The results speak for itself. I said it several months ago that Poilievre would win and Charest would get a slim amount of votes, Liberal voters laughed at me. Now see the reality. As per the results Poilievre has the support of both Centrists and Progressives. The membership as spoken. His support is so strong, he won almost all ridings. Poilievre will do what Harper was able to do where Scheer and O'Toole failed, that is to unite the Conservative party both far right and moderate right. They will follow a strong leader not afraid to stick to Conservative principals. Now time to dethrone a miserable excuse for a prime minister, Justin Trudeau. Poilievre will make Canada great again. There is now hope for Canada.
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Even the media thinks Poilievre can beat Trudeau. Poilievre gathered large crowds. Liberal voters are scared and hide with laugh emojis. Poilievre is coming.
Poilievre did what he had to do to get the hard core conservative nutcakes. He now has them.
He now has 3 years to tone it down, sound a little more prime-ministerial and appeal to a broader base.
In the mean time, Trudeau will dig the Liberals into a deeper hole.
Poliievre with a minority in a few years is very easy to imagine. A majority depends on how bad Trudeau makes things, which isn't hard to image either.
After WTF was that garbage Shear
This is an 'Excellent" choice for the conservatives.
This POS is as worse as Shear if not "Better"
O'toole seemed too nice of a human, decent person to be the head of the conservatives.
Now this guy has 3 years of barking to do,
He can work on his 5 min lectures before the 5 sec questions.
This is an 'Excellent" choice for the conservatives.
This POS is as worse as Shear if not "Better"
O'toole seemed too nice of a human, decent person to be the head of the conservatives.
Now this guy has 3 years of barking to do,
He can work on his 5 min lectures before the 5 sec questions.
You are right about that. Your last paragraph summarizes their prediction in the article.
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This is so gross, without your signature I had thought this has been written by a sarcastic "leftist" as you like to call on your opponents. Or maybe your account has been hacked???
I think Poilievre is a wise guy, contrary to Trump who is the perfect idiot. He knows his toxic rhetoric would make him gain the race within the CP. Now he will have a hard choice to do, dumping his BS talk and maybe win the next Canadian election going more to the center as O'Toole did or stick with this BS and lose an other one. You seem to be still on the vape of your easy, predictable, last night victory. I don't want to break your party but the awakening will be very rough if you continue to believe your dreams are real. Hope you will not be hurt too badly when the fall will come.
The biggest problem with O'Toole was that he was too wishy washy. He never stood a chance against Trudeau.
Hate to break your bubble but O'Toole lost too Trudeau. He was too wishy washy and thought that by swinging to the left will win him votes. Why vote for a Liberal lite if you can vote for a true Liberal? The purpose is to offer a different type of government. Trudeau already dug himself into a hole and he will keep digging deeper. Trudeau's popularity is at an all time low, his position is so weak that he needs the NDP to prop him. Trudeau only ever won one majority government. The way the anger keeps on building against Trudeau, be prepared for the Poilievre wave. Trudeau is lucky to have Singh prop him up, he is safe till 2025 then he will be shipped out by Poilievre. Time to have a sensible and intelligent leader for this country.
Btw: I am neither a leftist or a rightist. I am for Liberty/Freedom and small government.
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Les chiens aboient, la caravane passe.
Dogs bark but the caravan moves.
Bizarre calling the media to push your point. They are no more mainstream fake medias???
I know the reality hurts. But accept it, Trudeau's days are numbered. Enjoy it till 2025. Poilievre will send Trudeau packing and I want a first row seat of that day.
I fully agree with you on this one, but Poilievre is not the one right now. He still has 3 years to come back to reality and win a minority government in the best scenario for him.
No Conservative Party can win an election without Toronto, Montreal and the suburbs. truckers will make noise but that's all, noise only... It's different selling membership cards to frustrated peoples and packing the vote and winning a democratic election where everybody is entitled to vote.
You are right about that. To win the election you need to win Ontario. Right now Poilievre speaks what I agree with, but will he follow through? That is a whole other story. Right now what is on Poilievre's side is the anger and frustration against Trudeau. But who knows what will really happen in 3 years, will that actually translate to votes? Time will tell.
Reality do not hurt. I don't give a shit about Trudeau, but the problem is Poilievre is supported by a bunch of fanatic who do not represent Canada and will never win a democratic election. As I said, they will bark and make noise... but that is all.
I never voted Liberal, neither for Quebec or Ottawa. I voted Partie Conservateur, for Brian Mulroney. He is quite a guy!
It is clear there is a big divide between the west and the east. Poilievre is supported by the west but the east has far more population density so he needs the support of the east. I still predict Poilievre will win but I tend to agree with you it will be a minority government.
Wow for Mulroney, I was too young to remember him, what I know of him is from my parents or what I read on the internet. From what I read he was one of the most hated prime ministers. He introduced the GST and started globalism. I am curious as to why you liked him so much.
Well he was much more than that...
On the GST some people presented it as a new tax but it replaces an hidden one, the manufacturer's tax.
He led the party to a landslide victory in the 1984 federal election, winning the second-largest percentage of seats in Canadian history (at 74.8 percent) and receiving over 50 percent of the popular vote. Mulroney later won a second majority government in 1988. So he was not so hated...
He was first of all a business man but he also cares for the workers.
He introduced Free Trade agreement with the USA. He was also well recognized by the international community.
For globalism, he joined the parade, I doubt he started it, all developed countries went in.
He was a Progressive Conservator. I think even Western Canada would win with this kind of politic. But since the Reform Party screwed it all, the conservative party means nothing for a lot of Canadians.
I pretty well agreed with what is written here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Mulroney
What is to stop Trudeau calling is annual election next week before Poilievre gets his rabble organised ??
The Governor General is the only person who could prevent this happening , fat chance !!
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Trudeau would loose, he is very weak right now and there is a lot of anger and frustration against him. The NDP coalition is the only thing keeping him in power.
A well written article and I tend to agree. I can see the Reform party is not popular on this board, but O'Toole lost, he tried to be a Liberal lite and failed miserably. He was wishy washy and the Conservative party was very fractured. Even though Trudeau won the last two elections, he lost the popular vote. Trudeau also divided the country because he favors certain groups and specific regions (the Greater Toronto Area and the Greater Montreal Area). At this time Trudeau is very weak and I suspect he is one of the most hated prime ministers right now after Stephen Harper. After experiencing the covid pandemic, I think a lot of people do not want a nanny state type of government. Freedom resonates a lot with Canadians. In Ontario there are many die hard Liberals (all in the GTA) but out in rural Ontario those voters can swing either way.
Direct Quote from the Article:
Poilievre’s promises of a smaller, more efficient federal government, leaving people with more money in their pockets and more freedom to make their own choices about what is best for them and their families has clearly struck a chord with many Canadians.
This resonates with the average joe that is Canadian.
With the Trudeau Liberals at the opposite end of the political spectrum — believers in the nanny state, along with their partners in the NDP
After two years of the covid mandates, I do not think anyone wants to be treated like children anymore.
If it does, the Liberals will be ripe for defeat — in power for a decade by then, led by an unpopular PM heading an unpopular government, with an ever-expanding list of political baggage, scandals and broken promises.
Don’t forget, Trudeau lost the popular vote in the last two elections. Most voters believe, according to a recent Leger/Postmedia poll, that he has divided the nation because he “often favours certain groups and regions of the country over others, which has created national unity issues.”
Even though Poilievre is far-right, the Liberals got to take this seriously. Keep in mind that Trudeau dug a hole and keeps on digging a deeper hole. Trudeau is so power hungry, he will not call an election. So long as he does what the NDP wants. He is safe till 2025.
torontosun.com
However as Like_It_Hot said, Polievre will have to ease a bit to the centre without turning into another Liberal lite to be able to swing those voters in Ontario. He has a very good chance. There are many angry frustrated people with Trudeau and Poilievre can capitalize on that and capture their vote. Poilievre is very charismatic and I am confident he will be able to. Go Poilievre!
nationalpost.com
Direct Quote from the Article:
Poilievre’s promises of a smaller, more efficient federal government, leaving people with more money in their pockets and more freedom to make their own choices about what is best for them and their families has clearly struck a chord with many Canadians.
This resonates with the average joe that is Canadian.
With the Trudeau Liberals at the opposite end of the political spectrum — believers in the nanny state, along with their partners in the NDP
After two years of the covid mandates, I do not think anyone wants to be treated like children anymore.
If it does, the Liberals will be ripe for defeat — in power for a decade by then, led by an unpopular PM heading an unpopular government, with an ever-expanding list of political baggage, scandals and broken promises.
Don’t forget, Trudeau lost the popular vote in the last two elections. Most voters believe, according to a recent Leger/Postmedia poll, that he has divided the nation because he “often favours certain groups and regions of the country over others, which has created national unity issues.”
Even though Poilievre is far-right, the Liberals got to take this seriously. Keep in mind that Trudeau dug a hole and keeps on digging a deeper hole. Trudeau is so power hungry, he will not call an election. So long as he does what the NDP wants. He is safe till 2025.
EDITORIAL: Poilievre faces a weakened Trudeau
Pierre Poilievre is now leader of the Conservative Party of Canada after an impressive leadership campaign which he led from start to finish.
torontosun.com
However as Like_It_Hot said, Polievre will have to ease a bit to the centre without turning into another Liberal lite to be able to swing those voters in Ontario. He has a very good chance. There are many angry frustrated people with Trudeau and Poilievre can capitalize on that and capture their vote. Poilievre is very charismatic and I am confident he will be able to. Go Poilievre!
Ben Woodfinden: With Poilievre as leader, Conservatives ready to beat Trudeau Liberals
The party can build a new coalition with working class and younger Canadians
nationalpost.com
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Poilievre is bright. Not a single time he said Freedom or Liberté during his victory allocution. Already turning his back to fanatics of the Freedumb Clownvoy. But he was using them and put oil on the fire when they were blocking roads and occupying Ottawa downtown... An other interesting event to watch will be the presidential election in USA 2024. If it is as nasty as 2016 and 2020, even with Trump in jail or not in the race, and if trumpers inside the conservative party of Canada are too vocal, Poilievre will have to choose his camp and then it will be tricky because if he sticks to trumpers, he will alienate a large quantity of Canadian voters and then it may end with an other minority Liberal government. Politicaly speaking, years to come will be interesting to watch.
Nice book to read is "The Prince ", a 16th-century political treatise written by Italian diplomat and political theorist, Niccolò Machiavelli.
Nice book to read is "The Prince ", a 16th-century political treatise written by Italian diplomat and political theorist, Niccolò Machiavelli.
You all make valid points. But if the Cons do end up winning the next election it will more likely have more to do with the need for change than anything else.
While it is true that PeePee will likely have 2-3 years to change his mini Trump act (actually he’s more Ron DeSantis than Trump) will his current supporters still be around if he succeeds into dropping the school bully act and become a less divisive, less polarizing act?
We still don’t know if JT will even want to run again. But he’s still the Liberals’ best chance at retaining power. And so far all he’s done is win elections. PeePee hasn’t yet accomplished anything other than using social media to his benefit & constan whine about whatever the government does or doesn’t do. Now that i think of it he reminds me more of GYM Jordan than any other US politician. I just think he turns more people off than not. And let’s not forget: only 30% of voters show up at the polls on election day. Will the Liberals be successful in scaring the shit out of voters about PeePee in order to get them to the polls?
The bottom line is that in Canada the federal government has the least effect on people‘s lives than municipal and provincial governments. Most people don’t realize this. Whichever government gets elected federally will have very little effect on Canadians’ everyday lives. It’s easy to blame Trudeau or previously Harper for all of our problems but more often than not the federal government has been a useful scapegoat when more blame should be directed at various other levels of government. And when people justifiably blame the provincial governments they in turn shift the blame to the federal. And when you blame the municipal government they in turn shift the blame to the provincial. And so on. It’s like that old Hank Williams Jr song.
While it is true that PeePee will likely have 2-3 years to change his mini Trump act (actually he’s more Ron DeSantis than Trump) will his current supporters still be around if he succeeds into dropping the school bully act and become a less divisive, less polarizing act?
We still don’t know if JT will even want to run again. But he’s still the Liberals’ best chance at retaining power. And so far all he’s done is win elections. PeePee hasn’t yet accomplished anything other than using social media to his benefit & constan whine about whatever the government does or doesn’t do. Now that i think of it he reminds me more of GYM Jordan than any other US politician. I just think he turns more people off than not. And let’s not forget: only 30% of voters show up at the polls on election day. Will the Liberals be successful in scaring the shit out of voters about PeePee in order to get them to the polls?
The bottom line is that in Canada the federal government has the least effect on people‘s lives than municipal and provincial governments. Most people don’t realize this. Whichever government gets elected federally will have very little effect on Canadians’ everyday lives. It’s easy to blame Trudeau or previously Harper for all of our problems but more often than not the federal government has been a useful scapegoat when more blame should be directed at various other levels of government. And when people justifiably blame the provincial governments they in turn shift the blame to the federal. And when you blame the municipal government they in turn shift the blame to the provincial. And so on. It’s like that old Hank Williams Jr song.
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