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The leaders and PR hacks of the abolitionist nonprofits that make their living from government grants and public donations are moving into full moral panic mode.

Here is a Google translation of the latest article from Radio Canada.


The revelations of the program Enquête concerning Dr. Mounir Bashour , this 57-year-old eye surgeon who has allegedly been active for years in the world of luxury prostitution, have prompted reactions from the professional orders to which he is affiliated, as well as organizations that fight against sexual exploitation.

The College of Physicians, through its president Mauril Gaudreault, stated that it had reviewed the full report broadcast yesterday and is taking the reported facts very seriously . Verifications are underway, and alleged victims are encouraged to come forward, Dr. Gaudreault added.

The Quebec Federation of Medical Specialists stated that yesterday's revelations are serious and deeply shocking . It expressed confidence in the competent authorities, particularly the College of Physicians, to take the necessary steps and will follow their conclusions to the letter .

Dr. Bashour's employer, Lasik MD, immediately reacted to the revelations of the Enquête program yesterday by suspending the doctor until further notice due to the seriousness of the allegations .
The victims are encouraged to come forward.
At this stage, the doctor is not facing any legal charges, although Commander Frédéric Martineau, head of the unit responsible for combating sexual exploitation atSPVMhe revealed on Friday, during an interview withRDI, that he was the subject of an investigation.

According to information revealed during the Enquête program, Dr. Bashour has been acting for several years as a recruiter, agency manager and consumer of sexual services.

The doctor's name attracted the attention of journalists who were reviewing short documents relating to the dismantling of another escort agency, named XO, last winter.

He [Mounir Bashour] has already been the subject of an investigation, and it is not set in stone. It is ongoing.

A quote fromFrédéric Martineau, head of the sexual exploitation section at the SPVM
Mr. Martineau said he hoped the broadcast of the report would encourage other victims to report similar incidents. He urged them to contact the police.

Receiving a complaint from a sex worker greatly facilitates the work of investigators, he added. It provides a starting point, shows us how things work, and allows us to align the investigation with other victims.
Frédéric Martineau reminded everyone that the purchase of sexual services is illegal in Canada, and that this offense can be compounded by charges of assault and sexual assault.

Several women told Enquête journalists that they had suffered violence at the hands of Dr. Bashour, nicknamed Doctor Vampire by one of his victims.

In a statement, the Coalition Against Sexual Exploitation salutes the courage of those who testified and expresses its thoughts for all those for whom the report will arouse strong emotions.

Thanks to this program, the public was able to acknowledge what we have been seeing every day for over 20 years: an industry that operates with complete impunity, in Montreal, but also in several other regions of Quebec.

A quote fromExcerpt from a press release by the Coalition Against Sexual Exploitation
One among many others
As Lyne Collette, clinical coordinator for La Sortie, an organization that helps women who are victims of sexual exploitation and trafficking, points out, these revelations are indeed not a surprise.

As the years go by, more and more horror stories are present because the violence is worse, the atrocities are greater, she observes.

He's just one among many. The pimp could be your neighbor, your cousin, your brother. They're very nice, it's not written on their faces.

A quote fromLyne Collette, clinical coordinator for La Sortie
This view is shared by the Coalition Against Sexual Exploitation, which emphasizes that the situation shown in the Enquête report is neither an exception nor an anomaly.

There aren't two kinds of clients, the good ones and the others. There's a system. And this system exists because, every day in Quebec, men from all social classes shop around for sexual services, this organization points out.

Increasingly younger
The women who seek help from La Sortie come from diverse backgrounds and all walks of life, reports Lyne Collette. She also notes that they are increasingly younger, 14, 15 years old, and that young boys are also involved.

Pimps recruit escorts on social media, she explains. The young women fall in love. He [the pimp] will charm her, listen to her, buy her all sorts of things. He will flatter her until he desensitizes her, and then the violence kicks in and they experience atrocities.

For her, more resources are needed to combat this phenomenon. There must be more subsidies, more buildings to house women. We must give them tools, implement prevention programs in schools. We must continue to move forward because yesterday's crimes are not today's crimes, she insists.

Leaving prostitution is not just an individual matter. It is a choice we must make as a society, adds Jennie-Laure Sully, coordinator at the Coalition Against Sexual Exploitation.

It is possible to get out of this situation, as shown by the journey of several women who came to La Sortie seeking help, where they can benefit from accommodation and long-term support.

Lyne Collette has seen several return to school to become peer supporters and then join her intervention team, to give back.

They come here to acquire residential stability. They can settle down, rebuild their lives, and regain control over their lives.

A quote fromLyne Collette, clinical coordinator for La Sortie
La Sortie is also there for those who choose to remain in the community and who need a listening ear, advice, or to be accompanied to the hospital, she explains. A telephone helpline is available 24/7.

More resources for the police
Commander Frédéric Martineau specifies that additional financial resources were allocated to the fight against sexual exploitation by the Ministry of Internal Security last spring.

Starting next week, theSPVM will have 15 new resources within its sexual exploitation section, which currently includes nearly fifty investigators divided into specialized teams, squads that fight against pimping and child pornography.

They will help to intensify the fight against sexual exploitation, particularly on the island of Montreal.

“We will be more effective, both in supporting victims and in tackling the pimps who exploit them, the clients who abuse them, as well as the predators who operate online,” said Commander Martineau in a statement released Friday.
 
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After reading that article, I am a little more pessimistic about the future of the escort business in Montreal. While the shutdown of XO and Euphoria may not be direct results of the "government action plan on sexual exploitation" that is referred to in the article, it seems like the momentum is shifting in the battle between the prostitution abolitionists and supporters of a tolerant attitude towards the industry. The abolitionists have now tasted blood and they want more and they have been given more resources to pursue their goals. While they say they want to mainly stop any negative industry practices (underage girls, pimping, violence, etc.), they really want to abolish prostitution completely or greatly diminish the size of the industry.

The agency model of business is the most vulnerable to attack by the abolitionists. The Enquete episode provides the perfect script for how to shut down an agency. The police, the press and abolitionist groups such as CLES do not have to shut down every agency. They just have to harass, intimidate and scare the owners, escorts and clients of a few high profile agencies and that will kill off most of the agencies. This is what happened to the agency business in most states of the U.S. including the state where I live in the southeast.

However, it's probably impossible to kill off the indy business and it may even help the indy business by making it the only acceptable way to operate. Some girls who now work in agencies will switch to indy but many agency girls are either not interested in working as an indy or not really capable of running their own business. The result will be lower supply, higher prices and much less convenient booking procedures for the client.

I hope I'm wrong about all this, but it feels like a new era is dawning in the sex business in Montreal.
My prediction is that we will soon see the appearance of the businesses that imitate "indies" by providing per hour renting, booking, security and transportation as different entities for each of these tasks abolishing the formal "hiring" process. Much less risk for each business at the expense of the diminished security for girls and clients.
 

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Apres le reportage jsuis quand meme choquee et jpense jvais arreter les agences

Bro la plupart des policiers sont client Lol!

C'est beaucoup de bla bla mais a moyen terme je vois pas rien qui va changer. Ce que j'aimerais tout simplement c'est que la prostitution soit légale.
 
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The journalist is going to be on Tout Le Monde En Parle on Sunday.
oy vey...I still feel this will fizzle out at some point. It will just take another week. The news is "flooded" with other stuff. This "journalism" is not journalism and gives a very narrowly focused version of things that does not represent reality. It is easy to "criticize" but that journalist is not bringing any real solutions.

I watched the interview with seargent Martineau and he was pretty good not to fall into the traps of the interviewer. Ultimately ressource allocation and primary lines of enforcement are dictated by the DPCP. These are smart people not so easily intimidated by a sensationalist media report.

What this story does is not only unfairly target Euphoria (when there is so much worse going on), it puts a lot of pressure on the law enforcement. We wil see how this plays out.

Has anything like this media attention happened in recent history in Toronto or Vancouver? Where things are arguably on a larger scale? Just curious
 
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Has anything like this media attention happened in recent history in Toronto or Vancouver? Where things are arguably on a larger scale? Just curious
I have not heard anything like this happening in Toronto. I think it is the media using this to get bait and click to get viewers hyped up and to keep on getting government funding. La Presse made the XO story and now Radio Canada wanted a piece of this, if anything Radio Canada is pissed that they did not get the story first.
 
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They brought Clementine back... They are making it sound like nearly every guy is strangling, abusing, burning with cigarettes, etc, the providers and there is zero security. This seems to be the opposite of what I've heard which was there is prompt security especially to enforce payment and during the rare occasions safety. E.g. one provider said that at XO, two people 6'5 men showed up at the door, came in and security was able to remove them.
J'ai écouté le poscast Pire idée de ma vie : sugar baby . Je ne sais pas ce qui est vrai de ce qui est faux.
Par exemple, il est mentionné que le voisin de la famille de Clémentine aurait fait un virement dans le compte bancaire
de Clémentine. Les parents l'auraient découvert et auraient confronté le voisin. Donc, soit Clémentine aurait initié la rencontre
avec le voisin, soit le voisin l'aurait initié, soit le voisin aurait rencontré Clémentine à l'agence... Dans tous les cas, c'est plutôt invraisemblable.
 
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