You got me, bro. But spin this, will you? 'Hillary compares Putin to Hitler'
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...in-after-comparing-crimea-strategy-to-hitler/
Nobody 's talking about Ukraine in here.... Why?
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You got me, bro. But spin this, will you? 'Hillary compares Putin to Hitler'
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...in-after-comparing-crimea-strategy-to-hitler/
Well personally? I'm sort of at a turning point in my life..
I'm half German and half Jamaican my Great Grand Father was in the LSSAH (Leibstandarte SS Adolf Hitler) and he hated Slavs and Jews. In his notebook he wrote why he chose Canada instead of the United States to flee to... he said because "The United States is infested with venomous Jews." So, he came here still full of hatred (and was arrested) with my grandmother who also hated both. Later in life my Grandmother wasn't as concerned with Jews but still had an extreme hatred of Slavic peoples... She passed this on to my Mother and my Mother passed it on to me.
I have never liked Slavic people, I didn't like them as a kid, I wouldn't "mingle" with them as a teenager, I would not have friends that were or "looked" Slavic... and that has carried right up until now in my adult life.
I will not even see an SP that is Slavic, or looks Slavic.
But watching this on television... is just, sad, and at the same time it made me realize that no Slavic person has ever done anything bad to me personally ...
The hatred that Adolf Hitler conjured up in Germany has gone on for 4 generations in my family...
So it's bad, but, for me... it's an event that has made me think about my own prejudices.
I'm half German and half Jamaican my Great Grand Father was in the LSSAH (Leibstandarte SS Adolf Hitler) and he hated Slavs and Jews. In his notebook he wrote why he chose Canada instead of the United States to flee to... he said because "The United States is infested with venomous Jews." So, he came here still full of hatred (and was arrested) with my grandmother who also hated both. Later in life my Grandmother wasn't as concerned with Jews but still had an extreme hatred of Slavic peoples... She passed this on to my Mother and my Mother passed it on to me.
I have never liked Slavic people, I didn't like them as a kid, I wouldn't "mingle" with them as a teenager, I would not have friends that were or "looked" Slavic... and that has carried right up until now in my adult life.
I will not even see an SP that is Slavic, or looks Slavic.
But watching this on television... is just, sad, and at the same time it made me realize that no Slavic person has ever done anything bad to me personally ...
The hatred that Adolf Hitler conjured up in Germany has gone on for 4 generations in my family...
So it's bad, but, for me... it's an event that has made me think about my own prejudices.
The American sheeple will believe any crap that the Clinton News Network writes, especially coming from Anderson "cocksucker" Cooper. Just watch one of his famous staged events:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htQ2FE1rlks
America is still better than Russia. Culturally there is no comparison. Yes, America uses propaganda and backstabs allies when it's best for them, but, American culture is superior to Russian culture.
I believe that at times we forget just how much the modern world owes to the United States.
The anchor in question was resigning from RT America, which is run by Russia Today and has nothing to do with CNN or MSNBC. It's run by Putin's government and broacdasts his line.
It's true, reality hits us alongside the head and we learn a few things.
Putin is messing with real people's lives. They're suffering because he wants to play big man.
Give some punk clown asshole an army and you've got a punk clown asshole who is very, very dangerous. That's Putin and it's too bad regular, ordinary people have to pay the price.
Hillary Clinton is going to be the next President of the United States, like it or not, and the statements she is making now are being made with her presidency in mind. Although the issues of the Hilary presidency are for another thread, the only Republican with the charisma and talent to defeat her, Chris Christie, has been destroyed by a typical Republican "dirty tricks" scandal (George Washington Bridgegate) and no other candidate appeals to the changing US voter demographic (which the Republican party, with their "let's favor rich stuffed old white caucasian shirts" policies, has not yet figured out). It will be one or two more elections before the Republicans learn the lessons that need to be learned, meanwhile Hillary will be elected the next President and she is already making statements designed to shape her foreign policy agenda.
Hilary is going to be much tougher and more conservative in foreign policy than any of you can imagine, yet she will be a liberal on domestic and social issues.
And this is CNN:
http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/06/opinion/speedie-ukraine-far-right/index.html?hpt=hp_bn7
So after all Russians were not as paranoid as we initially thought?
Though I usually vote for democrats, there is no way I will vote for Hillary in 2016. She would be more harmful for the country than Bush and Obama combined.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/06/opinion/speedie-ukraine-far-right/index.html?hpt=hp_bn7
So after all Russians were not as paranoid as we initially thought?
Though I usually vote for democrats, there is no way I will vote for Hillary in 2016. She would be more harmful for the country than Bush and Obama combined.
Hillary will be the 45th President of the United States. We should concern ourselves with the realities of what will happen and not wishful thinking. Whether I or you want her to be President is not the issue, the issue is what will actually happen in 2016. I actually think she will be better than her two predecessor Presidents on foreign policy.
The Earth is circling the Sun; this is the fact that will be also valid in 2016. Though, I would not bet my life savings on Hillary, lol. Political life is a turbulent one and unlike her husband she has no charisma and philosophical wisdom to stay afloat in politics on her own. And yes I personally despise her. She is just street-smart, with no own ideas, deep convictions or real intellect as was shown by her term as the Secretary of State…
Don't be surprised if there is a third party that rises up in 2016. A LOT is going to happen between now and 2016, the US economy just might crash before the 2016 elections, the civil unrest that you saw in the Ukraine might migrate over to the US at that time, the second phase of Occupy Wall Street only more violent. The next crash is going to make the 2007 crash seem like a picnic, so get some popcorn and enjoy the show!
I have been waiting for this to happen since 1992. I voted for Ross Perot twice and Ralph Nader once. In truth the concept of their parties were good, but neither one of those guys was the right guy to lead a grass roots 3rd party. With the right leader it could happen.
Here is the latest, Crimea is talking about a referendum on leaving Ukraine and joining Russia. What they probably need to do is draw a line as to where the two new states will be, and tell everyone they have 60 days to move to one side or the other depending on where their sympathies lie:
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/03/06/world/europe/ukraine-russia-tensions/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
It's pretty clear that this is the endgame but let the Crimeans vote on it and then we go from there.
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/03/06/world/europe/ukraine-russia-tensions/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
It's pretty clear that this is the endgame but let the Crimeans vote on it and then we go from there.
Are the ethnic minorities, with their different cultural way of seeing women and which represent a huge part of the Democrats voters, are ready to elect a woman as Président of the USA ?
Yes, the same way a vast white majority was ready to elect a black man President in 2008. Ethnic minorities have no place else to go with their vote. They have never voted for Republicans and they vote Democrat because they are told to do so by their community leaders.
Hillary Clinton also is not viewed as a typical woman. That's because she has a secret pair of testicles hanging between her legs. She is tough as nails and smart as hell.
Elections are also about who delivers federal money to your district. That is what makes Republicans easy targets for accusations of hypocrisy. Even the most conservative Republican knows that federal money coming back in to their Congressional District = reelection, and little or no federal money= defeat. Why do you think Ted Stevens was elected again and again as a Republican senator? Because he hoodwinked his colleagues into approving the most outrageous pork barrel spending in US Congressional history: The Bridge To Nowhere. The most shining example of Republican hypocrisy on federal spending in US Congressional history, bar none, and it came from a Republican and his crooked, filthy cronies.
Well you forgot 1 possibility : the abstention.
She's quite unpleasant and probably hate men (Damn Bill !), but I'm sure the election campaign will make her look like a lovely wife and mother....
She has more character than Obama which will be far better in foregn policy.
That's kind of silly. Even in Quebec Women have only had the right to vote since 1940, and even then it took another 40 years to see any real feminine presence in the National Assembly. Before that, Men were men and Women were like keep at home servants.
It's funny how we tend to forget history relatively quickly.
That said Hilary will never be elected President of the United States. Most of her support comes from the fact that she is married to a rather charismatic and popular ex-President. It doesn't have anything to do with her per se.
I think you misunderstand the Slavic mind. They're not going to have a vote and peacefully subject themselves to the consequences of the election results. That's not going to happen.
Hello Gentlemen,
Centaurus. I need your help. I've been looking for the..."Nobody 's talking about Georgia in here.... Why?" thread, and I can't find it. I'm pretty darn good at finding threads, and of course you and Octavian would consider that matter far too important to ever delete such a thread, so I guess I'm just missing it. None of the keywords like..."GEORGIA"..."RUSSIAN INVASION"..."DEATH AND DESTRUCTION"...are bringing it up.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/...s-feeble-response-to-Russia-Georgia-conflict#
Surely you remember this tragedy in 2008. Russia moved in non-peacekeeping units, the Georgians counterattacked, Russia sent in army and airborne troops. G.W. Bush reacted by sticking his thumb up his butt, then: "Bush didn't lead an alliance of the willing to isolate Russia, undermine its economy, mine the Black Sea, provide defense guarantees and rush American military supplies to Tblisi. Instead, Dubya simply denounced Moscow's reaction using much the same language President Obama is deploying now."
Centaurus I know such a principled guy like you was absolutely outraged in 2008 with G. W. Bush in the same way you are disgusted with Obama and surely you felt like:
"The credibilities and honors of the US and Great Britain are on the line. They put their legal signatures on a piece of paper pledging they will uphold the territorial integrity of Ukraine in case it gives up its nukes. The stability of the entire world for centuries to come is at stake..."
"How would the current leaders of the US and Great Britain react?. Will they save the world or destroy it?. I know exactly what Reagan and Thatcher in the 80's would have done. Not so sure about the current 'leaders'." - CENTAURUS!
So I know you will help me find where you and Octavian were blasting Bush and Republican Conservatives for exactly the same mistakes in policy and lack of response that in your view put the stability and destiny of the world on the line.
Thanks for your help Centaurus. I know you will come through with your integrity on the line. You rock bud. :thumb:
If you think your statement accurately reflects this voting block then it's more about your view than theirs.
It's funny then that even a CNN poll of Republicans showed 25% were saying they would either definitely vote for Hillary or were seriously considering it. Since over 90% of Republicans at this point before the 2012 election were adamant in not voting for Obama even 25% for Hillary now is a huge opening comparatively.
Overall Hillary has rated extremely strongly in performance ratings, unless one is a Fox News devotee. In most definable performance areas she has rated strongly among nearly every demographic, and even some Republicans have given her quite a bit of credit.
I agree here. Bitter feelings run too deep in the whole situation for a vote to resolve the situation peacefully.
I have to agree that Christie has shown a major crack with the Bridge Gate episode that will haunt him. It's only a question of how much. At this point only Christie and Rubio come to mind versus Hillary, and I wouldn't give them anything but a weak chance unless a lot changes.
Cheers,
merlot
Centaurus. I need your help. I've been looking for the..."Nobody 's talking about Georgia in here.... Why?" thread, and I can't find it. I'm pretty darn good at finding threads, and of course you and Octavian would consider that matter far too important to ever delete such a thread, so I guess I'm just missing it. None of the keywords like..."GEORGIA"..."RUSSIAN INVASION"..."DEATH AND DESTRUCTION"...are bringing it up.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/...s-feeble-response-to-Russia-Georgia-conflict#
Surely you remember this tragedy in 2008. Russia moved in non-peacekeeping units, the Georgians counterattacked, Russia sent in army and airborne troops. G.W. Bush reacted by sticking his thumb up his butt, then: "Bush didn't lead an alliance of the willing to isolate Russia, undermine its economy, mine the Black Sea, provide defense guarantees and rush American military supplies to Tblisi. Instead, Dubya simply denounced Moscow's reaction using much the same language President Obama is deploying now."
Centaurus I know such a principled guy like you was absolutely outraged in 2008 with G. W. Bush in the same way you are disgusted with Obama and surely you felt like:
"The credibilities and honors of the US and Great Britain are on the line. They put their legal signatures on a piece of paper pledging they will uphold the territorial integrity of Ukraine in case it gives up its nukes. The stability of the entire world for centuries to come is at stake..."
"How would the current leaders of the US and Great Britain react?. Will they save the world or destroy it?. I know exactly what Reagan and Thatcher in the 80's would have done. Not so sure about the current 'leaders'." - CENTAURUS!
So I know you will help me find where you and Octavian were blasting Bush and Republican Conservatives for exactly the same mistakes in policy and lack of response that in your view put the stability and destiny of the world on the line.
Thanks for your help Centaurus. I know you will come through with your integrity on the line. You rock bud. :thumb:
If you think your statement accurately reflects this voting block then it's more about your view than theirs.
It's funny then that even a CNN poll of Republicans showed 25% were saying they would either definitely vote for Hillary or were seriously considering it. Since over 90% of Republicans at this point before the 2012 election were adamant in not voting for Obama even 25% for Hillary now is a huge opening comparatively.
Overall Hillary has rated extremely strongly in performance ratings, unless one is a Fox News devotee. In most definable performance areas she has rated strongly among nearly every demographic, and even some Republicans have given her quite a bit of credit.
I agree here. Bitter feelings run too deep in the whole situation for a vote to resolve the situation peacefully.
I have to agree that Christie has shown a major crack with the Bridge Gate episode that will haunt him. It's only a question of how much. At this point only Christie and Rubio come to mind versus Hillary, and I wouldn't give them anything but a weak chance unless a lot changes.
Cheers,
merlot
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