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Here is one men that truly inspired me deeply. Never tough separation of Quebec into it's own country should be done. I like Canada to much. Still he was the last true down to earth politician wich I admire a lot. Only Jack Layton came close in recent years. My problem with Justin Trudeau is that I met him about 3 times in the last 10 years and did not like what I saw. But that's just me, your are right, I could be wrong and he could be greatest PM of all time. Until then I have many doubts, I am afraid he will put Canada is such debts... Harper reduced our debt greatly while still making canada a fucking great country, I admire that!
Cheers,
I love Canada as much as anyone else, but as a french-canadian i'm all for the separation of Quebec, although i wouldn't move there if it ever happened . I do understand why separatists would prefer Quebec being a country instead of a province. I march arm-in-arm with my french-canadian brothers living in Quebec whenever the separation issue comes up.
Why wouldn't i move to Quebec? I love Canada more and as a retiree i'd have more advantages living in Canada where i spent most of my life. Plus i pay enough taxes already and although Quebec's taxes are among the highest in North America, they'd likely go up even more were Quebec to separate from Canada.
On a slightly different note, California should separate from the US and have its own country. It would be much better off, but of course Gov. Jerry Brown won't live forever and all it would take is for another republican governor to come and destroy its economy again. Republicans are very good at destroying things.
Doc you support Quebec`s separation but you prefer to live in Ontario. Illogical.
That`s like stating your love for communism but prefer living in a democracy because you don`t want to lose your freedom of speech. Huh???
If Quebec separation ever occurs then most Canadian provinces would join the US while Newfoundland would join Poland and Ontario would remain as Canada with Drake as Prime Minister.
That`s like stating your love for communism but prefer living in a democracy because you don`t want to lose your freedom of speech. Huh???
If Quebec separation ever occurs then most Canadian provinces would join the US while Newfoundland would join Poland and Ontario would remain as Canada with Drake as Prime Minister.
I was born & raised in Ontario. My healtcare system is superior to Quebec's and my retirement plan is registered with the Ontario government. Plus the higher taxes in Quebec already scare me away. Were i younger and not retired, i'd more to Quebec the day it separates.
But as a proud french-canadian, i truly support my brothers and sisters in their wish to have their own country.
Vive le Canada! Vive le Quebec! Vive le Quebec libre! :thumb:
Another persona of yours? Too bad a very high majority of Quebecers think it is a bad idea.
That's because of the anglophones and the immigrants. But the majority of french-canadian Quebecers would vote for separation. And as i mentioned, i wouldn't blame my french-canadian brothers and sisters one tiny bit to do so. Quebec is bigger than France and should be a country, not a province.
Yes Quebec is geographically bigger than France but with about 10% of the population....besides who wants the French economy.
The great Quebec north is inhabited by black bears, polar bears and a few thousand Inuit, who would separate from Quebec in a flash if Quebec separated.
The great Quebec north is inhabited by black bears, polar bears and a few thousand Inuit, who would separate from Quebec in a flash if Quebec separated.
Maybe Canada could keep West Island if Quebec would ever be allowed to separate. Then the anglos would all be happy & still be a part of Canada.
Doc Holliday;1017523[U said:]Maybe Canada could keep West Island [/U]if Quebec would ever be allowed to separate. Then the anglos would all be happy & still be a part of Canada.
That is called partition not separation !
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Booker
You really think voting matters, don't you.
Let me explain to you what happens if Quebec ever 'votes' to separate...
The FLQ terrorist group is revived, they are held responsible for a few attacks and the Canadian army is called in (again). The Quebec premier calls for calm and condemns the attacks. The Prime minister of Canada calls for unity and likewise condemns the attacks.
A slogan is chanted (on est tous Canada?), we all shed tears, wave the flag and boom. Quebec is still a province.
Quebec, enraged then calls up it's military - oh wait - that's right, Quebec does not have one.
Military force decides almost everything in this world. If you think 'votes' matter... God damn man, come back to reality. :noidea:
Jill Stein the Green Party candidate has filed for recount in Wisconsin and promises to do the same in Michigan in Pennsylvania. Rump has 290 officially awarded electoral votes. All three states are close enough to flip however unlikely. With some electors elsewhere already pledging to dump their vote for Rump there is some small risk Rump could fall below the 270 electors need to be certified as President.
A recount is underway.
http://lawstreetmedia.com/elections/recount-effort-underway-wisconsin-clinton-camp-now-participating/
On another note, security problems to protect Rump and his family will cost the American people $1 million a day in New York alone. That's $365 million a year just in one place.
A recount is underway.
http://lawstreetmedia.com/elections/recount-effort-underway-wisconsin-clinton-camp-now-participating/
On another note, security problems to protect Rump and his family will cost the American people $1 million a day in New York alone. That's $365 million a year just in one place.
After the recount and Clinton still loses what is there to complain about next? The odds of a recount getting Trump out of power is zero, left wing people need to accept the fact that Clinton deserved to lose and she did, Trump did not deserve to win either but the best of the two worst possible choices won.
The US dollar is still up, stocks are riding high ( yes I know, must be some coincidence due to gray matter somewhere because it was not supposed to happen ( according to the lefties ). As I said before, in a couple of years when you get more bang for your buck and jobs are available you may be thankful Trump won, if he says a few wrong things or is an asshole why should it bother you, planning a dinner date with him or plan to be his best friend?
The US dollar is still up, stocks are riding high ( yes I know, must be some coincidence due to gray matter somewhere because it was not supposed to happen ( according to the lefties ). As I said before, in a couple of years when you get more bang for your buck and jobs are available you may be thankful Trump won, if he says a few wrong things or is an asshole why should it bother you, planning a dinner date with him or plan to be his best friend?
Once again some dishonest shading creeps in. Why? You were given a list of over 300 Republicans at the highest possible level of government who don't want Rump for President, but you keep on blaming only the Left.
Don't be so afraid of DUE PROCESS if you believe in the system and you believe the count will not change. There is no chance Clinton will win even if two states flip. But don't be so afraid of an accurate vote count.
Besides you are not an American voter as far as I know. You've got an opinion not a vote and therefor no legitimate say in how things are carried out.
A recount is part of the election process in a democracy and should be welcomed by everyone. We should all want accuracy and honesty in any election, correct? Or do you prefer doubts and conspiracy theories to linger on?
Considering how much the Russians have been implicated in this recent election (and they're proud of what they did!), a recount should definitely be a must to make sure every vote is validated.
Hillary Clinton did overwhelmingly win the popular vote, after all. She currently leads Trump by over 2 million votes and there's word it could even reach 3 million by the time all the counting is over. This is unprecedented. She leads Trump by a bigger margin than winners JFK (in 1960) and Nixon (in 1968) had over their counterparts in their respective elections.
A recount is not only part of the democratic process, but it's also constitutional.
Considering how much the Russians have been implicated in this recent election (and they're proud of what they did!), a recount should definitely be a must to make sure every vote is validated.
Hillary Clinton did overwhelmingly win the popular vote, after all. She currently leads Trump by over 2 million votes and there's word it could even reach 3 million by the time all the counting is over. This is unprecedented. She leads Trump by a bigger margin than winners JFK (in 1960) and Nixon (in 1968) had over their counterparts in their respective elections.
A recount is not only part of the democratic process, but it's also constitutional.
In the news today.
On Saturday, Clinton campaign general counsel Marc Elias said that while his team “had not uncovered any actionable evidence of hacking or outside attempts to alter the voting technology,” they would participate in the Stein-led recount in Wisconsin as well as recounts in Pennsylvania and Michigan if Stein is successful in initiating them.
Trump pointed to the criticism he received from Clinton and other Democrats when he refused to say he would accept the results of the election when asked during the third presidential debate.
“That is horrifying,” Clinton responded after Trump’s refusal. “That is not the way our democracy works. We’ve been around for 240 years. We’ve had free and fair elections. We’ve accepted the outcomes when we may not have liked them. And that is what must be expected of anyone standing on a debate stage during a general election. I, for one, am appalled that somebody that is the nominee of one of our two major parties would take that kind of position.”
Clinton later blasted Trump’s refusal to say that he would respect the election results as “a direct threat to our democracy.”
And during her concession speech a day after the election, Clinton urged her supporters to “accept the results and look to the future.”
“Donald Trump is going to be our president,” she said. “We owe him an open mind and the chance to lead.”
She lost, live with it.
On Saturday, Clinton campaign general counsel Marc Elias said that while his team “had not uncovered any actionable evidence of hacking or outside attempts to alter the voting technology,” they would participate in the Stein-led recount in Wisconsin as well as recounts in Pennsylvania and Michigan if Stein is successful in initiating them.
Trump pointed to the criticism he received from Clinton and other Democrats when he refused to say he would accept the results of the election when asked during the third presidential debate.
“That is horrifying,” Clinton responded after Trump’s refusal. “That is not the way our democracy works. We’ve been around for 240 years. We’ve had free and fair elections. We’ve accepted the outcomes when we may not have liked them. And that is what must be expected of anyone standing on a debate stage during a general election. I, for one, am appalled that somebody that is the nominee of one of our two major parties would take that kind of position.”
Clinton later blasted Trump’s refusal to say that he would respect the election results as “a direct threat to our democracy.”
And during her concession speech a day after the election, Clinton urged her supporters to “accept the results and look to the future.”
“Donald Trump is going to be our president,” she said. “We owe him an open mind and the chance to lead.”
She lost, live with it.
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