Face pics

[jalimon]

Just look where you are posting this. Be honest with yourself. WTF are you doing posting on a review board?

I might receive "une volee de bois vert" but I have to be honest I agree with you here.

We are buying a fantasy. A dream. Illusion. And we know perfectly well what we are doing. On the other hand you girl are putting portfolio of pics that, sorry to say, sell yourself in the most sexy and "objectificated" way (made up that word ).

We are playing the game with you girls. With respect and dignity. And much fun!

Cheers,

 

[Fradi]

This is going to be a strange post as it will probably offend people on both sides.

First both Patron and Hungry happen to be two of my favourite posters, because they don’t shy away from things and don’t want to be politically correct and say what they mean, and this is on non sex related topics as well.

Having said that I am guilty of being the exact opposite of some of the things I like about them.
We all have different tastes in women, mine is not spinners nor is it BBW, now having said that I would love to see for example Lola the Bratt and Lou Simon, I think both are sexy as hell.
I don’t criticize the women who don’t fit into my selective criteria, there is no need to, luckily there are plenty of women in Montreal who fit into what I consider gorgeous, besides as most off you already know I am kind of stuck on one who I think is amazing in every way possible.

I don’t cringe at explicit reviews as it is a review board and some may want to know all the details for booking and who knows some may get off on just reading it.
I can’t write that way and I think I can get my point across by describing the lady and her style and elegance and get my point across without going into details, nor do I think it is necessary to promote how much of a stud I am by how many OS I am capable of delivering.

I understand what Rose and the other ladies are saying and sympathize with them, I doubt that any poster here would love to have their body type described, made fun of or their bedroom capabilities as well.
But then, unfortunately this is the profession these wonderful ladies have chosen and this is almost a given to happen, some of the reviews will hurt and will be totally unfair and others will help to promote their profession and their bank account.
It cannot be so absolutely unbearable otherwise they would stop advertising on these review boards.

 

[Maria Divina]

It cannot be so absolutely unbearable otherwise they would stop advertising on these review boards.

Is this really what you think? Independent Ladies advertising here are doing it, the vast majority of time, for the lurkers that never post. A lots of ladies are banning to meet frequent writers because, well,
they are able to read and judge they wouldn't be a good match with some traits of personalities that are displayed here. They simply don't feel secure to be one-on-one with people showing some precise caracteristics.

Reviews is something necessary, only to prove that the ladies/providers are legit, to avoid scam.

The gory step-by-step details are more "necessary", let's be honest, for those that are exhibitionist & voyeurist (I know it doesn't exist in English, but that's easy to understand written this way ;-) ...)

But the position of Rose have been repeated more than once here (to respect each others difference, no need to shame other different tastes/ladies that don't appeal you) . That's "few" years I am active, and I know how the saying of a woman in here might not count. Hopefully this time, the message might get through, who knows?


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and about the face pics, I have never and will be never showing my face as I do have personal & professional goals to reach, and it is really not necessary to show our faces to be successful in this field.
You need a review then, to certify your face could be cute, or really cute, or GND, whatever.

And with the facial recognition that has become officially in some countries a day-to-day thing, I wouldn't bet that it is not OR it won't happen around us. It is clearly happening at the borders already, and there are others hints we ladies know for sure, that will red flag yourself when you visit other countries.

So glad I never show my face. I can still think to have a future without being stigmatized as an escort for the rest of my life (and being banned from some professions or countries or simply, my family)

 

[rosedelacourt]

Fradi, you don't cringe at explicit reviews because you're not the object of it. Also, the point of reviews are to convey whether or the girl is as advertised, not to provide erotica for other guys to ''get off to''. There is a website for that called ''Litterotica''. I don't think reviews are ''what's given to happen''. I've been in this business for almost five years now, I consider myself and my business quite successful. My reviews don't make me cringe. When I read those of my colleagues sometimes I do.

Reviews don't equal success as I've met incredibly successful girls across Canada who have a no-review policy. I advertise here because, after Twitter, it is the platform that brings the most traffic to my personal website, not because I agree with everything that goes on here. I also am well aware I am too muscular, too tattooed and too fat for most popular writers here. I am more than ok with that because my clientele is those who don't ''contribute'' and I know for a fact that this is also true for most girls who advertise here.

 

[Anwar]

The point of contention here seems to be the language employed in reviews, positive or not.

You can write a negative review without being bitter and acrimonious. For example, I met an SP who does not look like a model by conventional standards. That was fine by me, because I am not fixated on looks. What I didn't like about her was her dismissive attitude. She was talking to me as if I was an idiot. She and I belonged to the same ethno-linguistic community; she didn't like men of her community, and she seemed to take it out on me(she did ask my ethnicity beforehand)! If I were to review her in this board, I would say she is a bit pedantic and condescending; looks-wise, she is more suitable for men who like chubby women. I wouldn't call her ugly and bitchy, because these epithets are more descriptive of the beholder's animosity than the subject's appearance and attitude.

As for positive reviews, many SPs do not appreciate a minute-by-minute commentary of the encounter on a review board (unless she is offering a PSE service), and justifiably so. Each encounter is unique and very much a function of the chemistry between the couple; explicit descriptions of all the acronyms raises or lowers the expectation for others who might have a very different experience, and puts pressure on the SP to provide the exact same experience every time. As a paying client, what I look for in reviews is whether the pics match the actual appearance (since I do have preference for certain looks) and if the SP has a good attitude. It's hard not to succumb to the sin of objectification when you're shopping for service providers based on their physical attributes, but it doesn't take a lot of effort to post reviews which doesn't make a lady feel bad about herself.

Personally, I wish more SPs would post their natural pics instead of professionally composed photos. Just have someone snap your photo on your phone camera; no filters. Investing in professional photographers raises overhead cost and undue expectations from the client.

 

[Cruiser777]

I suppose there is also the issue of how much face to show.
Would a person be more likely to book Mia than Sara as a result of Mia showing her facial lips?

https://escortprivada.com/escort/mia-gomes/

If the above was (Real*) and available option in Montreal, She would been instant booking for me (Showing enough face) with overall looks
and style to my liking. (Would have taken a chance and TOFTT with no hesitation).

On the other hand, face pics have worked both ways for me as I have decided to see some and refuse few just based on the photos.

*Mean No bait and switch.

 

[Fradi]

Maria,

You have met me a few times, you know what I am like, what I think and how I treat people.
You can read every one of my reviews, you can read everyone of my posts.
I doubt you will find one negative word from me about women.

I have had nothing but love and kindness from the women in my life and that includes you and all of the escorts I have seen so far.
I think you are one of the funniest, kindest most gorgeous women I have met and I think I said that just yesterday in another thread.
I am really sorry if you have this kind of opinion of me.

What I said was that this is a review board and while I sympathize with you ladies you will see these type of reviews and comments.
It is not my way of writing and you will never see it from me.
Would I like it to be different, yes, will it be I don’t think so.

btw about your face pics, I have said a few posts that people who have never seen you facially you are one of the prettiest women ever.

 

[rosedelacourt]

Patron,
I'm talking about using words that are perhaps not as strong in either a positive or negative review. Why does one feel the need to compare to a model? Simply saying he found her attractive should be enough. Or saying that he wasn't attracted to her in person. No need to call her ugly and give her a shitty rating. The lady already uses pictures and now selfies with the new selfie threads. I understand that it is different between an agency and an independent because as independents, we choose the wording for our ads, answer our own emails so we can directly answer your questions and we produce constant visuals. I am not versed enough in agencies since I've never been in one.

So even you admit that services vary from advertised. Why is that? Because it all depends on the partner. The fact that some people have got that service and others came in expecting it is what got her bad reviews. Had she said that everything is YMMV, guys would come having to be clean, respectful and mindful that she is a person, not a sex machine who has to provide services on demand. There is also no need to warn your fellow client that she makes them come fast with her mouth, I think they can figure it out on their own and that it's their responsibility to say : slow down I don't want to cum yet. Clients tell me that all the time and I respect it. I then proceed to ask them if they are one shot guys or not. Their answer will have me adapting my session. That is my job as a provider. SEX IS ABOUT COMMUNICATION. If you don't speak up in person about what you like or don't like, then you don't get the right to come out and be mad about it.

Also, I absolutely love sex. Do I cum every time I partake in it? No. Same goes for every girl out there. Some might cum easily, some might not. Some might be really good at faking it too. This shouldn't be a criteria to say that a lady enjoys sex. It's simply false and a complete misunderstanding of the female body.

Again, girls do photoshoots almost seasonally now and most have a Twitter page. Descriptions of bodies are useless and biased. Reviews are to avoid getting scammed.

 

[Maria Divina]

Maria,

You have met me a few times, you know what I am like, what I think and how I treat people.
You can read every one of my reviews, you can read everyone of my posts.
I doubt you will find one negative word from me about women.

I have had nothing but love and kindness from the women in my life and that includes you and all of the escorts I have seen so far.
I think you are one of the funniest, kindest most gorgeous women I have met and I think I said that just yesterday in another thread.
I am really sorry if you have this kind of opinion of me.

What I said was that this is a review board and while I sympathize with you ladies you will see these type of reviews and comments.
It is not my way of writing and you will never see it from me.
Would I like it to be different, yes, will it be I don’t think so.

btw about your face pics, I have said a few posts that people who have never seen you facially you are one of the prettiest women ever.

Please, don't worry about yourself, I know you and don't suspect any malicious from you. I was just really surprised that you believed that "it might not be so bad if ladies are continuing to put ads here" ;-) xoxox

 

[Fradi]

Please, don't worry about yourself, I know you and don't suspect any malicious from you. I was just really surprised that you believed that "it might not be so bad if ladies are continuing to put ads here" ;-) xoxox

I guess you ladies have a thicker skin than I do, and after reading Rose’s comments I get that you still want to reach the lurkers and the people who think along your way who may in fact be the majority.

I am not made that way if I find someone or a place or site offensive I just remove it from my life and don’t bother with it.
Perhaps it is a guy thing or just me.

 

[rosedelacourt]

Fradi,
I find some posters’ comments disrespectful, doesn’t make this site all bad. Also doesn’t mean we can’t try to have a conversation where we can share our views. Too often girls or clients who don’t agree with the popular posters get shut down. I’m also sure nobody here is a human being without compassion. Most of you seem to care for the providers you see. How about we listen to us a little bit for a change? ❤️ That’s all we’re asking. Also, not everyone is in a position to afford just quitting this board, especially given the traffic it generates.

 

[Maria Divina]

I guess you ladies have a thicker skin than I do, and after reading Rose’s comments I get that you still want to reach the lurkers and the people who think along your way who may in fact be the majority.

I am not made that way if I find someone or a place or site offensive I just remove it from my life and don’t bother with it.
Perhaps it is a guy thing or just me.

Let's agree that's a choice/not a choice as fabulous get-to-know happened and will be happening. I will advertise again on this board. Cannot say details as I am not a current advertiser.

And let's agree, you did not have to deal in your professional life with the same kind of multi-layered universe. We (other ladies and myself) know for sure that 1 person's writing is always based on only their personal opinion
This said, it brings sadness to see, by example, a very good old personal friend turning and becoming more hard hearted toward women in general & specifically to escorts finishing maybe to have been influenced by a certain group of writers on here. This effect is well known in all men spheres: it's the effect to want to be cool in front of the boys.



PS: sorry for those who don't know me, for my level of English, as you can see, I am a French speaker first. I used to be a major female poster on Merb, and I erased, one by one, all the more old posts I could have write as I did not want to promote my activities to profane people.

 

[AdeleBeaumont]

Why do some men have to be so crude in their reviews? Reviews are good for suitors but they shouldn't be explicit. I will not treat everyone the same way, what you read online about me might be different. It's how I feel about the person I'm with.

If you have a poor hygiene, I will definitely not give you a bare blowjob.

 

[Rinzler]

i dont care much for reviews that give a blow by blow account of what happened during a session. on the other hand i expect more than reviews that are very vague or simply state that the girl was gfe. like some reviews show, there are girls who have "creative" interpretation of what gfe entails. ymmv applies but i like to read confirmation that services such as daty, lfk/dfk, bbbj, etc, were provided

as to what the op asked i think multiple good reasons have been provided as to why some girls feel comfortable showing their faces unblurred. its not something i need as i think now agencies or the providers themselves post blurred pictures giving a good idea of what a girl looks like and i always assume that at least the girl looks like a gnd which is enough for me

i find the comments posted by girls on social media or on the board more useful in deciding whether a girl makes it on my list to see or not

 

[rosedelacourt]

Just look at this horrible, disrespectful bit of writing about several providers, one in particular.

If all comments and reviews about ladies are basically the exact same, there is no ability to identify providers that some of us are looking for.

And finding posters with similar likes and interests is a key to that.

I think I can find just as many so-so/mean comments as well otherwise we wouldn't be having this conversation. Again, it's not just Hungry, because he doesn't post mean shit all the time and I can see that. But if the shoe fits.

 

[Fradi]

Fradi,
I find some posters’ comments disrespectful, doesn’t make this site all bad. Also doesn’t mean we can’t try to have a conversation where we can share our views. Too often girls or clients who don’t agree with the popular posters get shut down. I’m also sure nobody here is a human being without compassion. Most of you seem to care for the providers you see. How about we listen to us a little bit for a change? ❤️ That’s all we’re asking. Also, not everyone is in a position to afford just quitting this board, especially given the traffic it generates.

Rose,
I think if more providers like you took the time to have these type of discussions it would be better for all concerned.
I think most of you are much better thought of than you think.
I can’t speak for all of us but personally I have never had even a mediocre session with any of the ladies here.
They have all been exceptionally kind to me and one in particular has been a total angel, and I would like to think that we think of each other as friends with a few.

Yes a lot of it is male chest thumping and wanting to fit in with the boys and some well it is what it is.
It does help when some of you take the time to come on here and share your point of view especially when it is long time posters like Maria who was always respected not only by other escorts but by Merb posters as well.

 

[hungry101]

I look at this as pass-through work for most of the girls This is why my one and only peice of advice is to pay yourself first which means set something aside for your plan B. So yes, I can see why you do not want to use face pics as helpful as they can be. I will say that there have been many sex workers I've met that I thought were extremely capable individuals and I think I would have no problem hiring many of them. Why not? They do sex work and I occasionally hire sex workers so why not? No turning tricks at work. No talk of sex work etc must be professional from 8-5 and at work functions etc...and it it ever comes up you say that is something I did...(Man! Writing this I see how it could start a shit storm! Don't post face pics...)

You are right, being a decent human being comes first. It's not all about the look. In fact, a hobbyist on another board wrote There is nothing more useless than a beautiful girl that gives bad service. As I said before, some of my best sessions have been girls where I opened the door and thought Mahhh? and then they came in and blew me away and they and all of a sudden they were absolutely beautiful to me on the way out.

Are you saying that the agency owner that does this does not have your permission to send out face pics?

Thank you Patron for pointing out some of the terrible things I've said.

 

[The Nature Boy]

I definitely think u need to have some description of the type of service and level of which is provided by a provider in a review. As long as said provider is ok with it, no one else should complain. I also think that it needs to be more descriptive than “I had a wonderful time”. Different guys have different needs and the description of the session will lay out all the info to interested parties. Recently I had an awesome time with someone and wrote a review. The agency was happy but the provider was like “too graphic!” So I’ve become more cognizant of toning shit down. So there definitely needs to be a balance. Just use common sense. That same provider went Indy and is now charging $500/hour? I know Another one charging even more with a no review policy. I think, and my personal opinion, but I think it’s more than fair to see what kinda services are being offered @ $500/hour with a $50/hour outcall fee. For me, and again, not trying to start an argument but I think there are a lot of fuckers and SP’s even who would agree that @ high rates as mentioned a simple “saw the provider, she is very pretty and I will not go into details but I had a most wonderful time.” Type of review won’t suffice. For me, I’m lucky as I can afford that rate. But if I can’t tell people what happened, I won’t see that provider anymore. There are other providers equally as wonderful at all different types of rates. Nothing personal and wish her all the best. I would not pay the rate and be like “fuck it” and still write the review.

there are absolutely shills on merb. Ranges from “testers” who are seeing fresh newbies and kinda in an unspoken quid pro quo (yes I used the term again!) expected to write a favorable review (I’m sure you know some of these guys) to guys who don’t even have intercourse with the provider and yet are making comparisons to her level of service to other superstars from other agencies, to dudes who have providers proofreading their reviews before they go up.

bottom line, just exercise common sense. It’s all about having a good time

i don’t think it’s cool to bash a girl based on her physical appearance on an open forum.

 

[Stephen500]

Another example of a good discussion that happened only because merb is the rare forum where hookers and johns speak directly to each other.

My takeaway: there are some similarities between the marketing and sale of intimate services as compared to, let's say, the marketing and sale of a car (or any other commodity), but most of the women who sell those services will never view it as a straight-up commodity purchase, and many of the men who purchase those services would prefer the "car model" for these transactions, including 100% transparency with detailed specifications. The ability of either party to shape the transaction is deeply warped and hampered by the legal regime. But the regime does not only restrict and endanger women. It also enables them to limit transparency and in other ways exert some control over how the market works, how individual transactions between hooker and john go. I think this is why you hear women in the SW industry say they want decriminalization, but not legalization (which is inevitably accompanied by regulation). Totally understandable, who wants to be regulated by the government?. It is also understandable that johns want transparency.

Apart from this issue of transparency, Rose, Adele and others are asking johns on merb to be respectful, kind, less crude in their comments. I agree 100%. It should be the policy of merb. If the mods won't enforce it, there should be peer-to-peer enforcement.

The extent of transparency and detail in reviews regarding services and attitude is a thornier question. Patron argues forcefully for more transparency but I suspect he would agree that transparency has to be used responsibly, not abused. Transparency in the form of reviews "certifying" that a given provider's service includes BBBJ is abused when used by a john to demand that a provider accept an unclean dick without a cover, as Adele points out. Is this the provider's problem to deal with, or is it better addressed by reducing transparency as to the details of service?

I'm not sure exactly where to draw the line in terms of transparency. It seems that a relatively higher degree of transparency is optimal if we're dealing with mature, respectful adults. But that is not uniformly the case. With less transparency, providers gain a bit more protection from abuse, and a bit more control over the terms of transactions.

One thing seems clear: there are a significant number of johns wedded to commodity paradigm for the purchase of intimate services, and this leads them to not only want transparency, but also (knowingly or not) to speak of (and perhaps treat) providers in a dehumanizing, disrespectful manner. I think johns should learn to recognize the commodity paradigm in their thinking, words and actions, and consciously reject it. That will solve part of the problem that is being discussed in this thread. It will not necessarily solve the problem of the right amount of transparency, but at least it will make for a more respectful and perhaps more productive discussion.

 

[The Nature Boy]

No disrespect but I think comparing the purchase of an automobile to the purchase of time spent with a SP are not similar. Quite different vastly. There needs to be a sense of self assessment from some of these fuckers. You can read descriptive reviews. All of which can be truthful and with out shills. But there’s that human element that plays into effect which can cause u to be the only fucker, the outlier in the lot which didn’t have as good a time with a SP. in that situation more guys need to be honest with themselves and come to the realization that “hey it happens” and move on, not anyone’s fault a lot of times. Instead of bashing providers and agencies and holding grudges.