Coronavirus

[sene5hos]

I have nothing against cannabis, except for the smell, especially the one that smells of skunk.
I live in a condo complex. We voted against the consumption of cannabis, unless it's used therapeutically (capsules, oil whatever but no unpleasant odors).

Yes I imagine Trump and Fauci smoking cannabis. They who aren't on the same page about the coronavirus, and there with the pot, Trump wanting to hug Fauci in his arms, and Fauci with a relaxed face, answer him "Donald yes, if you have a mask"

 

[ShyMan]

I have nothing against cannabis, except for the smell, especially the one that smells of skunk.

I suspect many Covid-19 survivors, especially those who were on ventilators, might be prescribed cannabis for pain management and other conditions. Heck, I'd smoke weed if doing so would help immunize me against SARS-CoV-2

 

[sene5hos]

With the arrival of the coronavirus, the phenomenon of disinformation has come into force. There always have been.
But today more than ever groups have formed that believe the pandemic has been planned and exaggerated by the media.
There are a lot of fake news out there.

Conspiracy is everywhere.

What scares me the most is, paradoxically, the arrival of the vaccine. Even with the progress of research, the vaccine is still making headlines.
Anti-vaccines appear, having been in this area, I can guarantee that these people would probably have died from one of these diseases which no longer exist thanks to vaccines.

 

[The Nature Boy]

It’s very scary when real facts and science, even if it is reported by CNN is called made up bullshit and when people you know who are quite intelligent believe that conspiracy/liberal media/fake news bullshit spin

 

[IamNY]

During a surge of new COVID 19 Cases in California the politicians chose to focus on renaming an airport:

California Democrats pass resolution calling for John Wayne Airport to be renamed — Fox News

California Democrats in Orange County are demanding that the county's John Wayne Airport be renamed and all likenesses of Wayne be removed from the airport, over "racist and bigoted statements" made by the American icon decades ago.

apple.news

 

[maximus.dickus]

Greatwalooo you do not get it at all. What lead to this chaos?

If Trump was a great president he would have calm things down instead of infuriating everyone a little more.

Ho by the way Sene is absolutely rigth such manifestation will lead to a lot of spread of the virus yes. We know now such grouping of people is the worst for contagion.

Jalimon COVID trump est juste une manifestation d’un autre épidémie encore plus dévastatrice : celle de la stupidité.

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

For the virus I am not into the conspiracy thing, I do believe that it was not handled well by the officials though. In Canada they treated all the areas the same as Montreal/Laval, did not matter if you had 700 cases or 20,000 cases. Drummondville had 250ish cases and zero deaths and still total lockdown bankrupting businesses.
I also noticed that a few states has around 1,000 cases but still total shutdown.
IMO, once a month was up they should have altered policies to fit the area as long as hospitals were not overcrowded, that would have saved the countries billions of dollars.
From what I am hearing is that the state governors run their states, they decide what steps to take, why are some Americans blaming Trump for the numbers instead of people like Como who was clueless for all of this, he caused thousands of deaths.
Anyways, not a single person I know has had the virus or even knows someone who had the virus, weird.
My daughter worked through all of this seeing anout 350 customers during the shift, no mask, plexiglass or gloves, same with the girl at the liquor store I seen once a week, always there and working, again, weird.

 

[EagerBeaver]

My Covid test results just came back, NEGATIVE. Had to text all my coworkers that they are off the hook.

 

[The Nature Boy]

For the virus I am not into the conspiracy thing, I do believe that it was not handled well by the officials though. In Canada they treated all the areas the same as Montreal/Laval, did not matter if you had 700 cases or 20,000 cases. Drummondville had 250ish cases and zero deaths and still total lockdown bankrupting businesses.
I also noticed that a few states has around 1,000 cases but still total shutdown.
IMO, once a month was up they should have altered policies to fit the area as long as hospitals were not overcrowded, that would have saved the countries billions of dollars.
From what I am hearing is that the state governors run their states, they decide what steps to take, why are some Americans blaming Trump for the numbers instead of people like Como who was clueless for all of this, he caused thousands of deaths.
Anyways, not a single person I know has had the virus or even knows someone who had the virus, weird.
My daughter worked through all of this seeing anout 350 customers during the shift, no mask, plexiglass or gloves, same with the girl at the liquor store I seen once a week, always there and working, again, weird.

I remember you mentioning your daughter. She comes into contact with tons of peeps Saul. Has she ever been diagnostic or antibody tested?

 

[IamNY]

Why people feel the need to load up on toilet paper and paper towels is a mystery:

H-E-B limits toilet paper, paper towels as COVID-19 cases rise in San Antonio

H-E-B has placed purchasing limits on toilet paper and paper towels again, as more COVID-19 cases arise in San Antonio.

www.ksat.com

 

[sene5hos]

"I also noticed that a few states have about 1,000 cases, but still the total shutdown"
And the opposite is also true. Some states have lots of cases, and are not stopped.

My mother is in a CHSLD, she is in relatively good shape, she has passed through. When I was allowed to go back there, a lot of people were dead and my mother told me that a lot of attendants had had the covid, and that many had recovered, and others were too sick to return.
In the community, however, there have been far fewer cases.

"why are some Americans blaming Trump for the numbers"
The numbers are humans, 125,000 humans who died.
Let's see this is not a conspiracy, it is a fact.
Did you remember at the end of April when Trump told the people not to listen to the governors who did not want to deconfine. Trump and DeSantis who in April told the people of Florida that the coronavirus would go away on its own. Yesterday in Florida there were 10,000 new cases, these are just numbers???
So why are some Americans blaming Trump.

 

[EagerBeaver]

Let's not act like there were any good choices. There weren't. While reopening may have been quick, it saved many small businesses from bankruptcies and gave them a chance to adapt their businesses while making money. Any politician would have been criticized no matter what he or she did. The choices were also made not knowing what the course of the virus would be. It's easy now to look back with the clarity of hindsight and hammer any decisions that were made either way. But let's not behave like there were ANY good decisions to be made that were not going to be hurtful or harmful in some way.

It is a colossal waste of energy to play the blame game. The Covid 19 pandemic was going to come here and going to be bad, no matter what happened, no matter who was President and no matter who was Governor. All of the finger pointing is incredibly moronic and stupid. We need to focus on moving forward and developing better testing, better treatment, better social distancing mechanisms, and possible vaccines. Businesses now have to adapt to the Zoom era. It's going to be a long time we will be living like this.

 

[The Nature Boy]

It is a colossal waste of energy to play the blame game. The Covid 19 pandemic was going to come here and going to be bad, no matter what happened, no matter who was President and no matter who was Governor. All of the finger pointing is incredibly moronic and stupid. We need to focus on moving forward and developing better testing, better treatment, better social distancing mechanisms, and possible vaccines. Businesses now have to adapt to the Zoom era. It's going to be a long time we will be living like this.

Nah, I don’t agree. You guys have been goin through this for like 3 months. Take Jan and feb out. You can dump that on and say trumps cdc director and HHS minister failed him. It’s F’ing JULY almost!!!! He’s told people to look into disinfectant as treatment, pushed a med that had not had any science behind it. Sets a tone by not wearing a mask, tells people “we are post covid”, and held large campaign rallies where states are experience ridiculous surges while @ same time quarantining his secret service, contact tracing the shit out of his staff and testing all of them.

You can certainly point fingers @ him. James Buchanan is lookin real good and prob smiling cause he knows he movin up in the rankings

 

[IamNY]

I'm reading The Great Influenza by John M. Barry. A book that goes into incredible detail regarding the Spanish flu pandemic in the early 1900's. What I've found interesting is that although the pandemic was a hundred years ago many of the same tactics to contain the disease are exactly what we are doing today, a hundred years later. The medicine and treatments have evolved, but masks, social distancing, isolating, quarantine, etc. haven't changed at all. It was written in 2005 and it's incredibly detailed. What I also found interesting is that now that I am currently living through a pandemic I can really relate to all the stories. Highly recommended.

 

[EagerBeaver]

Nature Boy,

Do you really think that things would be all the much different? Your post assumes that everyone is paying attention, when in reality the exact opposite is true. There were going to be people that were not going to listen no matter who their leader was. It's true that none of the things Trump did helped matters, but had someone else been in charge there still would have been that huge pool party in the Ozarks and countless other stupidities. Furthermore we are seeing that Trump had very little influence over what each State chose to do. However, as of right now, almost nobody in the USA has been successful in fully containing the virus despite countless different approaches.

 

[EagerBeaver]

I'm reading The Great Influenza by John M. Barry.

I am reading The Andromeda Strain by Michael Crichton. Although it's a novel and was a major national bestseller that launched Crichton's highly successful career when published in 1970, it is more topical now than when it was published and blends scientific fact with fiction. The same kinds of mistakes that were made in containing an alien microorganism from a meteor that caused the pandemic in that book are now being made 50 years later. I read the book 30 years ago and now that I am reading it again, I think its even more pertinent and topical now than it was in 1970.

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

I remember you mentioning your daughter. She comes into contact with tons of peeps Saul. Has she ever been diagnostic or antibody tested?

She was tested a out a month ago for a new job she got.

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

Some of you may have forgotten about flattening the curve and what it is meant to do, drag this out. From what I have been reading is if you are meant to get this virus you will get it be it today or in two months, it makes sense a spike will happen once things open up but as long as hospitals are not overrun it should make no difference ( unless you expect to stay indoors forever )
Read about the Florida numbers last night...WOW.
Why is Como not taking any heat from this? He really blew a few of his calls, caused a lot of deaths.

 

[Fradi]

I agree I don’t think it would be much different with any President.
Day to day activities are run by the governors and it seems no two states can agree on anything.
Unfortunately it is a giant shit show which is not unique just to the United States.
Brazil, Sweden, the UK are not dealing with it much better to name a few. It took Boris a bout with reality to change his mind that it is no worse than the common flu and it won’t just disappear.
All politicians have their own greed and ambition in the forefront and that is why I think they are all scum and the trick is always to choose between who is going to screw you less.

 

[IamNY]

I am reading The Andromeda Strain by Michael Crichton.

thx EB. That’s my next book!