Motel bust??

[h20]

Can you really get busted at an incall that takes place in a motel? What are the chances of a receptionist or neighbors getting suspicious and calling the cops.

 

[Thor Jr]

Sounds like you want to give an incall a try and your nervous about the repercussions, what will the neighbors say to the cops, " i think the people next door are having intercourse for money"? Its rare that you can get busted in a motel, not saying its impossible but in any reference its rare.

Thor Jr

 

[h20]

Sounds like you want to give an incall a try and your nervous about the repercussions, what will the neighbors say to the cops, " i think the people next door are having intercourse for money"? Its rare that you can get busted in a motel, not saying its impossible but in any reference its rare.

Thor Jr

Damn you read my mind but has it ever happened in Montreal though?

 

[h20]

[The way to avoid incall risk from a sting perspective is to see reviewed escorts, whether that is in the US or Canada].


Is there still risk if you happen to know the sp?

 

[johnywalker8647]

Realistically, the legal risks for incall are negligible, but certainly higher than for outcall. Law enforcement activity in Montreal in this area is too small (basically nonexistent) to produce a meaningful sample size, so the US data is more useful. Cops in the States set up sting operations for incall, not outcall, for john busts. They are simply not going to send a wired female cop into a hotel room alone, and since they do not know which customers are going to call an escort, they cannot just rent the room next door and set up,listening devices. But they will use female cops as bait for incall, since backup can be placed a few feet away. The way to avoid incall risk from a sting perspective is to see reviewed escorts, whether that is in the US or Canada.

Of course the real risk of incall, if surveillance is occurring, is being stopped outside the motel afterwards. Cops do not bust through hotel doors and make prostitution arrests. That is just TV shit that never happens. But in the US, they will stop guys leaving a place, including low-rent motels, and ask him questions. Particularly if they notice (or lie about noticing) a traffic violation. They give him the opportunity to fuck up. If he is not a guest, why was he there? If he was visiting a registered guest, please give us her real name. We hear a lot of drugs are sold at that motel, so we might just search your car for drugs, is that okay? Pretty soon, the poor blubbering guy spills the beans.

So in the US, outcall is way safer than incall for johns. And nice hotels in city centers with foot traffic from conventions, shops, and restaurants are much safer for incall than low-rent motels. All of this of course increases the economic outlay for the guy getting the room, or for the escort staying at a nice city-center convention hotel.

What about the scenario of an outcall agency getting busted and your address found in their records ?

 

[daydreamer41]

What about the scenario of an outcall agency getting busted and your address found in their records ?

I say move.

 

[BookerL]

What about the scenario of an outcall agency getting busted and your address found in their records ?

I would say !What about it ?
https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Canadian_Criminal_Law/Proof_of_Elements
In a Criminal trial, the crown will present evidence that will tend to establish the offence charged. Each offence in the Criminal Code is broken down into "elements" that comprise the offence. Each element must be proven beyond a reasonable doubt before a judge can consider making a verdict of guilt.

Cheers





Booker

 

[johnywalker8647]

It does not prove a thing. It is not illegal to hire an escort.

Now if the customer did something stupid, like emailing and texting regarding specific sex acts like BBBJTC, then it would appear that sex for money might have taken place.

Of course the wrinkle with c-36 is that the escort, if she is compelled to do so, can testify regarding whether or not sex for money occurred. Which is why the actual physical evidence of sex such as the used condom, and circumstantial evidence such as written communications in emails/texts regarding sex acts, are so undesirable.

But realistically, the primary focus of US law enforcement a few years ago was shutting down escort services that operated across state lines. A ton of customer lists were seized, but the only actions taken were against the US escort services, even though many of those customer lists detailed the services the customers liked.

Names on a list mean very little, if for no other reason than the fact that they can be made up. If a list includes Mackay himself and says he enjoys some bizarre fetish, do you think the police are going to go question him, or assume that the information is fake? If the police start excluding some targets and not others, it creates bad publicity for them.

It isn't illegal to hire an escort for companionship, but let's say an agency was busted for providing sexual services. Your address being found in the records of an agency known to provide sexual services for a consideration give the cops reasonable doubts to lay charges. It's up to judges and prosecutors to prove it not the cops.

 

[johnywalker8647]

I would say !What about it ?
https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Canadian_Criminal_Law/Proof_of_Elements
In a Criminal trial, the crown will present evidence that will tend to establish the offence charged. Each offence in the Criminal Code is broken down into "elements" that comprise the offence. Each element must be proven beyond a reasonable doubt before a judge can consider making a verdict of guilt.

Cheers





Booker

True, but again this i the job of judges and courts not cops. Cops have reasonable doubts to lay charges as they found your address in the record of an agency known to provide sexual services.so there is the risk to be charged

 

[BookerL]

Cops have reasonable doubts to lay charges as they found your address in the record of an agency known to provide sexual services.so there is the risk to be charged

Hello johnywalker8647

A popular saying "its not what the Cops knows,its what they can prove "

Well its very technical !Police does have discretionary power of arrest .But there is a large step in between arresting and charging someone .

More important crimes are being committed ,crown attorneys are overworked .Solid evidence is required in court to make it stick .
If the only evidence they have is your address and nothing else ,it is very unlikely they will proceed to trial based only on that .
As for myself I would not be uncomfortable with that situation ,I have been in much worst !


Cheers





Booker

 

[Thor Jr]

Listen guys, if you are in doubt and it may cause you stress, stick to tinder and other sites that may get you what you want, you may go and try to see an SP and after a few times you are comfortable, but to go and every time you here a noise or a knock here and there and your uncomfortable and it ruins your time, i was there a long time ago, but its rare to find yourself in trouble because your so friggin horny or just a pervert in general. lol. Do it and enjoy yourself, you are safe as long as you dont book a room in a police station. lol

Thor Jr