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LeDodo

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But why would you prefer less over more???
Well less is more! :p

Joke aside, for example you'll find in PSE: DT, FF and Anal. It's a personal preference to enjoy those things. If someone don't enjoy or fancy it why would someone wants it?

Also most of the time PSE is more expensive than GFE and rightfully. So why would someone pay for more for something that someone doesn't want?

If there GFE and PSE are options it is for people to choose based on their own preferences ;-)
 

jewbro91

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But why would you prefer less over more???
It's not necessarily less. People want different things for Christmas. Some might receive a PlayStation, others might get pants. But if each of them got what they wanted why does it matter. Me I like a bit of both pse and gfe mixed into the session. It's just what we like when.
 

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I often see 'I prefer GFE over PSE' in reviews.

The different variations in the marketing use of the acronyms makes the question almost meaningless, honestly. It used to mean GFE offered french kissing and bbbj, whereas PSE would offer anal (although some included other more exotic services too). Clear and easy. Now in today's use of marketspeak it can mean almost anything. You can't even compare GFE to GFE anymore because every provider describes it as something different to suit her own preferences and now it's frequently only marketspeak instead of an actual service offering. Same for PSE. The terms' only use now is to attract eyes and customers, not as an actual consistent description of anything.

Honestly the terms are basically worthless as a service description now, since you are first still required to communicate directly with the provider to find out exactly what she means by it anyway. For all intents and purposes you may as well ignore them completely, concentrate on what you want from your provider as a service offering, and then just ask the desired provider whether she offers those services or not. Don't get bogged down too much in the marketing.
 

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The different variations in the marketing use of the acronyms makes the question almost meaningless, honestly. It used to mean GFE offered french kissing and bbbj, whereas PSE would offer anal (although some included other more exotic services too). Clear and easy. Now in today's use of marketspeak it can mean almost anything. You can't even compare GFE to GFE anymore because every provider describes it as something different to suit her own preferences and now it's frequently only marketspeak instead of an actual service offering. Same for PSE. The terms' only use now is to attract eyes and customers, not as an actual consistent description of anything.

Honestly the terms are basically worthless as a service description now, since you are first still required to communicate directly with the provider to find out exactly what she means by it anyway. For all intents and purposes you may as well ignore them completely, concentrate on what you want from your provider as a service offering, and then just ask the desired provider whether she offers those services or not. Don't get bogged down too much in the marketing.
To me, PSE means more options and generally we know what that means
 

urquell

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To me, PSE means more options and generally we know what that means
No, actually, we don't, and that's the problem. We used to know what that meant. Now we can't assume anything and we must ask each individual provider specifically what the term means to them. Virtually no two providers will agree. Of course they can offer whatever they want, and that's not an issue, but there's no single clearly understood definition right now for what either GFE or PSE means, which makes it an issue for clients. The use of the terms is just enough to attract your attention but not enough to actually give you any actionable information which you could use to choose a provider without directly consulting them anyway. It's 100% marketing.
 
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To me, PSE means more options and generally we know what that means
I agree. Gfe has a base stat and so does pse. I don't necessarily assume that it includes specific acts but more so gives the vibe of the session you will have. While I don't agree with the comments above talking about marketing, because while in some cases I get what you're trying to say but In a lot of other cases if you are booking with the right professionals gfe and pse do have their own types of status. You do need to communicate with anyone you meet. Not just for the acts but to make sure the vibe is right.

At the end of the day . Back to the actual question. Some people do like less and don't need the extra services of pse or to have hardcore sex to be fulfilled. Thus being why some people rather gfe
 

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This thread makes me want to offer less services because of the entitlement and ridiculous assumptions... Just kidding. :)

There is a reason why providers charge more for PSE services. It's not a basic service. Neither is GFE.

CIM increases STI risks for us. Greek requires preparation, you can't just stick it in there. Rough sex can be painful. Not everyone likes dirty talking, choking or slapping. For high volume providers, COF implies that you will have to reapply your makeup, and maybe some of it will get in your hair.

I'm only advertised as a GFE provider and clients always try to face fuck me or I feel pressured to try & deep throat them. I often end up feeling like I have to do it if I can stomach it. I'm not the only one who experiences this. I do not enjoy offering this type of thing. It's not because I don't advertise anal that you are allowed to do this shit to me, just because you don't want to pay someone else more for PSE. Maybe adding CIM to my services was a mistake. Should I remove it?

What are the definitions, really? Could it be that some definitions change over time?

To a lot of clients GFE means kissing, daty & bbbj which seems reasonable.


To others, it means face sucking french kissing, msog, daty & bbbj.
To some others, it may include sticking a finger up your ass or slapping it.
To many others, GFE should include other services like CIM, COB or COF, otherwise it's not worth booking.
 
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I’ve removed the extra for PSE, not because I’ve stopped offering it but just because it was never just black or white for me.

Some men are into lightly choking their partner but would probably lose their erection if they were asked to slap their partner. It was too complicated for me so I just decide to raise my rates all together and start doing a questionnaire to know what precise practices were asked.

I obviously still want to know beforehand if someone wants to slap me or cum on my face
 

urquell

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I agree. Gfe has a base stat and so does pse. I don't necessarily assume that it includes specific acts but more so gives the vibe of the session you will have. While I don't agree with the comments above talking about marketing, because while in some cases I get what you're trying to say but In a lot of other cases if you are booking with the right professionals gfe and pse do have their own types of status. You do need to communicate with anyone you meet. Not just for the acts but to make sure the vibe is right.

At the end of the day . Back to the actual question. Some people do like less and don't need the extra services of pse or to have hardcore sex to be fulfilled. Thus being why some people rather gfe
I'm sorry, but this is just wrong, if I understand you correctly GFE is not a default setting in case you don't want PSE. GFE is a specific type of service, which must be requested, just like PSE is a specific type of service. Neither is considered the "default" service in this environment, although it can work out that way with certain providers. You don't just say "I don't want PSE, so just basic GFE will be fine".

As for the rest of the post I don't know what you're trying to say. GFE and PSE have a base stat, but you don't assume that it includes specifics acts? Those are contradictory statements. GFE and PSE have a status, but only with the right professionals? What status? Who are the "right" professionals? How do you judge a vibe with someone you've never met?

Can you elaborate on this please?
 
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I often see 'I prefer GFE over PSE' in reviews.
Why????
Often I'm trying to have an experience and come out of it more relaxed, not feeling like I went 20 rounds of the most extreme acronyms possible. That doesn't mean that I don't like a PSE sesh, just that there's more a time and place for it, while I can do a GFE any time.
 

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You don't just say "I don't want PSE, so just basic GFE will be fine".

As someone who offers both, I actually get this exact message almost verbatim quite often