It was embellished to the max. They could have easily locked down people over 70 with preexisting conditions ( or anyone who wanted to ) and those with medical conditions, brought them their necessities paid their bills and let the rest of us go on with our lives and it would have saved billions if not trillions. Do a quick check for Canada deaths under 70, many other issues kill far more people than that.
You believe everything the government tells you? Lol It was a scam from day one, the vaccines did not even work. Many ppl who had 3 doses still got covid. Imagine a disease so deadly that you have to get tested even if there are little to no symptoms. But the government and pharmaceuticals made tons loads of cash of this fake pandemic and they are still trying to scare ppl to reinstate mandates. Want to see lies, look at CBC and CNN who spread lies for over two years about covid. They made it sound like doomsday, I went to the hospital, everything was as usual except the face diapers.
This is not the thread to debate libertarianism and anti-government philosophy - working it in to every post is extraneous and unhelpful. Let's stick to COVID, specifically COVID vaccines, shall we?
Enforcing mandates is about covid. And I never heard of a vaccine where you still get infected. When I travel to tropical countries, I take my vaccine shots and never got infected. Do keep on drinking the kool-aid though, whatever rocks your boat.
You just show up your ignorance in the way vaccines work. Infection always occurs before a vaccinated person can react. It is the infection that triggers the vaccines power to fight it. Whether you get symptoms is depending on the infectious agent and yes COVID is different from others, more potent. Fortunately, vaccines protect against the more severe disease. We can see it now as even if hospitalisations are increasing, it is pretty stable on the intensive cares requested.
Just because the government says so does not mean it is true. One has to use critical thinking and observe the reality. The main reason why severe disease is because the newer strains of covid are less lethal, not because of the vaccines. Many ppl who were quadrupled vaxxed still got infected. It was the same for the Spanish Flu, the newer strains were much less lethal. Destroying a society over a cold is ridiculous especially one with less then 1% mortality rate. Those who want to get vaxxed can do so, get 100 shots if that suits you but it is my body my choice. Talk about ignorance, the info are all on the medical sites. The government is still itching to reinstate mandates though.
It was proven that catching covid was better than the second booster shot.
Vaccines don't work based on what you have heard or what kool-aid you have consumed. It's science. It's immunology. A vaccine is not a suit of armor or a hazmat suit. Instead a vaccine has created a primed, awakened immune system ready to respond to an antigen.
Inflating stats, locking ppl up, forcing masks, and using vaccine passports is not science, that is politics. Do not confuse the two.
We are discussing the science of vaccines and suddenly you divert to an anti-government rant. Is it possible to stay on subject just once without an anti-government tirade?
How is that even possible when so much of covid is politics? You cannot remove one from the other because the two are interwined. And also doctors who openly challenged the political narrative were silenced, they were threathened to get fired. So how can you separate the two? You cannot cherry pick what to discuss, that is anti-science.
Why doing so much assumptions without any data to support them. We all know vaccinated people are more protected against severe disease. Hopefully most "at risk people" are vaccinated. Unfortunately, vaccines are less efficient on older people (80+) which immunological response is not as efficient as in 60 years old ones. For those people, "Paxlovid", an antibody drug is often the only way to help. Those infos, you will not find on conspiracy theorist sites but are easily accessible for people looking for scientific knowledge and not trying to push hidden political agenda. Observing reality is nice but understanding and explaining it needs more research and more knowledge. Not everybody is able or willing to do objective research when those are contrary to what they want to propagate to support their hidden agenda. Take out politic from your posts and we will see that not so much will remain.
Point well taken. What I can say is those who are quadrupled vaxxed still got infected. Imagine being promised a product and it is not doing what it was supposed to. This is how I see it. To conclude, ppl are entitled to do what they want with their bodies. Those who want to take the vaccines are free to do so, those who want to wear a mask are free to do so. Just leave me out of it, all I ask is to be left alone... No forced masks and no vaccine passports. I can take care of myself, I already have parents, I do not need the government to be my Grandma. Does not matter the reasoning, freedom is a right not conditional. My problem are with the mandates. That is all I got to say.
Once again the vaccine is doing exactly what it is supposed to do. A vaccine cannot prevent an airborne viral infection. What a vaccine can do is train and prepare your immune system to fight this virus. Once your immune system has produced antibodies to the virus through vaccination, you are ready to immediately produce sufficient neutralizing antibodies to a vital antigen that can keep you out of the hospital or the morgue.
The only one misleading people is the government. The problem is the politicization of a virus for personal and political gain. Vaccines is intended to protect the person getting the vaccine. This is common sense. If I do not get a tetanus shot it does not mean my friend will get tetanus. Besides forcing vaccines to make money, this is the government trying to put blame on someone else for their negligence. The mandates were also put in place because the healthcare system is broken. Capacity has not been increased to manage this rapid population increase (via excessive immigration and entrants of refugees). Hospitals were not overflowing, they just do not have enough staff to handle all these patients due to their mismanagement. This is a problem 30 years in the making. Mandates are very destructive to a society especially for a virus with less then one percent mortality. Legault has imposed a curfew on us twice even though no science backs up that curfews are effective at slowing down the spread of covid (covid only spreads at night? Lol). Yet he still did it. Quebec did have the most covid cases and the worst healthcare in the country so he imposed a curfew. This was him playing politics just to show he is doing something. Btw you never questioned as to why the covid vaccine contracts are kept secret? Up to today the details has not been released.
It’s should be for sure, just like the phony vaccines and mandates this thread is obsolete.
