't judge him; but I sure as hell don't care about being fair to him. I just want the best for my company.
While I respect his hobby, I would think ONLY of myself. Is he going to be reliable? Even if he's 99.999% reliable (compare to non-hobbyist), I would take the 0.001% advantage that the non-hobbyist offers. The image of the company is very important (unless it's IN the escorting business, than hiring someone who knows the rope would be better).
Basicly, I won't judge him; but I sure as hell don't care about being fair to him. I just want the best for my company.
As Ziggy mentioned in another post, the bottom line (profits) is what matters most.
Ziggy:
Animal crackers are not pet food. What I ment was cookies sold for children shaped as animals as well as other shapes. I remember eating them as a kid, but what I was aiming at was the type of business that's targeting children and families. Sorry for the confusion.
By the way you are right on target about the coporate environment being more or less tolerant and that beer drinkers not nessarly being sex crazed people. I meant that as an over generalization to deministrate the differences of target markets affecting the level of tolerance accepted by the corporation.
Ziggy:
Animal crackers are not pet food. What I ment was cookies sold for children shaped as animals as well as other shapes. I remember eating them as a kid, but what I was aiming at was the type of business that's targeting children and families. Sorry for the confusion.
By the way you are right on target about the coporate environment being more or less tolerant and that beer drinkers not nessarly being sex crazed people. I meant that as an over generalization to deministrate the differences of target markets affecting the level of tolerance accepted by the corporation.
The Best .............
The best person for the job within the financial constraints imposed by budgets balanced against possible fall-out - public perception etc.
Those who have been suspended by their professional associations should be avoided.
The issue of hiring a former alcoholic or person with a substance abuse problem is trickier. In situations where first hand knowledge of such issues
is a plus there may be advantages. In situations where such previous weaknesses may be exploited it would be difficult.
Roland said:1)If his qualifications were in order , and he had experiance of my type of business absolutely..without question.
2)No..been there(not me) ... done that. Don't need trouble.
I am guessing that there are a few professionals on this board. Everyone should know at least one...who just hasn't showed up here..yet..
The best person for the job within the financial constraints imposed by budgets balanced against possible fall-out - public perception etc.
Those who have been suspended by their professional associations should be avoided.
The issue of hiring a former alcoholic or person with a substance abuse problem is trickier. In situations where first hand knowledge of such issues
is a plus there may be advantages. In situations where such previous weaknesses may be exploited it would be difficult.
eastender said:
Well, I would not not hire them on the sole basis that I knew for a fact that they were a hobbyist (2 nots again). As I previously mentioned, it is a non-factor for me. If I was in a hiring position and I didn't hire them for the only reason that he/she is a hobbyist, I would be saying that I wouldn't hire myself since I'm a professional (although not one of the professionals that you mentioned). By professional, I mean that I am a member of an order and among other things I am one of the groups/individuals that are able to sign as guarantors for Canadian passports until the Canadian government loosens the rules in August.
eastender said:
Now, this is a different and more difficult question for me to answer. I think it would depend on a few issues as well as whether I felt that it would affect their ability to do the job. This also applies to a professional being suspended by their professional order.
eastender said:
For me, it would depend on why the professional was suspended.
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jimace said:
Interetsing ...to read this literally.... always a tricky phrase... probably could have used another "not"...
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