Opinions on Agence SPs giving Phone Numbers.

[Artvandelay_importer]

Hi everyone,

Not sure if I can ask this here, but curious to know what Merbites' opinions are on agency SPs giving phone numbers and being willing to meet out at outcalls.

Is it generally considered unethical, or is it just the standard way indies meet outside after they leave agencies? Also, now they won't have the agency protection too. Any red flag here? Appreciate all your opinions. Thanks!

 

[LeDodo]

I would be happy to meet her outside the agency if she wants to.

Also "ethic" wise that must be a public secret ...
It might be a way to build regulars and maybe move onto Indy.

 

[CokeMentos]

I've alrdy exchange Phone number whit a couple SP(after a while), but never booked whitout the agency, thats the line i dont cross

 

[Artvandelay_importer]

I would be happy to meet her outside the agency if she wants to.

Also "ethic" wise that must be a public secret ...
It might be a way to build regulars and maybe move onto Indy.

Thanks, it being a public secret is what I thought too.

 

[Artvandelay_importer]

I've alrdy exchange Phone number whit a couple SP(after a while), but never booked whitout the agency, thats the line i dont cross

Thanks, makes sense with regards to ethics. But I think it is a very thin line and I am conflicted about what to do lol. Because it might be a way to build regulars and maybe move on to Indy?

 

[CokeMentos]

Thanks, makes sense with regards to ethics. But I think it is a very thin line and I am conflicted about what to do lol. Because it might be a way to build regulars and maybe move on to Indy?

not to scared anyone, but when i was younger i was the dude knocking at the door when those things was caught red-handed.... Believe me when i say this, if an SP wanna build her circle it's totally fine, but when $$$ is stolen from an agency, it's another story

 

[CLOUD 500]

This is a new trend of escorts doing Indy and working at the agency at the same time. Clearly a way for the girl to build regulars. If she gave you her number is because she might have plans to go Indy.

 

[Johnsnarky]

not to scared anyone, but when i was younger i was the dude knocking at the door when those things was caught red-handed.... Believe me when i say this, if an SP wanna build her circle it's totally fine, but when $$$ is stolen from an agency, it's another story

if she fully books either way when she works at the agency then what money is stolen if she decides to see someone on her own on her normal day off?

 

[CokeMentos]

if she fully books either way when she works at the agency then what money is stolen if she decides to see someone on her own on her normal day off?

things was really different back in the day thats all. You could be suprise what people could do for their piece of the pie

 

[Halloween Mike]

things was really different back in the day thats all. You could be suprise what people could do for their piece of the pie

Thats another way of saying harder control by the criminalized world.

Agencies are suppose to work for the SP and not the other way around. The only "stolen money" that can apply here is if the agency booked the call and she don't pay the agency cut.

If she booked a call herself on the side its totally her right and there is nothing stolen. What you describe here is litterally sexual exploitation. The agency do not "own" the SP.

While i believe you totally on what you have written i don't think its a good idea to post it publicly especially in 2026 when we have a lot more awareness to the industry.

Don't get me wrong i respect agencies and im not gonna go out of my way to bypass them, but if an SP offer me her phone number and tell me she prefer to book me directly, i am gonna respect her wish as well.

 

[Artvandelay_importer]

@Artvandelay_importer

You created a very similar thread last year

https://merb.cc/xenforo/threads/is-this-a-red-flag-appreciate-any-input.243359/#post-1732143

I thought those concerns were resolved

Sorry, true, I created that, and my concerns were resolved . My question is from an ethical point of view .

 

[Fradi]

Sorry, true, I created that, and my concerns were resolved . My question is from an ethical point of view .

Ethical?
Agencies are glorified modern day pimps.
I don’t see girls from agencies but if I did I would have no ethical bad feelings what so ever of the lady meeting outside the agency and keeping the whole amount and cutting the agency out.
You really think agencies like XO were even the slightest bit ethical towards these women.

 

[AnthonyAnderson]

@Artvandelay_importer

You created a very similar thread last year

https://merb.cc/xenforo/threads/is-this-a-red-flag-appreciate-any-input.243359/#post-1732143

I thought those concerns were resolved

He's not called Detective for no reason!

 

[LC18]

Some of you are way too scared of agency owners

 

[Halloween Mike]

Some of you are way too scared of agency owners

I don't think anyone is "scared" of agency owners in the pure sense of the word. They likely just "scared" of falling out of their good graces.

I understand this. You want the best business relationship possible with agencies. Its 50/50. They see you as a good client and you can book "easily".

I never been a "huge client" myself as in never weekly or such yet i did felt at a point due to reliability, GTs, reputation etc i was considered a "vip" at agencies. But somehow i feel agencies "outgrown" me as in they became so big they didn't "need" anything from me anymore so i became just another regular client...

Could be due to change in management too in some cases but the point is like in any businesses when one part need another they will go out of their way to please them.

Right now agencies are huge in Montreal. They hold a good share of the business. So they are in power. Just logic.

 

[DetectiveBOOBS]

I have a couple of regulars I see outside the agency. They keep the whole cut to themselves I prefer it this way as well as dealing with the middle man. More flexible hours, I’m not part of the revolving door and it just feels more ethical let’s say.

Just make sure you know the girl well enough. I had one incident where I booked her for two hours and she was gone when I was in the shower. I checked their website shortly after and she also vanished from there.

 

[Anong]

I saw a lady few times through a small agency and liked her service. At the same time she was advertising on LL as an Indy and her donations were about $120 more than agency. I took her number from LL and texted to see her and mentioned that I already saw her few times and she recognized me. She answered that better I should see her through the agency. I do not think she was scared but due to "ethics"

 

[Julia Sky]

not to scared anyone, but when i was younger i was the dude knocking at the door when those things was caught red-handed.... Believe me when i say this, if an SP wanna build her circle it's totally fine, but when $$$ is stolen from an agency, it's another story

Do you not see how threatening that post sounds? The fuck, my good sir?

Unpopular opinion but : if we're going to bring up ethics, perhaps the lack of ethics lies in threatening women because they choose to work independently on their own time and to keep their own money. Perhaps this entire thread lacks ethics, because HOW is it an issue if a lady wants to see you outside of the agency? You should feel honored she likes you enough to share her number, and happy she'll get to keep the money.

Some people sound like they'd pay the agency owner to suck his dick if they could.

 

[Julia Sky]

Also "stolen money" lmao how, if the client is booking through her and she's also the one fucking him?

Remove every escort from the agency website and see how much money the agency makes on their own. Then remove agencies and see how much the escorts makes on her own.

It's almost like some people have it backwards when it comes to who steals from who

 

[LeDodo]

She answered that better I should see her through the agency. I do not think she was scared but due to "ethics"

Well, it could be a logistic issue as well? Like incall outcall.