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Do you think Donald Trump/America should acquire Greenland?

Do you think America should get Greenland?

  • Hell yes, I'm America First

    Votes: 6 22.2%
  • Hell no! I'm against American Imperialism

    Votes: 20 74.1%
  • I don't know

    Votes: 1 3.7%

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EagerBeaver

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The U.S. purchased Louisiana from France for $15 million in 1803. The U.S. purchased Alaska from Russia in for $7.2 million in 1867. If you project $15 million and $72 million into 2026 dollars you then have to ask is Greenland worth as much as Louisiana and Alaska in today's dollars. I say it's worth less than either. That's how I would negotiate this purchase. It would be good if we could hire William Seward to negotiate the deal, but unfortunately he is dead.
 
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The U.S. purchased Louisiana from France for $15 million in 1803. The U.S. purchased Alaska from Russia in for $72 million in 1867. If you project $15 million and $72 million into 2026 dollars you then have to ask is Greenland worth as much as Louisiana and Alaska in today's dollars. I say it's worth less than either. That's how I would negotiate this purchase. It would be good if we could hire William Seward to negotiate the deal, but unfortunately he is dead.

15 Billion and the State of California

Make the deal Donald if its all about security
 
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15 Billion and the State of California

Make the deal Donald if its all about security
You could also do a "3 team trade." US Sends $10 billion and the rights to California to Denmark and $5 billion to Greenland, and in return acquires Greenland. Denmark then sends the rights to the State of California to Canada, and in return gets the rights to the province of Alberta.

This strikes me as a fair trade.
 

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You could also do a "3 team trade." US Sends $10 billion and the rights to California to Denmark and $5 billion to Greenland, and in return acquires Greenland. Denmark then sends the rights to the State of California to Canada, and in return gets the rights to the province of Alberta.

This strikes me as a fair trade.
How about Canada gets California and America gets Alberta lol

Then this way, Canadians will have a warm place to go to, during winter. Lol
 

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The U.S. purchased Louisiana from France for $15 million in 1803. The U.S. purchased Alaska from Russia in for $72 million in 1867. If you project $15 million and $72 million into 2026 dollars you then have to ask is Greenland worth as much as Louisiana and Alaska in today's dollars. I say it's worth less than either. That's how I would negotiate this purchase. It would be good if we could hire William Seward to negotiate the deal, but unfortunately he is dead.
For the millionth time, you can only negotiate a purchase if the seller is interested in selling. Why are you glossing over that simple detail? Greenland has repeatedly said they're not interested in a sale.

Trump yesterday: We're going to do something about Greenland whether they like it or not.
 
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How about Canada gets California and America gets Alberta lol
As a straight up trade, it's not really fair. At a minimum, in exchange for California, USA should also ask for all of the Maritime Provinces in addition to Alberta- Prince Edward Island, Nova Scotia and Newfoundland. Hence the USA would link these provinces with Maine and become the dominant force in Atlantic seafood- lobsters, oysters and mussels!
 

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If the Greenlanders vote to be bribed and join the USA, it's their prerogative, just like Quebec can vote to separate from Canada. I like the idea of pumping up the Greenland economy.
Actually it’s Alberta that’s talking about separation right now. I suspect that there will eventually be a referendum. I hope voters will be made aware that of they do vote for separation that there is no going back.

Yes Alberta has oil. But the oil belongs to all Canadians. And without the oil Alberta wouldn’t have much. They contribute only a small portion of the country’s GDP. And last week i read an article where it stated that at the present day & trend Alberta’s oil reserves will likely go dry around 2055. If this happens (and it will eventually) than this doesn’t leave much for Alberta.
 

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Actually it’s Alberta that’s talking about separation right now. I suspect that there will eventually be a referendum. I hope voters will be made aware that of they do vote for separation that there is no going back.

Yes Alberta has oil. But the oil belongs to all Canadians. And without the oil Alberta wouldn’t have much. They contribute only a small portion of the country’s GDP. And last week i read an article where it stated that at the present day & trend Alberta’s oil reserves will likely go dry around 2055. If this happens (and it will eventually) than this doesn’t leave much for Alberta.
These are all reasons why Alberta is an interesting trade piece by Canada in the discussions above. Alberta is sort of like a free agent to be on an expiring contract. A trade candidate as long as they are still under contract. Once the referendum is held and they vote to separate or secede from Canada, they become a free agent and Canada no longer holds their trade rights. It's a question of whether Canada wants to get something in return or not before that happens.

Yet another possibility is that the USA offer Canada joint ownership of Greenland- in other words divide the country into Canadian and American zones- in exchange for Alberta.
 

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As a straight up trade, it's not really fair. At a minimum, in exchange for California, USA should also ask for all of the Maritime Provinces in addition to Alberta- Prince Edward Island, Nova Scotia and Newfoundland. Hence the USA would link these provinces with Maine and become the dominant force in Atlantic seafood- lobsters, oysters and mussels!
The Maritime provinces in Canada are New Brunswick, Nova Scotia and Prince Edward Island. There seems to be confusion as to what constitutes the Maritimes in Canada in your post, as you have included Newfoundland. Newfoundland, along with the three Maritime provinces, are known as the Atlantic provinces.
 
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The Maritime provinces in Canada are New Brunswick, Nova Scotia and Prince Edward Island. There seems to be confusion as to what constitutes the Maritimes in Canada in your post, as you have included Newfoundland. Newfoundland, along with the three Maritime provinces, are known as the Atlantic provinces.
Thanks for the correction. I meant to include all of them and left out New Brunswick.
 
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For the millionth time, you can only negotiate a purchase if the seller is interested in selling. Why are you glossing over that simple detail? Greenland has repeatedly said they're not interested in a sale.
Carmine, Greenland does not own itself. It is an autonomous territory of the Kingdom of Denmark whose economy is HEAVILY reliant on aid from Denmark. Therefore Greenland isn't calling the shots here on a sale. Denmark is.

I am going to point you back to the precedent of France selling Louisiana to the USA. This was a very sudden and unexpected deal. France at the time needed money badly to fund Napoleon's wartime enterprises and conquests, which costed it a lot of money. Napoleon said, "who fucking cares about Louisiana? It's a big fucking swamp!!!!" When the U.S. offered $15 million and it was accepted, Monroe and the U.S. administration were delighted. Nobody in Louisiana at that time saw it coming or controlled the deal.

I could envision a scenario where Denmark gets offered money, and also gets offered to be relieved of its burden of providing aid, and says good riddance to Greenland. Much like Napoleon did to Louisiana. You seem to either discount, or be totally ignorant of the possibility of the U.S. making this happen. I am here to tell you that the U.S. can make this happen if they want to.
 
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