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Quite the opposite I think! News says it was to turn his youtube video viral to invite people to vote for Trump.
I love trump he's so much fun to watch. I Google him everyday to know the latest stupidity. Americans really deserve him.
I do not follow American politics very much but have been following these two a little. Just my opinion... Both are not fit to run any country, Clinton is perhaps the most crooked, Trump is a mouth but I think his bark is worse than his bite. Trump will be better for the US economy and Clinton will be best for the elite rich. Trump will win because there are more red necks than elite rich. Again, just my opinion.
The presidency is not for the person that is the most fit, it is the one that is the most popular.
Clinton is more dangerous than Trump, she might not launch a nuclear missile but she can start a war for strategic interests. She's a western version of Putin, with way more means.
It's a bit harsh to say that. Beside, once elected he might cool off and be darn good, as crazy as he is right now, he might know what he's doing. I will never like him because I despise people who put the blame on others but themselve. Still, the US cannot go with 12 years of democrats...
Cheers,
Sorry jalimon. No offense but my instant reaction was this sounds like the classic mistake women make about bad men. Oh, he can't really be anything like he acts all the time...I think he's good inside. Then they find out, OOOPS, all the crap is as real as it looked.
Since this is the T'Dump thread: Here's a lesson in what you see is what you get.
The Chairman of the RNC warned Trump in a phone call to stay on message or the RNC would pull their backing from him to save other Republican candidates in this national election.
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box...arned-trump-to-change-campaign-or-party-would
Trumps response was "he will either win with his frank and uncensored style of campaigning or enjoy a very, very nice long vacation."
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/08/11/gop-presidential-candidate-donald-trump.html
"I'm a truth teller. All I do is tell the truth. And if at the end of 90 days, I've fallen short because I'm somewhat politically correct even though I'm supposed to be the smart one and even though I'm supposed to have a lot of good ideas, it's OK. I go back to a very good way of life."
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Any idea he knows the truth is phony. The only truth he has in him is being exactly truthful about what he thinks and saying that. His latest statement that both President Obama and Secretary Clinton founded Isis/the Islamic state shows how little truth he knows or can identify except that he is truly delusional.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-idUSKCN10M146
I think the most important thing here is he has no conscience about how what he says and does will affect him, and much worst how it would affect the country. He is a fatalist. He's going to be who he is no matter what happens and damn anyone else who tries to say otherwise.
Despite appearances I really hate to bring up that madman again, but he reminds me so much of that guy who refused to listen to any of his generals and thought he was the only person with the right answers. Result: national ruin and 10 million of his own countrymen dead.
cheers
No delusions, just a skilled disinformation agent.
Nobody wants to give Ronnie blame (or credit, if getting some of that 600Billion/year)
http://www.globalresearch.ca/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/reaganandmujahideen.jpg
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I find this to be an interesting comment. As someone who lives in the US, I must ask: why not? No, economic growth is not what it should be, interest rates are low making it difficult to save, and there remain serious problems in the country. But under Democratic administrations, we have pulled out of the recession that happened under the last GOP administration. We have almost universal healthcare, which statistics are showing to have newly insured millions of formerly uninsured people and has not (at least yet, several years in) been the "job killer" the GOP consistently predicted it would be. On the foreign policy front, we have drawn down from the Iraq mess, largely but not entirely shut down Guantanamo, and, oh, by the way, even killed Sadaam Hussein, not to mention a bunch of other al-Qaeda and other terrorist leaders. Gasoline prices are insanely low, despite the dire warnings about how much we need fracking and our continued reliance on oil and what will happen if we don't have those... Our currency is reasonably strong. Obama's popularity in this country is sky-high, which is virtually unheard of for a president who has been in office for almost 8 years, and he would probably be re-elected easily if he was allowed to run for a third term. On the social fronts, gays and lesbians now have full legal protections for marriage like any other couple, marijuana is becoming more and more accepted in the states, and even on the fed level Obama is about to lift the federal ban on marijuana research, and Christianity, amazingly, has not yet been outlawed despite years and years of the "War on Christmas".
Yes, it's a virtual hell-on-earth here in the US... Please, yes, give us Trump to set everything to rights again, like they were in the 1950s.
Great post indeed. Maybe I should have said, "ok lets give 4 more years so we can then have some half human candidate"
But of course many will disagree with you, many of those will disagree because they cannot get on with themselve that a black was elected to the white house (I do business with some people in alabama, texas... I can surely tell you that is the thruth). I agree with you that Obama would win another term if he could. As much as I would like a women to become president (about fucking time!) I know for sure Clinton is wrong wrong and wrong...
I am a canadian. One of the few who voted Harper for many years because I trusted him and his party to run our country, more then the liberals (beside gun law on which they suck*). I would do the same in the US right now, vote for the republicain. But never ever for Trump (neither if Cruz had won). Will the republicain will ever come back to have some decent candidates?
Cheers,
They had some good candidates. The Vice-Presidential nominee for instance would be another who's pretty decent. The problem this time was a large block, mostly Tea Partiers, went for one candidate because their temperament and selection process tends to be visceral thus matching up well with Trump. When there are 16 other candidates to divide up the rest of the voters (maybe up to 2/3 of all voters) it almost can't work out well enough to make any of them competitive.
You can bet your life the Republicans are busy considering changing the party primary rules of eligibility for candidates to lead their party. I know voters, especially Republicans have been attracted to political outsiders in this run, but looking at the awful mess they got they must be looking at the consequences of that very seriously. If the party came up with any eligibility rules changes I would not be surprised it was about experience in government.
Having an outsider when you don't trust "the government" sounds attractive and logical but you are putting a novice into maybe the most complicated job on the planet. Sending in such a rookie is really a terrible idea unless he's had very like experience. Eisenhower for instance dealt with nearly everything a politician does and he was fine at the job. People may think being a business leader is similar. Possibly. Looking at the tête de la merde at the top of the Republican ticket says precisely the opposite. And how about one who didn't have 4 bankruptcies on his resume, in which as Bloomberg said, he screwed over other investors.
As for the choice, I would never pick an arrogant egomaniac with delusions of god-hood who disgusted me long before I knew which party he belonged to.
Change she to he and you have the basic reason why supporters say Trump would be a great President. Hillary is condemned for the same thing they praise in T'Dump.
It's the same irony with "attacks". He gets admiration for telling it like it is, but he has zero tolerance when he gets the same coming back at him.
Great post indeed. Maybe I should have said, "ok lets give 4 more years so we can then have some half human candidate"
But of course many will disagree with you, many of those will disagree because they cannot get on with themselve that a black was elected to the white house (I do business with some people in alabama, texas... I can surely tell you that is the thruth). I agree with you that Obama would win another term if he could. As much as I would like a women to become president (about fucking time!) I know for sure Clinton is wrong wrong and wrong...
I am no Clinton fan. I believe she is too closely tied to the financial sector, and too quick to resort to force to solve diplomatic problems. That said, you have to remember that she, and her husband, have withstood 25 years of venomous, and frequently completely false, attacks by the GOP. These attacks, despite the lack of proof of most of the claims, despite the wild conspiracy theories, despite the over the top mudslinging ("look at the way she waves her hands, she is mentally ill!") are going to color people's perceptions of her, whether there is merit to them or not. Clinton will be a perfectly ok, center-left (but more left now than she would've been had not Bernie Sanders been in the race and had not the Republicans gone so over the top wth their racist, misogynistic, anti-Semitic, white nationalist fascism) president. She has the experience, the knowledge, and the foreign policy chops in general to be effective, or as effective as anyone can be in a situation where one party in a two-party system has given up on any pretense of actually wanting to govern.
Absolutely, some people hate Obama because he is black. Some will hate Clinton because she is a woman (who the fuck cares about pantsuits?). Those people, however, are a dying breed. The demographics in the US are changing irrevocably, and unless the GOP decides to accept the fact that uneducated white males will soon no longer be the dominant voting bloc in the country, they will find themselves increasingly marginalized as a political force. And they will, I fear, resort to other means, such as "2nd amendment options," which is merely code for domestic terrorism and assassination.
Doubt it by a lot.
1st - His temperament. He'll be off the cuff for the whole time and that's when he digs his own grave.
2nd - Political knowledge. where is his? He didn't even know Ukraine had been attacked by Russia, something frequently in the news.
3rd - Clinton will tweak him and he'll lose it with his temper. Only insults and irrational claims will follow.
4th - Clinton's a woman. The very idea a woman is allowed to stand there as an equal will irk him.
5th - He can't help being the same self-eviscerating Trump.
*** She knows her stuff and she's a fighter.
It's not that they don't have decent candidates, it's that they (with assistance from Fox News) have conditioned their base to not vote for them. Decent candidates can not get through a Republican primary. The most decent of the batch this round was Kasich and look at how many votes he got. He lasted really long but not because he got votes, he just refused to drop out. Someone like Kasich would've had a really good shot at Clinton because she's one of the worse candidates the Democrats have ever put up.
Her experience is why people hate her. Yes, it is what every other politician has done but no one has done it at the highest level for as long as she has. She is a bigger and better crony capitalist than anyone who has ever lived. If you are part of that system and benefit from that system you love her, she's the most qualified candidate ever. If you think something is wrong with the current system beyond "my party is great and your party sucks" she is pretty awful.
It's crazy that the person giving the most momentum to Clinton by speaking is Trump. He's a total train wreck right now - he was given multiple outs to focus on the policies that led to the current situation in the Middle East (which is a stance you can then try and build momentum off) and didn't take the cue, instead choosing to double down on his claims of founding ISIS and being MVP's. For the undecided not exactly the way to get them to join his side - the "true believer" republicans might drink the Kool-Aid (although the fact most tried to turn it on past policy suggests the RNC recognizes policy can be attacked, not a claim on founding ISIS), but that's not the target group Trump needs to recruit.
It's telling that since the RNC ended, the gap between him & Clinton in all the polls is widening to her favor - less about what she is doing than his routine becoming clearer for the undecided to see. Unless there's a scandal the RNC can latch on to Clinton to take away the attention on what Trump says, well, as a Canadian I think we might indeed see the odds broken and a 3rd term with the same party.
It's telling that since the RNC ended, the gap between him & Clinton in all the polls is widening to her favor - less about what she is doing than his routine becoming clearer for the undecided to see. Unless there's a scandal the RNC can latch on to Clinton to take away the attention on what Trump says, well, as a Canadian I think we might indeed see the odds broken and a 3rd term with the same party.
An open letter from Michael Moore to Ivanka Trump:
Dear Ivanka:
I’m writing to you because your dad is not well.
Every day he continues his spiral downward—and after his call for gun owners to commit acts of violence against Mrs. Clinton, it is clear he needs help, serious help. His comments and behavior have become more and more bizarre and detached from reality. He is in need of an intervention. And I believe only you can conduct it.
He trusts you. He believes in you. Although I don’t know you personally, you seem to be a very smart and together woman. I think he will listen to you. He must because he is now not simply a danger to himself, he has put the next president of the United States in harm's way. He has encouraged and given permission to the unhinged and the deranged to essentially assassinate Hillary Clinton. Her life is now in worse danger than it already was—and should anything happen, that will not only be on his head but also on those closest to him if they stand by and do nothing.
I say this with the utmost kindness, care and concern for you, and I know you will do the right thing. Bring him in, off the road, away from the crowds. Now. Tonight.
And when you do, here is what a good friend of mine, a former counselor and social worker, Jeff Gibbs, suggests that you say to him:
Dad, we need to have a chat. Are you feeling okay? Do you have a minute? Please sit down. Because this isn’t going to be easy. No, I am not pregnant. No, what is going on is… is… I am really, really worried about my father. About you.
Dad, I owe everything to you. You’ve built an empire, a brand and a business for the ages. You have taken care of me, inspired me and, through your example, have made me who I am: a self-confident, honest-to-a-flaw, woman.
But Dad, I am deeply worried. You haven’t been yourself lately. The father I know is not a hater, not someone who encourages violence. Dad, you used to be A LIBERAL. You raised me as a liberal! The Clintons were your friends—Chelsea is one of my best friends! And now you’re joking that Hillary should be assassinated? Really?
Dad, I hate to say this, but you’re making me scared, you’re making my friends scared, and you’re scaring the whole country.
Dad… Dad, sit down! They’ll wait. I am not finished. Don’t get angry. Try to listen.
Yes, I know they love it, the crowd goes wild. But not for YOU. They don’t love YOU. They love the show that you put on. But people who hunger for red meat will turn on you in a minute. No, they don’t love you. I love you. I will always love you. And I see you hurting yourself—and you’re hurting ME, Dad.
Don’t get upset! You’re still the handsomest billionaire I know. I will always love you. Melania will always love you. Vladimir will always love you… OK, maybe that wasn’t funny. But you get my point. This running for president thing is destroying the dad I have known and loved. And honestly, you and I both know you didn’t really want this job to begin with! You just wanted to make a point. OK, well, POINT MADE! You did it! Now, let’s stop and get some help.
I am asking you, right now, to give it up. To leave the race. Let that nice man from Indiana run things. Your place in history is secure. You need to withdraw. Move on, for your sake, for the country’s sake, for my sake.
The man who raised me was the man who, for no charge, built a huge ice rink in Central Park for all the people to use! You struck deals with some of the biggest assholes on the planet in finance and politics and yet remained friends, mostly. You built a family that loves you. I want that dad back! And I worry that, if you don’t stop now, neither you nor the country will ever recover.
There, there, Dad, it’s okay, let it out. Let it out, because I know beneath that gruff, tough, handsome exterior is a little boy who just never got enough love. And that little boy needs some time to find himself again.
Let’s you and I walk out there right now. The cameras are all set up and waiting. You can make up whatever excuse you want. You can blame whomever you want. You’re good at that! I just know this can’t go on, and you know it, too.
Take my hand, let’s end this. And by tomorrow you and I will be sipping martinis on our yacht in the Hamptons with Chelsea and the friends we still have left. I love you, Dad. Let’s do this. That’s right, take my hand, here we go…
Ivanka, I have faith in you that you can do this. I know I’ve called your dad crazy before, but I was speaking politically, not clinically. This has gone beyond crazy. The entire nation—in fact, the entire world—needs you to step forward and do the courageous thing history will praise you for: the loving act of a brilliant daughter who also loved her beleaguered country enough to say her father wasn’t well and needed help.
Thank you, Ivanka.
Yours,
Michael Moore
Ivanka, your dad isn't well
Dear Ivanka:
I’m writing to you because your dad is not well.
Every day he continues his spiral downward—and after his call for gun owners to commit acts of violence against Mrs. Clinton, it is clear he needs help, serious help. His comments and behavior have become more and more bizarre and detached from reality. He is in need of an intervention. And I believe only you can conduct it.
He trusts you. He believes in you. Although I don’t know you personally, you seem to be a very smart and together woman. I think he will listen to you. He must because he is now not simply a danger to himself, he has put the next president of the United States in harm's way. He has encouraged and given permission to the unhinged and the deranged to essentially assassinate Hillary Clinton. Her life is now in worse danger than it already was—and should anything happen, that will not only be on his head but also on those closest to him if they stand by and do nothing.
I say this with the utmost kindness, care and concern for you, and I know you will do the right thing. Bring him in, off the road, away from the crowds. Now. Tonight.
And when you do, here is what a good friend of mine, a former counselor and social worker, Jeff Gibbs, suggests that you say to him:
Dad, we need to have a chat. Are you feeling okay? Do you have a minute? Please sit down. Because this isn’t going to be easy. No, I am not pregnant. No, what is going on is… is… I am really, really worried about my father. About you.
Dad, I owe everything to you. You’ve built an empire, a brand and a business for the ages. You have taken care of me, inspired me and, through your example, have made me who I am: a self-confident, honest-to-a-flaw, woman.
But Dad, I am deeply worried. You haven’t been yourself lately. The father I know is not a hater, not someone who encourages violence. Dad, you used to be A LIBERAL. You raised me as a liberal! The Clintons were your friends—Chelsea is one of my best friends! And now you’re joking that Hillary should be assassinated? Really?
Dad, I hate to say this, but you’re making me scared, you’re making my friends scared, and you’re scaring the whole country.
Dad… Dad, sit down! They’ll wait. I am not finished. Don’t get angry. Try to listen.
Yes, I know they love it, the crowd goes wild. But not for YOU. They don’t love YOU. They love the show that you put on. But people who hunger for red meat will turn on you in a minute. No, they don’t love you. I love you. I will always love you. And I see you hurting yourself—and you’re hurting ME, Dad.
Don’t get upset! You’re still the handsomest billionaire I know. I will always love you. Melania will always love you. Vladimir will always love you… OK, maybe that wasn’t funny. But you get my point. This running for president thing is destroying the dad I have known and loved. And honestly, you and I both know you didn’t really want this job to begin with! You just wanted to make a point. OK, well, POINT MADE! You did it! Now, let’s stop and get some help.
I am asking you, right now, to give it up. To leave the race. Let that nice man from Indiana run things. Your place in history is secure. You need to withdraw. Move on, for your sake, for the country’s sake, for my sake.
The man who raised me was the man who, for no charge, built a huge ice rink in Central Park for all the people to use! You struck deals with some of the biggest assholes on the planet in finance and politics and yet remained friends, mostly. You built a family that loves you. I want that dad back! And I worry that, if you don’t stop now, neither you nor the country will ever recover.
There, there, Dad, it’s okay, let it out. Let it out, because I know beneath that gruff, tough, handsome exterior is a little boy who just never got enough love. And that little boy needs some time to find himself again.
Let’s you and I walk out there right now. The cameras are all set up and waiting. You can make up whatever excuse you want. You can blame whomever you want. You’re good at that! I just know this can’t go on, and you know it, too.
Take my hand, let’s end this. And by tomorrow you and I will be sipping martinis on our yacht in the Hamptons with Chelsea and the friends we still have left. I love you, Dad. Let’s do this. That’s right, take my hand, here we go…
Ivanka, I have faith in you that you can do this. I know I’ve called your dad crazy before, but I was speaking politically, not clinically. This has gone beyond crazy. The entire nation—in fact, the entire world—needs you to step forward and do the courageous thing history will praise you for: the loving act of a brilliant daughter who also loved her beleaguered country enough to say her father wasn’t well and needed help.
Thank you, Ivanka.
Yours,
Michael Moore
Ivanka, your dad isn't well
The GOP must dump Trump
by Joe Scarborough, Washington Post
The Muslim ban, the David Duke denial, the “Mexican” judge flap, the draft dodger denigrating John McCain’s military service, the son of privilege attacking an immigrant Gold Star mother and the constant revisionism and lying about past political positions taken are but a few of the lowlights that have punctuated Donald Trump’s chaotic chase for the presidency.
Any one of these offenses would have disqualified any other candidate for president. But the Republican nominee remained competitive against a historically weak Democratic nominee on the promise of bringing radical change and dramatic disruption to Washington.
That appears to be changing. Post-convention polls show Trump falling behind by double digits both nationally and in must-win swing states like Pennsylvania, New Hampshire and Virginia.
And the political ride will only get rockier for Trump in the coming days after he suggested that one way to keep a conservative Supreme Court after Hillary Clinton got elected would be to assassinate her or federal judges. Trump and his supporters have been scrambling wildly all day to explain away the inexplicable, but they can stop wasting their time. The GOP nominee was clearly suggesting that some of the “Second Amendment people” among his supporters could kill his Democratic opponent were she to be elected.
The presidential candidate that House Speaker Paul Ryan endorsed tried to explain away his suggestion of an assassination by telling Sean Hannity his comments were meant to unite supporters before the election. It’s too bad for Trump and his supporters that his comments related to what Hillary Clinton would do after being elected and nominating Supreme Court justices that gun owners would not like.
We are in uncharted waters but that does not mean that the way forward is not clear. It is.
1. The Secret Service should interview Donald Trump and ask him to explain his threatening comments.
2. Paul Ryan and every Republican leader should denounce in the strongest terms their GOP nominee suggesting conservatives could find the Supreme Court more favorable to their desires if his political rival was assassinated.
3. Paul Ryan and every Republican leader should revoke their endorsement of Donald Trump. At this point, what else could Trump do that would be worse than implying the positive impact of a political assassination?
4. The Republican Party needs to start examining quickly their options for removing the Republican nominee.
A bloody line has been crossed that cannot be ignored. At long last, Donald Trump has left the Republican Party few options but to act decisively and get this political train wreck off the tracks before something terrible happens.
Joe Scarborough is a former Republican Congressman from Florida who hosts the morning show "Morning Joe" on MSNBC
The GOP must dump Trump
by Joe Scarborough, Washington Post
The Muslim ban, the David Duke denial, the “Mexican” judge flap, the draft dodger denigrating John McCain’s military service, the son of privilege attacking an immigrant Gold Star mother and the constant revisionism and lying about past political positions taken are but a few of the lowlights that have punctuated Donald Trump’s chaotic chase for the presidency.
Any one of these offenses would have disqualified any other candidate for president. But the Republican nominee remained competitive against a historically weak Democratic nominee on the promise of bringing radical change and dramatic disruption to Washington.
That appears to be changing. Post-convention polls show Trump falling behind by double digits both nationally and in must-win swing states like Pennsylvania, New Hampshire and Virginia.
And the political ride will only get rockier for Trump in the coming days after he suggested that one way to keep a conservative Supreme Court after Hillary Clinton got elected would be to assassinate her or federal judges. Trump and his supporters have been scrambling wildly all day to explain away the inexplicable, but they can stop wasting their time. The GOP nominee was clearly suggesting that some of the “Second Amendment people” among his supporters could kill his Democratic opponent were she to be elected.
The presidential candidate that House Speaker Paul Ryan endorsed tried to explain away his suggestion of an assassination by telling Sean Hannity his comments were meant to unite supporters before the election. It’s too bad for Trump and his supporters that his comments related to what Hillary Clinton would do after being elected and nominating Supreme Court justices that gun owners would not like.
We are in uncharted waters but that does not mean that the way forward is not clear. It is.
1. The Secret Service should interview Donald Trump and ask him to explain his threatening comments.
2. Paul Ryan and every Republican leader should denounce in the strongest terms their GOP nominee suggesting conservatives could find the Supreme Court more favorable to their desires if his political rival was assassinated.
3. Paul Ryan and every Republican leader should revoke their endorsement of Donald Trump. At this point, what else could Trump do that would be worse than implying the positive impact of a political assassination?
4. The Republican Party needs to start examining quickly their options for removing the Republican nominee.
A bloody line has been crossed that cannot be ignored. At long last, Donald Trump has left the Republican Party few options but to act decisively and get this political train wreck off the tracks before something terrible happens.
Joe Scarborough is a former Republican Congressman from Florida who hosts the morning show "Morning Joe" on MSNBC
The GOP must dump Trump
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