jessy i don't know about such things as a ban, but it seems to me with this public revelation that you have seriously violated the confidentiality of this client and i venture to say that all past and future clients must question their privacy and trust with you.
Merc Advertiser Boycott Starts December 1
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jessy i don't know about such things as a ban, but it seems to me with this public revelation that you have seriously violated the confidentiality of this client and i venture to say that all past and future clients must question their privacy and trust with you.
are you just accepting what people are posting that out there as being factual?
i presume that you believe (based on your post) that the boycott is directed at sd/msc whereas this is clearly not the case, as its aimed at all agencies and independents who advertise on merc.
you business acumen leaves something to be desired because what jessy has done is open up the very issue that us hobbyists care the most about, our privacy with regards to who we've seen.
may be many out there who are now saying to themselves, no way will i call sd/msc because if they are stupid enough let their emotions loose in this way, then how can i trust that they are smart enough to protect my communication info (tel #'s/email addy ) or worse my home address.
in conclusion, you are accepting that jessy's business is down due to some boycott by 2 individuals. not likely that many out there are following this or any other duo but rather the downturn in her business falls directly at the feet of jessy/peter themselves for their choices of women who they work with.
Thank you Gugu
I will still reply in detail to Jessy's post, since she so kindly opened the door. There is one difference: My post will not be disingenuous
. If there is one thing I have learned since engaging in forums, it's the propensity of posters to partly quote a post, conversation or action out of context to put their "opponent" in a bad light. It is a loathsome practice that eventually comes back to bite you, and I will not engage in it.
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Gugu, a lot of things you said in your post, I could not have said better.
I will still reply in detail to Jessy's post, since she so kindly opened the door. There is one difference: My post will not be disingenuous
. If there is one thing I have learned since engaging in forums, it's the propensity of posters to partly quote a post, conversation or action out of context to put their "opponent" in a bad light. It is a loathsome practice that eventually comes back to bite you, and I will not engage in it.Back soon!
Be careful what you wish for Jff...any and I repeat any breach of privacy by an "agency owner" is a reprehensible, inexcusable offense!!!
I see nothing unsual in an agency thanking or NOT thanking a clients use of their services. Perhaps it was not done in a subtle way.
Yikes,
When I said at the very beginning of this that I would never boycott Jessy or Montreal Sex City while supporting the boycott I was called toothless and self-serving. Considering the above...OMG! Well, if I hadn't dropped out of the boycott yesterday...DAMN!
As I said elsewhere, I seriously doubt this boycott has had real any real effectiveness or a significant impact affecting agency income, especially in view of the revelation in the first quote.
Cheers,
Merlot
When I said at the very beginning of this that I would never boycott Jessy or Montreal Sex City while supporting the boycott I was called toothless and self-serving. Considering the above...OMG! Well, if I hadn't dropped out of the boycott yesterday...DAMN!
As I said elsewhere, I seriously doubt this boycott has had real any real effectiveness or a significant impact affecting agency income, especially in view of the revelation in the first quote.
Cheers,
Merlot
Deconstructing Jessy
Ok, so between the end of January and the third week of April, we tried that approach, as we had privately discussed. And here we are indeed…Montreal Sex City said:
I did not create any personal “matter” as you say: Tony in his sick mind got a hate-on for me for reasons best left out here (girl’s security) and chose to accuse me of BBFS and publicly divulge my residence area to within a few blocks. The administration of the so-called MERC “forum” took no action to remove the post or discipline the poster.Montreal Sex City said:
A) As a known and good client of yours at the time (and a friend of Alissa as well), I was not in the best position to play white knight there, and you know it. Anything coming from me over there on the subject would have fueled their flames. B) These clowns change targets all the time: back then you got slammed for enforcing an all-GFE crew, recently they dug up the past and slammed Alissa as an agency rule-breaker. The height of hypocrisy…Montreal Sex City said:
Yes, I remember this. I was frustrated by your attitude, what can I say? You are a promoter of ethics within this community, you yourself freely admit there are large problems on MERC, yet you continue to support them financially.Montreal Sex City said:
I seem to remember differently: you said that Peter cared not an iota about all this forum stuff, that it was your purview. I retorted that his public image was at stake and he needed to be informed. In the end I decided that since I knew him I might as well call him and that is what I did.Montreal Sex City said:
Well, I spoke to Peter and it was clear he is not “up” on these forums to say the least. It also seems Tom did a fine whitewash job of it when they met.Montreal Sex City said:
Several problems here: MERC is a known cesspool. MERC (the board) has low traffic. Wouldn’t it be better to leave there and gain credibility here as the group of agencies that said “Enough!”?Montreal Sex City said:
By my reckoning, I met my first outcall escort in 1985, during the newspaper ad age. From 1991 to 1995 I was active regularly, went to the tabloid paper every week to pay for a “friend’s” ad, sat at home with her while she answered the phone and drove her to some calls. From 2006 to now, I have met a LOT of ladies, many of them on a long repeat basis. I have formed many friendships and received countless confidences. I acted as booker for a major agency and an independent girl, and designed her website.Montreal Sex City said:
As I understood the structure, SD is Peter’s and MSC is yours. I phoned Peter in regards to SD only, therefore not passing you by. Or is there something in the hierarchy of your organization that eludes me?Montreal Sex City said:
This post you made after Naomie departed SD certainly was the height of disrespect. It seems you have had the good sense to delete it…Montreal Sex City said:
Well, I am not the one here to open the can of worms about disclosing the contents of a PM on the open board, so I will disambiguate the content: The title of your PM to Rumples was “You won”… So don’t go rubbing his nose in it now.Montreal Sex City said:
As you well know but conveniently omit to say here, you and I had a conversation about the boycott and it’s effectiveness sometimes around early February. I told you I thought things had calmed down and proposed posting that the boycott was effectively over. YOU were the one to suggest not posting at all. We started to tell our friends back-channel that it was over, and yes, Rumples booked someone from your group. It is hypocritical for you to use this against Rumples in this context.Montreal Sex City said:
I don’t want to control any boards. I want a board that is totally out of control, doing unconscionable damage to people’s reputation while the board owners are fully conscious and seemingly encouraging it, reined in. If you can’t understand this then yes, you understand very little.Montreal Sex City said:
Quoted from an other thread for reasons explained below.
I respectfully disagree with your opinion, mod 11. First of all, the discussion here did not drag us down to the level of those we despise. It was made in respect of the merb posting rules, including the tacit rule against trolling: two of them have been thrown out, that’s a positive result. I think Mod 8 has done a great job and, notwithstanding your different visions, I am sure you agree with me on this.
IMHO, you are right to point out the negative energy coming out of this. I don’t like it either. But, as you know, we need to defend some important values that make it possible for this community to exist. At times it brings negative energy, but those values are too important to be pushed under the carpet.
The present issue is about the most important shared specific value of this community: the protection of privacy. There is no need to elaborate since we all know that breaches of privacy in “hobbyland” can ruin peoples’ jobs and family life.
One highly respected member of this community, Sapman, has come under a privacy attack lately. The reason? For less then a year, he worked as a booker. Who’s business is that? How are we concerned here? He did not write any review while being a booker. That is his private life.
Had he done some shilling while being a booker — and I insist, he did not — it would not have been a ground to justify disclosing nominal information about him, which was done by his accuser, supported by the only troll remaining on this forum: Eastender. That is purely, simply, UNACCEPTABLE. The consequences of shilling are to have your HANDLE exposed to the world, banishment from the forum and control of IP to monitor further activity on the forum. No one has the right to expose nominal information, even of shills.
DT has committed the error, an irreparable error. Someone may change a handle, but he cannot rebuild his identity without tremendous cost. Erasing a thread does not repair the error.
This case deserves our attention as a community. The issue has nothing to do with old friends quarrels contrary to what the troll — Eastender — tries to put in peoples mind. The accused guy has had no previous relations to his accusors.
I, for myself, know none of these guys personally. DT has been after me for years, using all possible ways, including the use of sex workers and a merc moderator, to extract nominal informations on individuals that are part of this world. He has blackmailed me on numerous occasions getting the same result time after time: “repartir la queue entre les deux jambes”.
Tom is sheltering this activity on his forum: the collection of private, nominal informations on clients and sex workers.
I think this is a concern for this community as whole, including the members of MERC, the advertisers of MERC and all the people who do not have or take time to look thoroughly into these matters.
My personal opinion is that Tom should shut down MERC. Meanwhile, I see no reason to stop boycotting their advertisers, until DT is thrown out and that we are given the assurance that these activities have stopped.
is the list of advertisers updated?
And why not leave 'vicky vix' out of it..lol, but of course that would be favouritism..
just another thought while im here.. Its no secret that most of the 'merbs.elite.rejected.critics' boards advertisers are made up of overweight ladies ( also affectionately known as bbw )
Their business must be tough enough as it is? they might not be able to survive a boycott if alot of people actually participated.
thats not fair to them ..so i vote leaving out 'vicky vix', and the 'bbw' squad.
You also shouldnt boycott any advertiser that advertises on both boards.. Stick to those that advertise strictly on that board if you must.
And why not leave 'vicky vix' out of it..lol, but of course that would be favouritism..
just another thought while im here.. Its no secret that most of the 'merbs.elite.rejected.critics' boards advertisers are made up of overweight ladies ( also affectionately known as bbw )
Their business must be tough enough as it is? they might not be able to survive a boycott if alot of people actually participated.
thats not fair to them ..so i vote leaving out 'vicky vix', and the 'bbw' squad.
You also shouldnt boycott any advertiser that advertises on both boards.. Stick to those that advertise strictly on that board if you must.
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Thanks for your thoughtful post, Gugu. I agree with everything you've said here, though the piece I've quoted should go one step further. All traces of DT should be thoroughly deleted from the MERC servers. Nothing that any Google spider could possibly index should remain.
There are a few things that baffle me, to wit:
1. Why does Tom let Ziggy run free? It's now common knowledge that Tom's antipathy towards merb dates to personal information that was linked to on merb by none other than Ziggy himself. This information was removed by the mods and Ziggy banned. The traffic Ziggy brings to merc is well more than offset by the trouble his actions cause Tom.
2. Why is Ziggy's waking life consumed with you, me and Sapman? Why the obsession? Me? I'm just an occasional hobbyist. I see a couple of girls a month, write a review or two, and post about a zillion posts in the baseball thread. Ziggy, when I'm not posting, does not enter my mind. I don't lose sleep over him as he clearly does over us. I don't wake in the night wondering what bullshit I can sling his way as he clearly does over us. I don't get emotionally wrought over the gibberish he posts. I don't spend 4-5-6 hours a day researching private information on him as he does on us. He is nothing to me, yet I am a prominent figure in his shell of an existence. In fact, before last week when Ziggy published Sapman's address and phone number, I hadn't even looked at merc in a couple of months.
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I'll take care of this in the next day or so. This time I'd like to highlight those that also advertise here and I think they should be our main focus. As for Vicky, why don't you speak with her about cancelling her advertising there? Not only is her advertising there a waste of money, given the shitty ROI, but the clientele she might get from merc is primarily composed of the type of lowlife she really doesn't want to see.
(BTW, I do share your fondness for Vicky, though I haven't seen her in 4-5 years.)
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Hello guys,
Warning:
There is a possibility that Mod9/Agentleman27 is a threat to pass out private information that only mods have access to. He is not only in direct daily control of allowing all the personal threats and the posting of privacy invasions by others while banning dissent, he has made the same slanders as Ziggy and Dee toward Techman and myself, while attacking Gugu, Sapman, and the green mods under the A27 name, and he has also threatened to post photos of Merb members he has met. While I know he really has no photos, his allowances of gross abuses (by Ziggy, Dee, Tony), his own posting of abuses, and his willingness to threaten to publish private identities shows he has every attitude making him capable of passing out any private information he can access as a mod, as he continues to make gross innuendos.
Of course all of this is at the behest of Tom, but Mod9/A27 has stayed despite every abuse, thus displaying his willingness to participate and promote it all, while making his own ugly contributions adding to the offenses. He has consistently showed every aspect of full cooperation, so passing out private information would be consistent with his actions thus far.
Back to the main point:
Gugu, no one can deny every justification is there to fight back and defend ourselves. As you have seen, I have been there with you, and I like you have the instinct and compulsion to fight back. But despite the fact that your rationale is perfectly sound to keep fighting back, Mod11 is perfectly right. We can fight back and justify it all, but we will always be spinning our wheels by using this board to go after them. We have become adult children bickering back and forth, until, except for the gross legally actionable offense they have made, it is clear that bystanders reading these boards who have nothing invested here can hardly see the difference in the bickering sides any more.
The trouble with trying to clean up trash that never ends is eventually you stink just as bad...and that is the goal the blueboys are after. Despite our right to self-defense we are just immersing ourselves deeper into the whole stinking mess. And in doing so tensions heighten, emotions boil, and there is the grave risk that out of sheer frustration someone will post something just as ruthless about individual privacy as we are fighting against. That's the trap, and that is the opportunity the blue trolls are hoping for. This is not what Merb is for and the best way is legal action.
It's pretty hard to believe that a guy like Ziggy who could choose to do so much else in his life with all of his options has degenerated to inflicting slander and pursuing private lives to satisfy his addiction to attention...on a sex board.
peeeuuuuu,
Merlot
Warning:
There is a possibility that Mod9/Agentleman27 is a threat to pass out private information that only mods have access to. He is not only in direct daily control of allowing all the personal threats and the posting of privacy invasions by others while banning dissent, he has made the same slanders as Ziggy and Dee toward Techman and myself, while attacking Gugu, Sapman, and the green mods under the A27 name, and he has also threatened to post photos of Merb members he has met. While I know he really has no photos, his allowances of gross abuses (by Ziggy, Dee, Tony), his own posting of abuses, and his willingness to threaten to publish private identities shows he has every attitude making him capable of passing out any private information he can access as a mod, as he continues to make gross innuendos.
Of course all of this is at the behest of Tom, but Mod9/A27 has stayed despite every abuse, thus displaying his willingness to participate and promote it all, while making his own ugly contributions adding to the offenses. He has consistently showed every aspect of full cooperation, so passing out private information would be consistent with his actions thus far.
Back to the main point:
Gugu, no one can deny every justification is there to fight back and defend ourselves. As you have seen, I have been there with you, and I like you have the instinct and compulsion to fight back. But despite the fact that your rationale is perfectly sound to keep fighting back, Mod11 is perfectly right. We can fight back and justify it all, but we will always be spinning our wheels by using this board to go after them. We have become adult children bickering back and forth, until, except for the gross legally actionable offense they have made, it is clear that bystanders reading these boards who have nothing invested here can hardly see the difference in the bickering sides any more.
The trouble with trying to clean up trash that never ends is eventually you stink just as bad...and that is the goal the blueboys are after. Despite our right to self-defense we are just immersing ourselves deeper into the whole stinking mess. And in doing so tensions heighten, emotions boil, and there is the grave risk that out of sheer frustration someone will post something just as ruthless about individual privacy as we are fighting against. That's the trap, and that is the opportunity the blue trolls are hoping for. This is not what Merb is for and the best way is legal action.
It's pretty hard to believe that a guy like Ziggy who could choose to do so much else in his life with all of his options has degenerated to inflicting slander and pursuing private lives to satisfy his addiction to attention...on a sex board.
peeeuuuuu,
Merlot
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You cant blame the ladies placing their advertisements according to what they feel is the most travelled avenues on the web..
'Montreal escort' on google = the 3rd result is*
'merbs.elite.rejected.critics'
The 16th is merb
And on a search of 'montreal escort reviews'
'Merbs.elite.rejected.critics' is first..*
Merb is second.
Of course this is off of iphones google.. Results may vary on desktop google.
'Montreal escort' on google = the 3rd result is*
'merbs.elite.rejected.critics'
The 16th is merb
And on a search of 'montreal escort reviews'
'Merbs.elite.rejected.critics' is first..*
Merb is second.
Of course this is off of iphones google.. Results may vary on desktop google.
However, if you look at the traffic counts, the results are quite different. Someone posted them in one of these threads not long ago; merb gets way more traffic, 2 or 3 to 1. And look at the scum that posts on reject central.
Sapman this was a fine rebuttal, i was hoping you would slip somewhere so I could knock you over the head, but you were on point dude. You will be a legend one day. Great work! Rumple owes you.
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I want a Yes or No answer. Was the boycott in place when you booked one of Jessy's girls. Yes or No answer, please don't tell me about some calming wave that suddenly overwhelmed you, only 2 months into the boycott, and shot your libido so out of the roof that it left you with no choice but to get your dick sucked by one of Jessy's girls. I got your back, just be honest! Go Rumple!
I must surrender in view of one of your argument, Merlot. Indeed, some people get quickly carried away by their emotions in these debates and it can lead to results that are damaging for some people. The worst-case scenario is when privacy attacks lead to counter privacy attacks. When we add in the psychotic factors, so easily detectable among a few belligerents, it can get pretty bad.
Here’s is my suggestion:
1 We ask mods to close all threads regarding past issues: the threats and insult thread, the M, M and MM thread, and the late sticky public response plus whatever other thread I forgot. There isn’t much to be added to these threads: points were made and most necessary responses given.
2 We leave the boycott thread open and accept a much tighter mod control over what is posted there, especially with regards to the dangers Merlot have exposed.
Of course not all members agree with the boycott. I think Rumple and Sap have made good arguments in favour of it. I also pitched in a few points along with them. Merlot and others have made good arguments against the boycott even if they share our opinion about the issue itself. Some others feel there is no problem with MERC (don’t ask me to try to explain the position of the last group.) Both side arguments are exposed in the boycott thread.
Of course, each member or reader is free to make his own decision. Some people don’t care. We won’t make them care. Most of them don’t even read this thread. The others have different levels of interest and understanding and they vote according to their own set of values. If our discussion helps a few to make their decision, the thread will have shown its utility.
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