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Would You Book a Service Provider if You Knew She Was Being Pimped?

CaptRenault

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…obviously my Indy's are from reputable sites, MERB, IC and Tryst.
Do those sites have a process to guarantee that the Indy girls who advertise on them are “pimp free.”

i don’t think so. :rolleyes:
 
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I have always said it that Agencies are the real pimps of this business. I have used agencies in the past, very seldom. yeah, you don't see him like we see in the movies or like then old days in then red Light district in Mtl. I went Indy and have never regrated it, obviously my Indy's are from reputable sites, MERB, IC and Tryst.
The Ann123 & LL are the places where most are scams because of the pimps. As for me and for most guys here have all had a run in with these pimp scumbags. I am 100% Indy and will never use an agency.
Now, what do we say about MP's? or is that another thread that should be started?
I think mps are the same thing .
 
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Obvio-0bvio

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Do those sites have a process to guarantee that the Indy girls who advertise on them are “pimp free.”

i don’t think so. :rolleyes:
According to popular belief, anyone who assists a service provider could be labeled as a pimp. Bottom line , if a service provider is driven to her client by an Uber driver, the driver is a pimp.

Similarly, if the client contacts her using a phone number from Rogers, that provider could also be viewed as a pimp.

Furthermore, if the client communicates with the service provider via email using a Hotmail account, Hotmail may also be classified as a pimp.

In summary, anyone associated with a service provider is potentially seen as a pimp. Today, I gained a new insight from the discussions on this forum.
 

Mandouke

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Are whore, ho, hoe, hooker and pute etc. just "other words" for escort?
Very good point, words have meaning and are meant to convey a message.

The example of "pimp" and "boss" are a prime example. They are miles apart in their meanings. "Pimp" has a specific meaning, whereas "boss" is more generic.

Your example of "ho, hooker, etc." and "escort" are similar. The first two examples are derogatory and the second "escort" is much more palatable and acceptable.
 

Obvio-0bvio

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Pimps get arrested and sent to jail. Not the agency owners
That's a excellent point, I hope this settles the discussion on comparing real pimps to agency owners.
 

Julia Sky

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Pimps get arrested and sent to jail. Not the agency owners

If they got caught they'd get arrested. It's happened before. There are agencies that disappeared for "legal reasons" lol... Please show me the law that makes an exception for agency owners I'm curious :)
 

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If they got caught they'd get arrested. It's happened before. There are agencies that disappeared for "legal reasons" lol... Please show me the law that makes an exception for agency owners I'm curious :)
Tony, did get taken away.
 

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Personally I always considered agencies as pimps, perhaps not violent pimps but nevertheless profiting off the work of the girls.
This is the reason I have never booked a provider through an agency ever.

i struggled for a long time in even hiring an indépendant as I did not want to be someone who is abusing a woman simply because I can afford the price.

I realized that not seeing an escort will not change their life or stop them from being an escort and at least when they are with me they will be treated with kindness and respect and they will never have to worry about not being payed their asking price.
I am lucky that I see a lady who I have become friends with who I absolutely love being with and look forward to it always, and hopefully she will always consider me not just a client but a friend also.
 

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If they got caught they'd get arrested. It's happened before. There are agencies that disappeared for "legal reasons" lol... Please show me the law that makes an exception for agency owners I'm curious :)
Dunno why you mention exception for agency owners. Tho thread s topic is about pimps.
Pimps go to jail = bad.
Period.
 

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Dunno why you mention exception for agency owners. Tho thread s topic is about pimps.
Pimps go to jail = bad.
Period.

You're the one who pretended like agency owners are immune to the law, I asked you to show me the exception. There are a few who did get arrested so your point was moot is all I'm saying
 

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I believe the bullies would be the bookers. It's maybe an exceptional circumstance that the bullying is overt, like yelling or something. What's more common is probably them not booking clients who ask to see an escort (saying they’re fully booked) because somehow the lady pissed them off. And yet, I imagine such booker tactics must be inspired by the owners desire for profit in some way, since in the end it’s about profits…

Can one this call the booker a pimp? Perhaps. Though it doesn’t bring to mind the same connotation the word is meant to have that is internalized in the here and now for many. The key difference, if we take the terms literal meaning, is that the booker isn’t so much in control of the female agency in our 1st world. And that’s because she has choices to leave and still gain income at a different agency, or via indy, I think. This is also why onlyfans has been a very good thing for sexwork overall. That being said, if I had more insight into the going ons behind the scene, I might indeed think of a booker simply as a pimp. If we begin to deviate from “merb advertisers” ask yourself: if some dude is texting replies from the escorts phone you’re planning to see…is he her pimp? How much control does he have over her life? How much of her earnings is he allowed to claim to not be considered overstepping from booker to pimp??
 
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Hemme

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You're the one who pretended like agency owners are immune to the law, I asked you to show me the exception. There are a few who did get arrested so your point was moot is all I'm saying
Tu ouvres le jdem et la plupart du temps ca mentionne des pimps. Voila!
 

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Personnellement j'ai déjà travaillé avec quelques agences Devilish/FrenchMuse/French Connection/Indy's secrets. J'ai déjà moi même starté une petite agence quand je me suis retirée d'être sp. Je ne me suis jamais sentie pimpée, c'était mon choix de les engager pour gérer mon horaire, me driver, filtrer mes appels et assurer ma sécurité. Je ne vois pas ça comme c'est eux qui m'engage, mais bien le contraire .
C'est ce qui fait la différence d'un pimp (heureusement j'en ai jamais eu ) . Je ne connais pas une sp qui engagerait un pimp. Oui il y a sûrement de mauvaises agences j'en suis consciente. Pour ma part je mettais mes limites (nombre de calls,nombre de jours travaillés etc) c'était prendre ou à laisser . Je suis aussi consciente que ce n'est pas toutes les filles qui ont le guts de négocier, par gêne, par peur de se faire renvoyer etc.
C'est nous qui faisons 90% de la job on mérite le respect , la compréhension et le soutien de notre employeur comme dans n'importe quel domaine de travail.
Soyons maître de nous-mêmes et définissons nos limites
#respect
#girlspower
#peaceandlove
Kisskiss you all xoxo
 

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This thread opens up a bag worms involving everything. Aside from the pimping situation, heres another one.

would people still visit establishments wether agency or mp that its known that some of the providers are offering bbfs?

thanks for the thread obvio, as usual you make the mind work ! Lol
This is a complete different subject and should belong to it's own thread. Independants offer this service (BBFS) also even if pimped girls might be obliged to do it.
Some girls will say they are OK being "so called" pimped because they are not forced to do things they don't agree to do and they are protected and don't have to deal with appointments. The problems occur when a pimp has complete control over a girl. It all comes back to which definition you give to "pimp", controlling, managing, the business is one thing controlling an other human being under coercion is completely different. Of courseI I don't thing "pimping" a minor could be simply management...

@Sexy Judy vient juste d'écrire un post relatant son expérience personnelle. Quand elle travaillait comme escorte, elle ne se sentait pas "pimpé" et de l'autre côté de la médaille elle ne considérait pas "pimper" les filles quand elle avait sa propre agence.

La légalisation de la prostitution (et non la simple décriminalisation) aiderait sûrement à fixer des normes acceptables.
 
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This is a complete different subject and should belong to it's own thread. Independants offer this service (BBFS) also even if pimped girls might be obliged to do it.
Some girls will say they are OK being "so called" pimped because they are not forced to do things they don't agree to do and they are protected and don't have to deal with appointments. The problems occur when a pimp has complete control over a girl. It all comes back to which definition you give to "pimp", controlling, managing, the business is one thing controlling an other human being under coercion is completely different. Of course i don't thing "pimping" a minor could be simply management...

@Sexy Judy vient juste d'écrire un post relatant son expérience personnelle. Quand elle travaillait comme escorte, elle ne se sentait pas "pimpé" et de l'autre côté de la médaille elle ne considérait pas "pimper" les filles quand elle avait sa propre agence.

La légalisation de la prostitution (et non la simple décriminalisation) aiderait sûrement à fixer des normes acceptables.
Money is the pimp instrument of control.
The problem is if a girl is in financial trouble and ask a pimp to lend her money...she's fucked up
 
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This thread opens up a bag worms involving everything. Aside from the pimping situation, heres another one.

would people still visit establishments wether agency or mp that its known that some of the providers are offering bbfs?

thanks for the thread obvio, as usual you make the mind work ! Lol
I had this situation in another town in canada but discovered it after I had my fully safe meeting.

It does negatively affect my interest in a provider because I care about my health and I have people in my life who rely on me being clean.
 
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