Coronavirus

[donbusch]

Coronavirus-free Travel Bubbles between countries within which people can travel freely are being planned - first, the Trans Tasman bubble w/ Australia & NZ and now one in the Baltics. Somehow, w/ the truly fucked up Trump Administration coronavirus response, I don’t see the US being asked to join anytime soon.

Australia and New Zealand discuss possible trans-Tasman 'travel bubble'

New Zealand and Australia are discussing the potential creation of a "travel bubble" between the two countries, even as Australia on Monday reported its highest number of coronavirus cases in two weeks.

www.reuters.com

Baltics launch Europe's first pandemic 'travel bubble' as curbs ease

Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia opened their borders to each other at the stroke of midnight on Friday, creating the first "travel bubble" within the European Union in a bid to jump-start economies broken down by the coronavirus pandemic.

www.reuters.com

 

[sene5hos]

Dr. Anthony Fauci, the most respected voice of the US government on the new coronavirus, issued a stern warning Tuesday against a premature reopening of the United States, thereby contradicting the message the day before by Donald Trump.

Yesterday Trump disparaged Dr. Fauci.

We must not forget that he predicted more than 100,000 deaths. And me at the time I thought it was impossible and wacky. There we are at 86,000, 100,000 dead are approaching.

 

[gaby]

It's possible a vaccine can never be developed and l'OMS said this nasty virus could be with us for ever.....so possible we will have to live with.

 

[2fast2slow]

over 80% of cases/deaths are in the health system or in the old folks homes. rates are actually quite low in the general population. if we were in better control of the health system we could of deconfined more quickly. frustrating

 

[sene5hos]

Chloroquine is not effective against coronavirus, according to two studies.

Hydroxychloroquine has strong supporters, but in recent weeks, several studies have questioned the effectiveness of this molecule in the treatment of Covid-19.

It is also said that the side effects are very dangerous. Maybe this remedy is worse than the disease.

Trump put that in your teeth.
He said this product was the best.
Donald one day are you going to listen to the scientists?

 

[fromtheoutside]

As someone once said: health rather than money.

I don't even know what that means. Francisco d'Anconia said it best. Money is simply a tool of exchange, which requires goods and services to be produced and people who need them. What does it have to do with health? Money keeps your health care system afloat, gives you housing, food, public transit and all the essentials to survive. Then, for those who want a little more, with hard work, it gives them that.

I've never understood the generally unrelated comparisons between health and money.

 

[IamNY]

Montreal is the 5th city in the world where there are more cases / 100,000.

The John Hopkins map says that there's 74,782 total cases in Canada and 40,724 in Quebec. Where did you get that Montreal has 100,000 cases and it's the 5th largest city with covid?

 

[gaby]

...agree with 2f2s... à Montréal---épicentre du virus--ce sont les résidences pour personnes âgées qui sont les plus durement frappées-----et avec sûrement encore malheureusement beaucoup de mortalité à venir---mais même si le virus sévit aussi dans la population active il est moins dommageable.....ce que Legault craint c'est un DÉBORDEMENT de nos hôpitaux à Montréal.....les tendances des prochains jours seront significatives MAIS j'ai bon espoir de voir la réouverture des commerces se faire comme prévu le 25 Mai.....et je crois lire que Legault y tient vraiment.....cette situation tragique ne peut perdurer.....

 

[OnJustALark]

... Where did you get that Montreal has 100,000 cases and it's the 5th largest city with covid?

Likely "Fake News" ....

 

[Hiko]

The John Hopkins map says that there's 74,782 total cases in Canada and 40,724 in Quebec. Where did you get that Montreal has 100,000 cases and it's the 5th largest city with covid?

Case per 100 000 habitant

Edit: Oupsy as pointed out by jailmoon few post down it death.

 

[IamNY]

Case per 100 000 habitant

Could you please provide a link for that? I haven't been able to find one.

 

[gaby]

CUOMO just announced que le confinement for N.York city still on until the 13th of June at least....hiiiiiii

 

[jalimon]

[INFOGRAPHIE] Montréal est parmi les pires villes de la planète

Pendant que le reste du Québec est en mode déconfinement, la métropole est plus que jamais aux prises avec une situation critique.

www.journaldemontreal.com

It's actually death per 100k population.

But honestly these stats are not that representative. I know for a fact that many of those cities do not account for all death because they simply don't do the analysis... Many city in Mexico, Brazil, all over Africa, etc... most probably have or will have much more death but they are unaccounted for.

 

[Man911]

I wish I'm the only one. When I look to Arruda, I see the evil in him.
I trusted him at first, but now he seems the biggest liar in the world.

 

[gaby]

...for me ARRUDA ----cause he likes so much spotlight---dommage but he is more acting like a CLOWN....and lost credibility......too bad...and Legault prend maintenant ses distances....c'est lui le décideur et aux commandes.

 

[IamNY]

Sorry, more good news for the haters:

Unveiling vaccine effort, Trump says country will be back with or without one

President Donald Trump unveiled a crash effort on Friday aimed at developing a coronavirus vaccine by the end of the year but said the country would return to normal with or without one.

www.cnn.com

 

[sene5hos]

The John Hopkins map says that there's 74,782 total cases in Canada and 40,724 in Quebec. Where did you get that Montreal has 100,000 cases and it's the 5th largest city with covid?

Not 100,000 cases, per 100,000 inhabitants.
I deleted my post because I didn't find a valid link.

 

[minutemenX]

Sorry, more good news for the haters:

Unveiling vaccine effort, Trump says country will be back with or without one

President Donald Trump unveiled a crash effort on Friday aimed at developing a coronavirus vaccine by the end of the year but said the country would return to normal with or without one.

www.cnn.com

I think they will adapt what Patron has proposed earlier in this thread. The vaccine will be tested on prisoners (with or without consent) and the military. This was done many times during early years of the cold war and is not new. This is the “warp speed drive” in the new vaccine development as testing is a bottleneck. The test data will be secret, of course, and can’t be presented to the FDA, but they will find the way to approve it nevertheless. With deliberate infection of relatively modest size groups (around 200 people, half for vaccine and the other half for the placebo) the vaccine can be tested rapidly. This is the reason military is now in charge. They can keep it under wraps.

 

[IamNY]

Interesting, didn't catch that they slipped the part about the military at the end of most articles. Getting prisoners to volunteer shouldn't be an issue, they can always ask these California imates:

https://www.kxan.com/news/inmates-tried-to-catch-covid-19-to-get-early-release-from-jail-sheriff-says/

 

[sene5hos]

I don't even know what that means. Francisco d'Anconia said it best. Money is simply a tool of exchange, which requires goods and services to be produced and people who need them. What does it have to do with health? Money keeps your health care system afloat, gives you housing, food, public transit and all the essentials to survive.

You say that money keeps your health care system afloat, gives you housing, food, public transit and everything you need to survive.
So the rest of the reasoning is: with less money, your accommodation will be in areas where it is cheaper, therefore disadvantaged, for food it is even worse, more things cheaper and necessarily less good for health , and for everything else to survive, everything will be much less abundant.
As proof, during this pandemic, the districts of Montreal least affected are Outremont, and Roxboro, and the most affected are Villeray, St-Michel, Parc-extension, Côte-des-Neiges, Lasalle and Montreal-North