Coronavirus

[cloudsurf]

TNB as an educated individual I`m surprised that you could so easily dismiss scientific evidence as to the origins of most viral epidemics. Recent genetic science all but links the coronavirus to one that is found in a certain species of bat....one that was sold in the live markets of Wuhan.
Just because some Chinese (and some Africans ) have been eating bush meat for thousands of years doesn`t mean that humans haven`t had epidemics in the past and present caused by inter species virus and bacteria.
BTW can`t only blame Asians and Africans . Europeans did their share of passing on epidemics of smallpox and venereal disease to vulnerable populations of indigenous people.

 

[The Nature Boy]

Lol but cloudy, not sayin it didn’t come from bats. Take a gander @ article.

“The column says the officials were worried about safety and management weaknesses at the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) and called for more help.
It also claims diplomats were concerned the lab's research on bat coronaviruses could risk a new Sars-like pandemic. The newspaper says the cables fuelled more recent discussions in the US government about whether the WIV or another lab in Wuhan could have been the source of the virus behind the current pandemic.”

 

[minutemenX]

Research Reveals That COVID-19 Attacks Hemoglobin In Red Blood Cells, Rendering It Incapable Of Transporting Oxygen. Current Medical Protocols Could All Be Wrong!

https://www.thailandmedical.news/ne...-transporting-oxygen--current-medical-protoco

https://chemrxiv.org/articles/COVID...e_Metabolism_by_Binding_to_Porphyrin/11938173

 

[EagerBeaver]

Here is the Coronavirus current events quiz of the night.

With regard to funding for Coronavirus testing, who said "don't pass the buck, without passing the bucks"?

(a) Andrew Scheer
(b) A.J. Parkinson
(c) Andrew Cuomo
(d) Francois Legault
(e) Joe Biden
(f) Donald Trump
(g) Dr. Anthony Fauci
(h) Dr. Sanjay Gupta

 

[jalimon]

Cuomo but can you explain me what it means? There is no such expression in french.

 

[cloudsurf]

That was too easy Beav . You should have added a few more names like Dr Phil and Oz and Oprah. Judge Judy would be a good candidate too.
Jal, passing the buck means passing on responsibility but by not passing on the bucks (money) you are making the task near impossible. It wasn`t a compliment from Cuomo to Trump.
There is another expression made famous by a prior US President.....The buck stops here. Something not in Trump`s vocabulary.

 

[minutemenX]

Research Reveals That COVID-19 Attacks Hemoglobin In Red Blood Cells, Rendering It Incapable Of Transporting Oxygen. Current Medical Protocols Could All Be Wrong!

https://www.thailandmedical.news/ne...-transporting-oxygen--current-medical-protoco

https://chemrxiv.org/articles/COVID...e_Metabolism_by_Binding_to_Porphyrin/11938173

Debunked:

https://healthfeedback.org/claimrev...unsupported-and-implausible-andrew-gaiziunas/


Note to myself: not everything in print in the” scientific” journals is science

 

[anon_vlad]

The US now has about 33% of the world's Coronavirus cases, despite having barely 4% of the world's population. In particular, even socialist Canada, with our vastly inferior medical system, is doing much better proportionately. WHO's fault is it? Bill Gates, Chinese germ warfare, Chinese eating bats, Barak Obama, the media, the Impeachment, Democratic state governors, General Motors, thieving medical workers.....

It's not Donald's fault. The buck stops anywhere else. He takes, in his own words, "No responsibility".

 

[minutemenX]

The US now has about 33% of the world's Coronavirus cases, despite having barely 4% of the world's population. ".

The number of cases is proportional to the population and the density of testing (say # of testing per 1 million). Factor this in and the US is better than many European countries.

 

[The Nature Boy]

Errr, not Deutschland. Not even close

 

[minutemenX]

The US now has about 33% of the world's Coronavirus cases, despite having barely 4% of the world's population. In particular, even socialist Canada, with our vastly inferior medical system, is doing much better proportionately. .

OK. Let’s compare Quebec and the US

US- number of cases is 675000 per 328 M of population, i.e. 2057/M
Quebec- 16798 cases per 8.5 M. i.e. 1976/m
Deaths rate: US, 105.3/M, Quebec 81/M
Where is the MUCH BETTER difference?

 

[EagerBeaver]

There is another expression made famous by a prior US President.....The buck stops here. Something not in Trump`s vocabulary.

Harry Truman. Cuomo's statement "you can't pass the buck without passing the bucks" is rooted in Truman's famous statement, and in that respect, it was a dig at Trump.

I thought I would get one of the Canadian posters to bite on Scheer or Legault.

 

[EagerBeaver]

10 Nurses Suspended For Refusing To Work Without N95 Masks

Look at the photo in this article of 8 nurses, 7 with fists raised. What's up with the one who did not raise her fist? Did she manage to avoid suspension?

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/17/us/california-coronavirus-nurses-suspended-trnd/index.html

 

[cloudsurf]

I agree with the nurses. Every health care professional and first responder should have access to an N-95 face mask and an eye shield when they are dealing with a covid19 patient . That is minimal protection for themselves and their family in a highly dangerous and underpaid environment. Its a bloody miracle that more nurses aren`t protesting and aren`t quitting.

 

[jalimon]

In particular, even socialist Canada, with our vastly inferior medical system

No true. Yes Canada's health system is inferior to many developed countries. But of which the American health system is last.

 

[jalimon]

The number of cases is proportional to the population and the density of testing (say # of testing per 1 million). Factor this in and the US is better than many European countries.

As of now per million USA has tested 10,815. Italy 20,577. Germany 20,629. Switzerland 25,004. Canada 13,452. Iceland 115,859!
Cheers,

 

[anon_vlad]

OK. Let’s compare Quebec and the US........

Your argument belongs in a text of how to lie with Statistics. I compared the US with Canada, not the US with Quebec. Would you like me to compare Canada with NY state?

USA: Total Cases: 710K; Cases per IM: 2146; Deaths per 1M: 112

Canada: Total Cases: 32K; Cases per IM: 846; Deaths per 1M: 35

Roughly, Canada is doing 3X better.
I'm amazed that Trump defenders don't injure themselves with the contortions they perform to defend their circus clown.

 

[anon_vlad]

No true. Yes Canada's health system is inferior to many developed countries. But of which the American health system is last.

I was being sarcastic.

 

[minutemenX]

Your argument belongs in a text of how to lie with Statistics.............

I bet that at the end of this the mortality rate will be almost uniform in Western countries. This is like judging a hockey match among equal teams by the first 10 minutes.

 

[ShyMan]

"[FONT=&amp]Prime Minister Justin Trudeau says Canada and the United States have struck a deal to extend current border restrictions between the two countries by an additional 30 days.

[/FONT][FONT=&amp]"This is an important decision and one that will keep people on both sides of the border safe," Trudeau said at the top of his daily COVID-19 briefing Saturday [18/4/2020]."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-saturday-covid-19-update-1.5537251

The other main question is when will the airlines resume operations in any meaningful way. And when will consumers regain sufficient confidence to get on commercial flights again.
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