Jean Chretien is not innocent either, remember he was involved in the sponsorship scandal which tainted the Liberal image for a while which probably is one of the reasons Harper won.
SILLY POILIÈVRE and the Canadian Conservative Party
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I did say that I'm not a fan of his, but not getting involved in Irak was the best Foreign policy decision Canada made in the 21st century. The conservatives would've thrown us into that mess.
Also, and I'm not gonna reply any further so don't waste your time, you comparing Trudeau to a "dictator" says a lot about you. That kind of gross over exaggeration just tells me that I shouldn't take you seriously.
I was responding to Purplem. He said Harper was a virtual dictator, I want him to explain how. And Trudeau might not be a dictator but freezing bank accounts is the act of a dictator. He used Emergency Powers on peaceful truckers who wanted freedom from covid mandates. The fact that you think the freezing of bank accounts is a gross over exaggeration of Trudeau acting like a dictator tells me that I should not take you seriously.
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So funny to read your posts. Your bank accounts were frozen??? Freezing the criminals bank accounts is the way to go!
Peacefull truckers disturbing the living of honest residents downtown Ottawa for weeks?
FreeDumb!!!! Libarté!!! They honked for days and polluted the area by letting their diesel engines running. They inhaled to much fumes it disturbed their fainted minds.
Thanks, you made my day!
Forget the Ottawa occupation, those idiotic truckers started fucking with the country's most vital national interest their is when they messed with border crossings in Ontario and Alberta : being a stable and reliable commercial partner of the US. Those idiots should have been dealt with much more harshly. Fuck them.
Also, who said they had to be vaccinated to get into the US? The government... of the UNITED-STATES OF AMERICA. What's the point of annoying the citizens of Ottawa?
Idiots, all of them.
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Your posts crack me up also, amazing there are ppl like you that put all trust in the government, do you think the ppl in government are saints? Is that not what the government did? For over two years they turned the life of everyone upside down by enforcing mandates on citizens! They shut down businesses while no politician lost a single dime of salary. Rampant inflation everywhere! Here in Quebec they enforced a curfew. Here you are calling the truckers criminals. Now that is funny. All those ppl in government belong in jail for what they did, what happened the last two years has no place in a democratic society. Lol What bothers you about people that ask to be left alone? Good for them, that is to show the government to leave us alone and if it took honking horns so be it. The truckers protest is a reaction to what the government did for over two years and they had no plans to leave us alone ever. Rights and freedom is not conditional, the constitution and the bill of rights will not be suspended for any reason. Good thing most ppl are not thinking like you.
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Here are just a few examples of how he acted as a so-called "political strong man", abused his legitimate authority as PM and took away - or tried to take away the acquired rights of citizens.
It's been reported many times how his fellow Cons were pretty much forced into parroting whatever he said and were barred from expressing opinions he did not like.
He began the practice of proroguing Parliament any time he felt like it. The longer he was in power the more he flexed his authoritarian muscles...as all rightwing politicians tend to do, especially those striving to be despots in all but name.
Also before he lost his final election when Canada was FINALLY fed up with his power-grabbing antics, he wanted to force people to work 2 more years (raising pension eligibility from 65 to 67), remove door to door postal delivery, remove an individual's right to opt for assisted suicide, and criminalize clients of sex workers.
As I said, he could have been one of Canada's best PMs because he was not stupid...but like all rightwing politicians who get a bit of power, he wanted more and more and more...and he thought he could impose HIS ideas on all Canadians. His arrogance and ambition destroyed him, thank Heaven - before he destroyed the country. And that's why all intelligent people must pray that PP never attains power: because PP has all of Harper's bad points (and then some more!) with NONE of Harper's good ones.
Right: Rampant inflation everywhere - the key word being "everywhere"...as in everywhere in the WORLD.
Truckers as a group are not criminals. Those who caused so many problems with their corrupt blockade were indeed criminals.
They should had stay home alone!!! Et arrêter d'écoeurer les autres.
"To be left alone".. That is not what they asked. They tried to impose their silly point of view and were an horrible nuisance.
Ils ne devaient pas brimer la liberté des honnêtes citoyens en envahissant leurs quartiers, faisant du bruit jour et nuit, les empêchant de dormir, les intimidants par ce qu'ils étaient prudents et portaient des masques pour se protéger et protéger les autres plus vulnérables de la contagion.
Ce sont de parfaits imbéciles. Ce qu'ils auraient du faire. Manifester paisiblement quelques jours, 2-3, ne pas bloquer une voie d'accès aux USA, etc.
De toute façon tu sais très bien qu'une petite minorité de Canadiens étaient en accord avec leurs actions. La grande majorité condamnait leur "occupation" du centre-ville d'Ottawa.
Même parmi les opposants aux mesures sanitaires, plusieurs n'appuyaient pas leur désobéissance civile.
Que l'argent des extrémistes d'extrême-droite des USA ait été bloqué, rien de plus normal. On ne veut pas d'ingérence des Chinois ou des Russes dans nos affaires. On ne veut pas plus que les far-right trumpistes des USA aident à soutenir ceux qui ne veulent que se défouler et créer le chao sans respect pour les autres.
Tout ceci Poilièvre le savait très bien mais les a quand même appuyés. En fait il s'est moqué d'eux et les a utilisés. Mais ils sont trop Dumb pour s'en apercevoir.
Normalement le Parti Conservateur veut se présenter comme le parti de la loi et de l'ordre. Cette fois il a manqué le bateau et a misé sur le mauvais cheval, sur un canasson.
C'est la même démarche que la base électorale du clown qui a été président et qui ne cesse de mentir, après avoir fraudé toute sa vie.
Harper: I explained it.
Trudeau: So I see you've backtracked ("And Trudeau might not be a dictator"). Good move.
Indeed you make good points. I was no fan of Harper either, I wanted him gone. I voted for Trudeau when he won his first majority. But everything he said were lies. I personally do not think Poilievre will be much better but he cannot be worse then Trudeau.
Yes because all countries followed the UN but Canada is the worst off due to the housing crisis which was in the making for the past 20 years but Trudeau took it to the new extreme. To use an analogy he put gas on fire. A majority of Canada's inflation is due to very high housing costs and that is more a Canada problem.
I gave you a "like" on this one because I agree ALMOST totally. The only disagreement is with "he cannot be worse than Trudeau". You might even be right on THAT one, but given PP's disgusting history I'll only believe it if I see it.
At least you did. I did say Trudeau is a soft dictator, look at what his Bill C-11 is doing, I will not backtrap on that. Freezing bank accounts is the act of a dictator (there is a difference, I said it is an act). We can agree to disagree.
Again, I can't disagree on the housing point, but Canada's OVERALL inflation is far from the world's worst.
I go back to what I said, then Like_It_Hot started posting stuff looking for bugs in a forest. Lets see what Poilievre does then we can discuss here, till then for me everyone is innocent till proven guilty. Ten years of Trudeau, it is time for a change.
I can't believe what I'm writing, but yes, I pretty much agree again. It is definitely time for a change, indeed that time is long overdue. My fear however is and always has been that PP will be a total disaster. Why oh why couldn't the Cons find someone decent? Sadly both Canada and the USA seem unable to find top notch leaders for their main parties, so it becomes a case of having to choose between the lesser of two evils.
I agree which why I do not have much faith in the government. I think all politicians are scum. And your last sentence is golden, choosing the lesser of two evils. Is why I am choosing Poilievre, I personally do not think he will be much better, but only time will tell how he will be compared to Trudeau. They all make promises during election time then once elected they change on dime.
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