Sorry Fradi, didn't meant to upset you. Your feelings matter to me.Don’t you have about a couple more million friends to name from different nationalities.
Sorry Fradi, didn't meant to upset you. Your feelings matter to me.Don’t you have about a couple more million friends to name from different nationalities.
LMFAOOOO LMFAOOOODon’t you have about a couple more million friends to name from different nationalities.
That's all true and he had excellent teams but they lacked a little bit in the shooting department, and there were 2 seasons in particular where if he had a couple of white sharpshooters that he hadn't recruited championships may not have been left on the table. Thompson's teams were known for their defensive relentlessness, but they got caught in a halfcourt tempo game with Villanova in 1985 and that Georgetown team lacked shooting on the perimeter. This was particularly important because in basketball teams that have designated shooters can space the floor so the opponent cannot sag inside and clog the lane. Villanova executed a perfect game plan against a vastly superior Georgetown team in that regard, shot 78% which was a record, but that game plan is foiled if Georgetown had a knockdown shooter like Steve Alford at the time.I would argue that black players just happen to be much better basketball players and he wanted a winning team.i am not a huge basketball fan but even with my limited knowledge it is obvious that the majority of the best players are black and we’ll deserve to be at the top based on their skills.
Now if his teams were always at the tail end of the league then I would question both his motives and judgement.
Hey @FradiI think it is better this way.
At least now you know who is a racist and who is not ( in some cases it could be that they don’t want to run into relatives or friends).
It is better than booking someone and then being rejected and humiliated at the door.
At the end of the day whether you think it is racist or not everybody does have a choice as to who they want to be intimate with client and SP.
The difference is that a racist client will not book anyone he doesn’t like and you will never know about it.
Luckily there is still enough choices for every one.
Nah I am quite comfortable with who I am and way too old to change.Sorry Fradi, didn't meant to upset you. Your feelings matter to me.
Speaking of the OP, he is what I would call the "Demo Guy", because he starts an explosive thread and runs, much like the demolitions experts who blow up buildings. However I think he was intending to start a debate about racism at one agency, rather than spawn yet another unwieldy thread on racism in the industry and generally. So I would say he didn't blow up the intended building but the one next door, sort of like the drone that Hezbollah sent at Netanyahu's house which ended up blowing up his neighbor's house., I agree with every point you made here as the very first person to respond to the OP.
Like I said with my limited knowledge of basketball and I admit I don’t often watch it unlike the many other sports.That's all true and he had excellent teams but they lacked a little bit in the shooting department, and there were 2 seasons in particular where if he had a couple of white sharpshooters that he hadn't recruited championships may not have been left on the table. Thompson's teams were known for their defensive relentlessness, but they got caught in a halfcourt tempo game with Villanova in 1985 and that Georgetown team lacked shooting on the perimeter. This was particularly important because in basketball teams that have designated shooters can space the floor so the opponent cannot sag inside and clog the lane. Villanova executed a perfect game plan against a vastly superior Georgetown team in that regard, shot 78% which was a record, but that game plan is foiled if Georgetown had a knockdown shooter like Steve Alford at the time.
It was less about the calling out preference as I have preferencences too when it comes to my personal life.Naaaaa.... A true racist would never keep friends with said member of whatever race his bigotry is towards.
The same way a vegetarian wouldn't eat meat only 6 out of seven days.
I think perhaps some of you have other things going on in your lives and maybe just need to spar and vent just for the sake of arguing.
One has to be open to the idea that their view on things may be susceptible to tunnel vision.
My black, and Chinese, and Indian, and Filipino, and Algerian friends are an integral part of my life. But my preference in sexual partners is primarily (but not exclusively) white.
Sorry, but there's no racism here. The same way I prefer chocolate cake over vanilla.
I'm not the one to say white people aren't targets of racism. I know all races including white is targeted as well all over the world, and here too, just not to the same degree here. I actually erased a message I was in the process of writing earlier that had an example of that, because this thread was about racism for MOC, and I didn't want to play flip the scrip. As other races feel targeted they flip it and hate their supressors, and become racist themselves twords them. Every race who has wronged another creates hate and retaliation racism. Hate begets hate. It is a vicious circle.Racism is not exclusive to white people.
There are many black people who are racist against whites and asians or any one that is different to them.
There isn’t any race, ethnicity or colour that is immune to racism or doesn’t have it amongst them
Let’s just agree that it is ugly no matter who practices it.
People should be judged on their actions and behaviour period.
You are more than wise lol.14 pages is crazy
Wasn't the reason of this thread how a MOC felt about being discriminated against.Btw is this thread about racism or about a woman's right to choose? Seriously. Cuz I would simply start a seperate thread (()) dedicated to racism.
Think deeply before you answer (and leave your desire to vent out if possible).
This thread is about a woman's right to choose and select her clients, regardless of her "PERSONAL" reasons. No ones' business but hers. Think about it.
I would argue that black players just happen to be much better basketball players and he wanted a winning team.i am not a huge basketball fan but even with my limited knowledge it is obvious that the majority of the best players are black and we’ll deserve to be at the top based on their skills.
14 pages is crazy
I think a lot has to do with all the liberal bullshit that white people themselves propagated against themselves.It was less about the calling out preference as I have preferencences too when it comes to my personal life.
But was all about the cliché of I have friends of X race to claim non-racism. I have read what you've written all along. And sounds like similar boat I relate to. You haven't been giving racist vibes to me, it was just the cliché I am friends with i couldn't help spotting.
I blame it on seeing too many comedy shows pointing this very cliche out.
I'm not the one to say white people aren't targets of racism. I know all races including white is targeted as well all over the world, and here too, just not to the same degree here. I actually erased a message I was in the process of writing earlier that had an example of that, because this thread was about racism for MOC, and I didn't want to play flip the scrip. As other races feel targeted they flip it and hate their supressors, and become racist themselves twords them. Every race who has wronged another creates hate and retaliation racism. Hate begets hate. It is a vicious circle.
Just to point out. The providers here on the forum, are on the side of anti-racism we all who have been responding here actively practice love for all races, not even tolerance but true acceptance, and even amongst eachother help correct accidental or ignorant racism and educate eachother on better practices, of self expression. Unfortunately those who you want to get this message accross to, don't use this forum. The only ones your preaching this racist take to, are other hobbiests. The girl in an agency writing No X race, is not lurking here, or even cares this discussion is happening because of their actions. All the providers here can do is lend a sympathetic ear and do what we do best, and console and make you feel heard, and know we aren't all like these girls publicly refusing to see someone because of where they come from or the color of their skin.
And what I think the issue with what was mentioned earlier is actually the script has been flipped so much, that many white people are also being told they have no right to feel targeted by racism to them now, because of all their ancestors have done to others in the past. But truth is racism isn't good reguardless of who is giving it and who is recieving it.
And only bringing it up now as it has now become a part of the conversation. So my opinion on it isn't out of left field.
And a few of these cultures being pointed out as being targets of genocide and war over seas, are technically counted as white as well. People seem to forget that just because it is overseas in other countries, some are just as white as here, it is just they get refered to by their culture or country instead of the color of their skin.
Its definitely cultural and socioeconomic as to why most pro basketball players are black. I have read that Major League Baseball is concerned by the dwindling percentage of black players at the MLB level, and part of it is that good black athletes choose basketball over baseball, in situations where a choice has to be made. Professional Basketball has spread internationally much more than baseball has, and there is more money to be made in basketball. However, it's not like there are no white players playing basketball. Last year's NCAA Champion Men's Basketball Team UConn Huskies had 3 white starters and 2 black starters. This year's team is likely to have 3 black starters and 2 white starters. All of them are good players. 4 off last year's team were drafted into the NBA, 2 of whom are white (Donovan Clingan and Cam Spencer) and 2 who are black (Tristan Newton and Stephon Castle).More likely it is cultural and socio-econimicl differences that explain why most pro basketball players are black and most hockey players are white. In the end we are all human with 99.99% shared DNA
I think it is way too complicated but there are many factors including social- economic, cultural, what sports your relatives excelled at. Where you, live what country you live in.geezz... so by that logic I guess white guys ''just happen'' to be better hockey players than black guys? Like its written somewhere in the DNA?
More likely it is cultural and socio-econimicl differences that explain why most pro basketball players are black and most hockey players are white. In the end we are all human with 99.99% shared DNA
If only you knew how strong my mitochondria are.... Someone's smiling.Nah I am quite comfortable with who I am and way too old to change.
I don’t get upset proof is my age. People who let things get to them die young.
I think everyone already settled on your body your choice. That is why it no longer continues to be spoken on. It just leaves the topic of what the message portrays, and everyone seems to need to educate.This is well said. Absent a survey of some kind or someone at Euphoria with a race/ethnic-based restriction coming forward to offer an explanation, we aren't privy to the reasons behind anyone's given restriction (nor are we owed any). For that reason, while the discrimination component in the definition of "racism" is evident, I'm hesitant to shame, stigmatize, or malign anyone as "racist" based solely on the available information.
This is a service, yes, but it is rather a unique one due to its intimate nature and the complexities surrounding personal and bodily autonomy, safety—both physical and psychological—and specific power dynamics that may disadvantage the provider. Relatedly, the legal protections and avenues for recourse differ significantly in this context. Therefore, I believe that: 1) service providers should be granted the maximum discretion in choosing their clients, and 2) comparing discrimination in this context to discrimination in other service industries is likely to be a flawed apples and oranges comparison.
While I acknowledge that deep-rooted historical prejudices, unconscious bias, and systemic inequality are significant issues our society must address, I don’t believe that making service providers universally inclusive will make a dent in resolving these problems. Moreover, expecting them to sacrifice their own interests, which may or may not include mitigating risk to personal safety, to further a utopian vision of "the greater good" is wrong.
That is where I currently stand on this matter; I'm open to changing my mind. Do note that I am a non-provider/client from a racial minority group, so take what I said for what it's worth and sorry to prolong an already drawn-out thread.
I think mitochondria cells go into a frenzy and multiply out of control every time you make a friend from a new nationality, that could explain it.If only you knew how strong my mitochondria are.... Someone's smiling.





