COVID's vaccine, by whom, when, effective? all around the vaccine

[cloudsurf]

20% of Canadians are hesitant or decided not to get vaccinated...even a larger percent in the States.
When they wiped out Small Pox and Polio , one had no choice and weren`t allowed to refuse a vaccine. Those were the good old days.

 

[sene5hos]

There was no social media.

Much less conspiracy theories.

I can't believe how they managed to make believe that it was possible to put a microchip in the vaccine.

 

[cloudsurf]

I can't believe how they managed to make believe that it was possible to put a microchip in the vaccine.

Too many people believing what they see in some conspiracy based TV shoes like Blind Spot and Black List. Blame it on Netflix.

 

[Fradi]

I can't believe how they managed to make believe that it was possible to put a microchip in the vaccine.

I personally asked for the micro chip that gives you X-ray vision.
So many hot girls in Montreal walking around in the summer time, would make girl watching even more entertaining.

 

[sene5hos]

I personally asked for the micro chip that gives you X-ray vision.
So many hot girls in Montreal walking around in the summer time, would make girl watching even more entertaining.

Well answered.

Good joke, but that shows how stupid the process is.

 

[gaby]

DUCHARME des HABS ET la COVID 19.....soyons clair et pas de panique ....oui testé positif après ses 2 doses.....MAIS rien de surprenant....uno l'effet maximal d'immunité dans son cas---suite à sa 2ème dose---est prévu le 23 JUIN...

-deuxièmement les vaccins immunisent à près de 95% contre LES EFFETS NÉFASTES DU VIRUS---DÉCÈS ET HOSPITALISATION----PRÈS DE 88% pour les variants principalement le DELTA....MAIS oui---même vacciné-- on peut quand même être testé positif
et le transmettre .....d'ou l'importance de maintenir les mesures sanitaires jusqu'à ce que l'immunité collective soit atteinte soit minimum de 75 % de la population pleinement vaccinée......évidemment il reste un malheureux 5 % ...mais disons
que les odds sont bonnes en ta.....alors les 18-30 on se grouille.... si comme nous vous voulez reprendre une vie normale asap et retourner en présentiel l'Université ou high school en Septembre.......my 2 cents en ce Vendredi doir. .

 

[IamNY]

Guys, your just not following the science. X-ray vision would show you people's skeletons. The vaccine that I got was the one with the "clothing optional" chip that allows me to view only young attractive nude women. It's no wonder we are still in this damn pandemic, you just gotta start following the science!

 

[sene5hos]

Vaccins: trop de méfiance et d’indifférence

Des milliers de personnes se sentent plus menacés par les vaccins que par la COVID-19.

www.journaldemontreal.com

Not knowing which way to turn, many countries have seen fit to give gifts to those who are still hesitant to get vaccinated against COVID-19.

This is to say what a world of turmoil we all live in. Rather than seeing vaccines as the advancement of science, as a gift to keep us safe from viruses, thousands of people feel more threatened by the vaccine than by COVID-19.

How can we explain that in Quebec, for example, only 63% of young people between the ages of 18 and 29 received the first dose of the vaccine? What are the others doing?

What should be offered to citizens besides free car rides? Across Canada and the United States, there are all kinds of incentives. Hot dogs, donuts, pizza, and even savings certificates up to $ 100.

 

[gaby]

For Montréal...,,i was thinking about it some days ago....leaving in Old Montréal --Vieux Port ou défilent du Jeudi au Dimanche des milliers et milliers DE JEUNES why not utiliser d'une part le Centre des Sciences---un immense site et y tenir à l'extérieur de l'animation,

de l'information sur les vaccins et offrir un drink gratuitement---par exemple ou autre-- à tous et celles qui décideraient de s'y faire vacciner.......même chose PLACE JACQUES CARTIER...ouvrir sur place un kiosque d'information et de vaccination.

Et tant qu'à y être why not the reopening off the CASINO ....offrant sur un plancher information et vaccination avec un crédit let's say de 25,00 to play....ce serais j'en suis convaincu un immense succès....lollll

 

[CLOUD 500]

Some of you listen too blindly to the government and quote science a lot but science is constantly changing. 40 years ago they said margarine is good for you and now the whole story changed. They also were using DDT and said how safe it was till it was banned. Covid is real but the effects of the vaccines are unknown. The vaccines are NOT approved by the FDA meaning full data from phase 3 trials are not available. It was approved under emergency approval only. Something to think about. The long term effects are also unknown.

All those yes man to the government took AstraZeneca but it caused some to have vaccine induced thrombosis which is a very serious form of blood clot far more serious then a regular blood clot because it forms in unusual areas like the brain and abdomen. Some of you did not get it and I am glad for you but to those who got it or to a loved one well it sucks. Now the vaccine has been pulled off. All those ppl waiting for a second dose are getting jerked around by the government.

Moving on the Pfizer/Moderna vaccines is causing cases of myocarditis which can be very serious it can cause cardiac arrest. Most of you on this board are over 50+ but this is something that is mainly affecting those under 30 so to them this is very relevant. Some have experienced cases of Bells Palsy. The risk of anaphylactic shock is also real and is life threathening. The vaccines are causing ten times more severe allergic reactions compared to the flu vaccines.

Point is this is all real data and not a conspiracy. Some of you are complicit theorists bowing down to whatever the government says and shaming free thinkers. Moral is taking the vaccine is a personal choice and those ppl who are hesistating got a valid reason to not want it.

 

[Fradi]

How can we explain that in Quebec, for example, only 63% of young people between the ages of 18 and 29 received the first dose of the vaccine? What are the others doing?

I actually had this conversation with a service repairman who was in his mid to late 20s
He said that he is young and does not fear getting covid, to him it is nothing more than a more severe cold perhaps.
He would rather endure the covid symptoms than get vaccinated with a foreign substance into his body which right now nobody has any knowledge of what kind of long range effects it might have.
This guy was not a fanatic he had no problem wearing a mask or social distancing he said all of that made sense to keep him from getting covid or potentially spreading it he was just unsure of the vaccine and he would rather take his chances with covid.
I don’t agree with him and I told him so, it was actually quite a pleasant conversation and I got to see another viewpoint.

 

[gaby]

Well ...sorry BUT i don't feel like a naive complice du et des gouvernements et des scientifiques...lol....i just feel like an human being who cares and wants the better for him and his collectivity....sure it is a personal choice.....but for me it's un choix éclairé et assumé pour que cesse asap l'inquiétude et la psychose sociale qui prévaut actuellement....you don't want it.....ok fine...no problem ....you have your views bien exprimées...BUT i don't share it at all.....

 

[sene5hos]

Gaby, vous avez exprimé très bien, ce que je pense aussi.

 

[gallantca]

shaming free thinkers.

Free thinkers ? LOL, is that we we're calling them in this new politically correct world

Tell me the thousands of morons, I mean free thinkers, that when to the Kanesatake party were worried about myocarditis.

 

[CLOUD 500]

Free thinkers ? LOL, is that we we're calling them in this new politically correct world

Tell me the thousands of morons, I mean free thinkers, that when to the Kanesatake party were worried about myocarditis.

Apparently when there is a huge protest for social justice like BLM and Palestine apparently that is correct and no one is worried about covid. Lol

 

[gallantca]

Apparently when there is a huge protest for social justice like BLM and Palestine apparently that is correct and no one is worried about covid. Lol

equating people fighting for social justice to partiers in oka requires some serious free thinking

both are wrong, one is just next level stupid

 

[Fradi]

I am much more sympathetic to a young person who thinks he doesn’t want to introduce something into his body that there is no evidence yet as to long term side effects than the morons who refuse to wear a mask indoors or to social distance, this costs nothing is in no way harmful to them and not only protects them but also their fellow citizens.

I have already had both doses and am fully vaccinated, so obviously I think this is the way to get rid of this whole covid thing hopefully.
I am glad I can see my ATF and other ladies and feel much safer than before.

 

[GaryH]

Eric Clapton had a "disastrous" health experience with the AstraZeneca vaccine and blamed “the propaganda” for overstating the safety of the vaccine.
Clapton: “I took the first jab of AZ and straight away had severe reactions which lasted ten days. I recovered eventually and was told it would be twelve weeks before the second one.
“About six weeks later I was offered and took the second AZ shot, but with a little more knowledge of the dangers. Needless to say the reactions were disastrous, my hands and feet were either frozen, numb or burning, and pretty much useless for two weeks, I feared I would never play again, (I suffer with peripheral neuropathy and should never have gone near the needle.) But the propaganda said the vaccine was safe for everyone…”
“I continue to tread the path of passive rebellion and try to tow the line in order to be able to actively love my family, but it’s hard to bite my tongue with what I now know.”

And once he spoke his mind, how did his fellow musicians react? Clapton: “I’ve tried to reach out to fellow musicians."
“I just don’t hear from them anymore. My phone doesn’t ring very often. I don’t get that many texts and emails anymore. It’s quite noticeable.” He said he now feels “ostracised” after speaking out.

I got both shots of the Pfizer vaccine as soon as I could. I encouraged my family members and I everyone I know to do likewise. But I would not bully and mock those who choose not to. I am betting that the vaccine I got is safe, but who knows the future effects. 1 year ago, most of the major news outlets said that it was a crazy conspiracy theory that the virus started in a Wuhan lab. Now . . . not so crazy.

And this week, Bruce Springsteen announced a series of shows in NYC starting next week. But you must have proof of vaccination to attend. But proof of receiving the AZ vaccine will not be accepted.

 

[CLOUD 500]

I wouldn’t bully anyone either, but they shouldn’t be able to hold the world hostage.

It was a mistake for politicians to set thresholds like 70 percent vaccinated to open things like borders.

It should have been an Or test. 70 percent vaccinated or One Month After The Vaccine is Available to Virtually Everyone.

An equally interesting question is whether government and insurance subsidies should be equally available to the unvaccinated and the vaccinated if they catch Covid.

Because covid was always political. The politicians turned it into about politics. Government should never be involved in this. These things should be left to doctors.

 

[CLOUD 500]

Eric Clapton had a "disastrous" health experience with the AstraZeneca vaccine and blamed “the propaganda” for overstating the safety of the vaccine.
Clapton: “I took the first jab of AZ and straight away had severe reactions which lasted ten days. I recovered eventually and was told it would be twelve weeks before the second one.
“About six weeks later I was offered and took the second AZ shot, but with a little more knowledge of the dangers. Needless to say the reactions were disastrous, my hands and feet were either frozen, numb or burning, and pretty much useless for two weeks, I feared I would never play again, (I suffer with peripheral neuropathy and should never have gone near the needle.) But the propaganda said the vaccine was safe for everyone…”
“I continue to tread the path of passive rebellion and try to tow the line in order to be able to actively love my family, but it’s hard to bite my tongue with what I now know.”

And once he spoke his mind, how did his fellow musicians react? Clapton: “I’ve tried to reach out to fellow musicians."
“I just don’t hear from them anymore. My phone doesn’t ring very often. I don’t get that many texts and emails anymore. It’s quite noticeable.” He said he now feels “ostracised” after speaking out.

I got both shots of the Pfizer vaccine as soon as I could. I encouraged my family members and I everyone I know to do likewise. But I would not bully and mock those who choose not to. I am betting that the vaccine I got is safe, but who knows the future effects. 1 year ago, most of the major news outlets said that it was a crazy conspiracy theory that the virus started in a Wuhan lab. Now . . . not so crazy.

And this week, Bruce Springsteen announced a series of shows in NYC starting next week. But you must have proof of vaccination to attend. But proof of receiving the AZ vaccine will not be accepted.

What you are describing is Guillain Barre Syndrome, another nasty side effect of the AstraZeneca vaccine. All those naive people who believe and trust their government heeded the call of the government and got the vaccine without thinking or even questioning it. Like I wrote in another post these vaccines are not FDA approved which means they never went through complete phase 3 trials. Data was unavailable. They took it and many got the nasty side effects. These people were kind of like lab rats now all the reactions are coming out and up to now they got no idea what is causing it. That does not give me much faith in the government. I am a skeptic and will ask question after question. I will not bow down to the government. More things might be discovered as more data becomes available. They knew there would be nasty reactions but they were desperate to stop the spread of covid so they did it knowing that things will happen. My only beef is the way they are downplaying the the reactions and how they keep on saying they are safe. I do not believe they are entirely safe. Time will tell the full long term effects of these vaccines. More importantly when September arrives, we will know if these vaccines really work. Btw they are talking about the delta variant so a fourth wave is in the works. You last sentence described how political this is. AstraZeneca is not for profit which is the only reason I can think they are doing this. Probably they are being influenced by the government who is getting money from the pharma companies.