No Show

[Doc Holliday]

One time, i called a crappy agency. I think the name was Ferrari. I had already seen someone that night, but felt like having company again. The girl was late, then an hour late, and so on. Finally, i went to bed. Later, i was awaken by the phone. It was the agency telling me that the girl was on her way. I told him to forget about it. He got pissed off & accused me of calling someone else. I didn't like his arrogant tone of voice & insinuations, so i hung up on him. I never called them again since that was no way to treat a paying customer.

 

[Doc Holliday]

Tammy Doll no showed on me also, but i won't be as kind as you, her excuse was also ridiculous and 100% bs but it did not ruin my night as i was able to meet another lady on my list. As it turned out Tamara probably was a no show with at least one third of her Johns. She was very unreliable.

Quite true. Which is likely why her absence from the business hasn't really been missed.

 

[Possum Trot]

I have no problem with cancellations with notification. The sooner in the day the better, of course. This happens to me perhaps every 15 or 20 appointments or so.
If you simply don't show without an e-mail or a phone call to cancel I would never attempt to rebook evr again. There are too many great women in Montreal to patronize someone who has such little regard for her clients.

 

[Toney g]

Another time, i called a crappy agency. I think the name was Ferrari. I had already seen someone that night, but felt like having company again. The girl was late, then an hour late, and so on. Finally, i went to bed. Later, i was awaken by the phone. It was the agency telling me that the girl was on her way. I told him to forget about it. He got pissed off & accused me of calling someone else. I didn't like his arrogant tone of voice & insinuations, so i hung up on him. I never called them again since that was no way to treat a paying customer.
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I also had a cancellation with ferrari agency once. These people called back almost an hour late and said that they couldnt reach that sp but had another young spanish girl that is very attractive. 45 minutes later some 18 year old chubby french girl showed up. She was one of those tough rapper style school girls with an attitude. She was upset when I told her to give me a bj for the entire 60 minutes because she was not what I was looking for. Ive never seen an sp leave with such a sore neck. It was not her fault but when the opposite girl that you asked for shows up 2 houres late, you can expect the clients to be pissed off. And unfortunately it is the girl that will probably end up paying for the agencys lack of customer service.

 

[protagoras]

The proper - and maybe sole - basis of a forum like this one is information. Even if it never occured to me I consider that a no show is the worst lack of respect that can occur.

I another forum (I think I can mention it because it's not a competitor to this one) in Brazil there's even a section called « pisada na bola » (tripping over the ball) where you can report this kind of mishap.

There are several rules and duties in this hobby: respect, trust, to behave like a gentleman, never force the other person to do was she is not enclined to do. I'd like to add this one: always called back if you're unable to respect a previous rendez-vous.

I'd like to add something else: Please notice that a no show is a very frustrating event. Unfortunately this kind of event happens very frequently to SP. How many masseuses or escorts working as indies or who are on their way to visit a customer or expecting one to visit them live the same kind of frustration when at the moment of the encounter noboby shows up. I'm sure that SP have a lot of story relating this kind of mishap: potential customers never showing up at their place.

In this trade SP have not the monopole of wrongdoings.

 

[Jman47]

There are several rules and duties in this hobby: respect, trust, to behave like a gentleman, never force the other person to do was she is not enclined to do. I'd like to add this one: always called back if you're unable to respect a previous rendez-vous.

I'd like to add something else: Please notice that a no show is a very frustrating event. Unfortunately this kind of event happens very frequently to SP. How many masseuses or escorts working as indies or who are on their way to visit a customer or expecting one to visit them live the same kind of frustration when at the moment of the encounter noboby shows up. I'm sure that SP have a lot of story relating this kind of mishap: potential customers never showing up at their place.

In this trade SP have not the monopole of wrongdoings.

Hello protagoras,

I have been following this thread and I had this very same thought. As with any story the intelligent person realizes there are always two sides to the equation in any transaction. While as clients we feel the pain of a no show or a cancellation and so much of that has been expressed here...what about the ladies? I am sure that it is a frequent occurrence for them also...and often certainly with no call.

I believe, as you mention that the pendulum of respect in this business transaction must swing both ways and if one party or the other cannot fulfill the commitment to meet, then the respect of a call / notice must be given. To me it also shows the value of dealing with providers who have good reputations and with people who are true to their commitments. Sometimes the value of integrity is so often overlooked.

I know to ask or see any sp's or agencies comment here would be unrealistic as it could negatively impact their business...but it would be cool to see. Regardless, I believe it is important that we recognize and acknowledge that the issue effects the ladies too and thank you for mentioning it.

Have fun,

Jman

 

[protagoras]

Thanks to your comment Jman47

As far as possible I tend to be impartial. In order to feel equanimity it's mandatory to always consider both sides of a problem. In that case it's obviuous that no show is a pain in the ass but as I mention - and your comment goes in the same direction - SP are more often victims than us when it comes to no show.

 

[CS Martin]

Thanks to your comment Jman47

As far as possible I tend to be impartial. In order to feel equanimity it's mandatory to always consider both sides of a problem. In that case it's obviuous that no show is a pain in the ass but as I mention - and your comment goes in the same direction - SP are more often victims than us when it comes to no show.

Don't agree. I've been stood up by Kim, Tamara & FKS (who actually tried to pull their patented last minute switch routine on me). In all cases, I either grew to wish I hadn't either called or pursued the matter. Basic premise, if someone doesn't have the courtesy to show or take care of the matter they're not worth the time. Admittingly, I pulled a last minute cancellation on a prebooked New Year's Eve with Vicky Vix (Yes, I know my loss). But I did wire her $350 as a cancellation fee, so she still answers my call......LOL

 

[Special K]

Admittingly, I pulled a last minute cancellation on a prebooked New Year's Eve with Vicky Vix (Yes, I know my loss). But I did wire her $350 as a cancellation fee, so she still answers my call......LOL

Wow, that's a classy move CSM, I don't think there's many people here that would do the same. Bravo!

 

[Jman47]

Wow, that's a classy move CSM, I don't think there's many people here that would do the same. Bravo!

I agree SK, very classy move by CSM. Goes to the whole integrity thing.

 

[protagoras]

It maybe a classy move but the million dollar question is, if she had of cancelled out on him what would she do to compensate him, would she offer a free hour or two as a make up. This is not directed at Vicky but to any indie in the biz. I assume that Vicky did not have a cancellation fee but there are some that do, so what do these ladies do when they cancel. I have never cancelled out on a lady, not once not ever, but 4 or 5 ladies have cancelled on me and i never got so much as a poke in the eye with a pointed stick It does go both ways.

Good question Jeff Jones.

It occured to me that I was cancelled at the last time by garotas in Brazil. Habitually when you contact them again they will give something back more like, for example, a per noite (all night long) for the price of an hour session. It occured to me several times. Different hobbying practices...I know.

 

[CS Martin]

It maybe a classy move but the million dollar question is, if she had of cancelled out on him what would she do to compensate him, would she offer a free hour or two as a make up. This is not directed at Vicky but to any indie in the biz. I assume that Vicky did not have a cancellation fee but there are some that do, so what do these ladies do when they cancel. I have never cancelled out on a lady, not once not ever, but 4 or 5 ladies have cancelled on me and i never got so much as a poke in the eye with a pointed stick It does go both ways.

Thanks to all for the nice comments. The move wasn't meant to be classy or prove a point. Bottom line is Vicky was not planning on working that evening and I actually convinced her into it. So when I was forced to cancel, I simply calculated if she worked for an agency that night on some calls she'd come out even (along with the $$$ I gave her). I figured no harm no foul, except she wasn't going to get the nice dinner She has been most gracious about it.

On my side, I was really looking forward to having some fun with her. So it was my loss of a fun oportunity. So far Vicky seems to have a better head on her shoulders than most of the rest.

On the other point, the issue of SP's who treat us as "human cash registers" is a sore one and is only encouraged by those on this board who keep giving the SPs the "benefit of the doubt" or believe their sob stories. Two particular young SPs on this board are the biggest and most "Notorious" scam & ripoff artists out there. Yet they continue to enjoy the protection of their white knights and those clients too pussywhipped to stand up for themselves. It's my opinion that those ladies who take clients money and either don't render services or pay the funds back are no better than theives. They should be outed as such. I realize the Moderators here don't agree and believe this board exists purely to review escorts only. I believe this subject is part of the review, as is their credibility. Other boards do label scam artists as such.

SP's should be treated with the upmost respect, as long as they respond in kind. Their job is extremely tough. Sit down in the quiet for an hour one evening and try to visualize what they go through........most unplesant a good part of the time. Respect is a two way street.

 

[Merlot]

On the other point, the issue of SP's who treat us as "human cash registers" is a sore one and is only encouraged by those on this board who keep giving the SPs the "benefit of the doubt" or believe their sob stories. Two particular young SPs on this board are the biggest and most "Notorious" scam & ripoff artists out there. Yet they continue to enjoy the protection of their white knights and those clients too pussywhipped to stand up for themselves. It's my opinion that those ladies who take clients money and either don't render services or pay the funds back are no better than theives. They should be outed as such. I realize the Moderators here don't agree and believe this board exists purely to review escorts only. I believe this subject is part of the review, as is their credibility. Other boards do label scam artists as such.

SP's should be treated with the upmost respect, as long as they respond in kind. Their job is extremely tough. Sit down in the quiet for an hour one evening and try to visualize what they go through........most unplesant a good part of the time. Respect is a two way street.

Hello CS,

On the subject, while cancellations are inevitable there's no excuse for either a cancellation or no-show without explanation. Not only is this bad manners, it displays a very poor attitude towards business commitments. Such persons should be exposed once the circumstances are clear.

On your point, I generally agree with most of what you said. But I also find the indicated attitude of a fair percentage of clients on this point highly hypocritical. You're right. Bad escorts should be outed. Still, I've seen many posts on this board where the attitude of the client towards the escort is to see her as little more than a paid sex toy without feelings sometimes to be squeezed for every possible service...sometimes regardless of her wishes...sometimes with coercion, and any escort who might want to out a bad client must deal with business risks no client has to face. Since this is an escort...not a client...review board fairness may be irrelevant, but the reality is noteworthy.

Cheers,

Merlot

 

[Mod 8]

Hello CS,

We have no objection to scam artists or rip off artists being exposed on MERB as long as it is done in a timely manner and not injected into a current discussion of a different event involving a different person. Bringing up disputes from 6 months, a year ago or more that should have been resolved by now is pointless unless it involves a current issue and can be used to establish a pattern of behavior. MERB should not be used to settle accounts, get revenge or continue disagreements from the past that should be settled personally.

MERB is a review board for all reviews, good or bad. Both are just as useful in helping other members determine who to see and where to spend their money.

On the other point, the issue of SP's who treat us as "human cash registers" is a sore one and is only encouraged by those on this board who keep giving the SPs the "benefit of the doubt" or believe their sob stories. Two particular young SPs on this board are the biggest and most "Notorious" scam & ripoff artists out there. Yet they continue to enjoy the protection of their white knights and those clients too pussywhipped to stand up for themselves. It's my opinion that those ladies who take clients money and either don't render services or pay the funds back are no better than theives. They should be outed as such. I realize the Moderators here don't agree and believe this board exists purely to review escorts only. I believe this subject is part of the review, as is their credibility. Other boards do label scam artists as such.

SP's should be treated with the upmost respect, as long as they respond in kind. Their job is extremely tough. Sit down in the quiet for an hour one evening and try to visualize what they go through........most unplesant a good part of the time. Respect is a two way street.

 

[Jman47]

Hello CS,

On the subject, while cancellations are inevitable there's no excuse for either a cancellation or no-show without explanation. Not only is this bad manners, it displays a very poor attitude towards business commitments. Such persons should be exposed once the circumstances are clear.

On your point, I generally agree with most of what you said. But I also find the indicated attitude of a fair percentage of clients on this point highly hypocritical. You're right. Bad escorts should be outed. Still, I've seen many posts on this board where the attitude of the client towards the escort is to see her as little more than a paid sex toy without feelings sometimes to be squeezed for every possible service...sometimes regardless of her wishes...sometimes with coercion, and any escort who might want to out a bad client must deal with business risks no client has to face. Since this is an escort...not a client...review board fairness may be irrelevant, but the reality is noteworthy.

Cheers,

Merlot

Merlot,
Very well said...I agree with all of your points and could not have said it too much better. Your point relative to bad behavior by clients is also well made. Treating a lady right and with respect is not being a white knight, its being a gentleman and a good person. In my opinion those not doing that should also be exposed...but I believe the ladies have a way to share that info.

CS,
I absolutely agree that the "scam artists" and escorts who lack a commitment to their appointments should be exposed. The first are as you described nothing but thieves. The second do nothing but waste our time and it should not be tolerated. If the matter is exposed promptly and is happening frequently enough, then nothing a "white knight" says will have any credibility and he too will be exposed. Both incidentally can be done respectfully and professionally.

JJ,
To your point...each if these ladies/agencies has a business to run. Customer satisfaction should be a priority...within reason. That said I believe that any reputable indy or agency has or would compensate an established client for an unforeseen problem or cancellation. I know in happens. It is the right thing to do. To that point is exactly why I made the comment to CS - I believe he did the right thing in his situation only in reverse - it showed a great deal of class.

To try to wrap this up...

• Never play the fool, because a fool and his money are soon parted. In a cash business the old saying is no tickee, no laundry.
• Treat people with respect and you will usually get the same.
• Reputation is key to anything. It is what belongs to each of us. Good reputation will reap benefits...a bad reputation can come back to haunt you.
• Do business with people you trust...who have earned your trust...and you will rarely be disappointed.

Have fun,

Jman

 

[Turbodick]

No shows are a sign that you've been passed over for something more lucrative, or that the the greed of the booker supercededs any respect for your time. IMHO this is one of the worst infractions since we are trained to be patient and wait around for periods which can be lengthy and a late knock on the door is still an occasion to cause one to forget the lied-about timeframe.