Asking girls for BBFS

[jalimon]

I had a girl from a very popular Montreal agency that rub me in cowgirl. It was really exciting but I had to stop her as her pussy was way to close to top part of my Johnson... She felt bad when I made her realize it was getting a bit risky. I said my god do not worry for once it's me stopping a girl from doing something

Cheers,

 

[freedom3]

I remember that, years ago (2011?), John of Eleganza posted a thread about this. I think it was titled "dramatic increase in requests for bbfs" or something like that. I thought it was made a sticky. He banned the people immediately. I think the names should be posted/shared. I definitely don't think an escort would lie about this. If she didn't want to see a particular guy again, she wouldn't need to give a reason or make anything up.

I feel bad for the escorts. When she refuses, and then they have sex, she would probably be thinking about it the whole time. This really has the potential to cause a lot of great escorts to leave the industry.

 

[BookerL]

La porno c'est chorégraphié comme la lutte professionnels.
L'escorting GFE c'est impulsif.

L'impulsion est-elle un bon guide ?


Au plaisir


Booker

 

[clark_larson]

La fiction imite la réalité ou l'inverse?

 

[BookerL]

C'est la ou ca prend l'éducation du risque ?

Le lutteur professionnelle est éduquer sur le risque physique de la chorégraphie/fiction ainkiller:






Au plaisir


Booker

 

[Doc Holliday]

damn...

Well a gangbang in Brazil is not really the same as LA porn industry ...

Scary indeed that she wanted to keep working as an escort...

The problem was that some of the gangbang participants had later come into sexual contact with actors/actresses connected to the LA porn industry, which included Quebec pornstar Judy Starr. Many actors/actresses were put into quarantine at the time. Judy tested negative but still had to be quarantined for a period.

 

[Doc Holliday]

@DocH: check your sources!

My sources are solid. Darren James was the one suspected of infecting Lara Rox during a gangbang. I never wrote that it was the other way around.

 

[Doc Holliday]

If I were offered BBFS in the hobby I would run for the hills.

A couple of years ago, i was advising an indy who was making a comeback in the business after many years being out of it. I explained to her not to be surprised if once in a while clients asked her about the availability of bbfs. Her eyes widened and she nearly had a panic attack when i told her this. "What????? Are you serious????", she said. I told her to calm down and simply be on her guard since although this type of stuff has always been around, it was getting more prevalent over the past few years. Within a month or so into her 'comeback', she told me during a dinner meeting that she remembered that i had warned her about this and said it had only happened once up to then, but said the client was very polite about it and took her answer well when she simply told him "No! Never!" She was glad i had warned her ahead of time these types of things might happen.

 

[Doc Holliday]

If I were offered BBFS in the hobby I would run for the hills.

To be honest, i don't see that much of a difference between people having casual 'unprotected' sex outside of the hobby (e.g. one-night stand, etc) and having it within the hobby. Are the risks greater?? A school of thought might say that the risks may be higher in the outside world, or as high.

 

[Doc Holliday]

I remember that, years ago (2011?), John of Eleganza posted a thread about this. I think it was titled "dramatic increase in requests for bbfs" or something like that. I thought it was made a sticky. He banned the people immediately. I think the names should be posted/shared. I definitely don't think an escort would lie about this. If she didn't want to see a particular guy again, she wouldn't need to give a reason or make anything up.

Your memory isn't failing you. I think it was prior to 2011, though. It was more between 2007-2009. But what i found hypocritical was that while he was outraged that a particular client had harrassed his girls in regards to bbfs demands and chose to make the matter public (in could have easily been dealt with behind closed doors), girls later told me that the agency owner himself would have bbfs with some of his girls, referring to him as a 'fucking hypocrite'.

 

[BookerL]

girls later told me that the agency owner himself would have bbfs with some of his girls, referring to him as a 'fucking hypocrite'.

Are you making a analogy of some sort here Doc ?




Cheers




Booker

 

[Loblaw]

If a SP is offering BBFS it is because she has nothing to loose.

 

[Halloween Mike]

To be honest, i don't see that much of a difference between people having casual 'unprotected' sex outside of the hobby (e.g. one-night stand, etc) and having it within the hobby. Are the risks greater?? A school of thought might say that the risks may be higher in the outside world, or as high.

Both are risky and unless you are in relationship and both of you are tested (and faitfull) i would recommand using protection.

Lets say doing BBFS in personal life is maybe a 3 bullet in the chamber russian roulette while in the hobby its a 5? Both are risky, the ods are just a little less in one case. Still i wouldn't take my chance personally for either lol

 

[westwoody]

If a SP is offering BBFS it is because she has nothing to loose.

Disagree.

There was a lady in Winnipeg who tried bb with many guys.
She climbed on me to do cowgirl and was just about to slide it in when I noticed she had removed the condom. I had seen her a few times. Did she do it before? It worried me enough that I never saw her again.
Others brought it up on PERB. She insisted it was all lies, but a dozen other guys all had the same story.

This was a very attractive, well educated and charismatic lady with a flourishing business.
Definitely not someone with "nothing to lose".
Who knows what her motivation was.

 

[pat98]

I remember her quite well. She worked for a very popular agency, although briefly, before contracting hiv during a gangbang filmed in Brazil.

The way this is said, it looks like Lara Fox got infected while doing porn in brazil while she in fact unfortunately got it in LA and it is now very probable that she got infected by James Darren.

My sources are solid. Darren James was the one suspected of infecting Lara Rox during a gangbang. I never wrote that it was the other way around.

I never say the other way too ... eace:

more information:
http://www.walnet.org/csis/news/usa_2004/torstar-040507.html

[FONT=&amp]On March 24, Roxx agreed to do an unprotected scene with Darren James — from whom she believes she contracted the virus — and an actor named Marc Anthony, even though she initially told the film's director she didn't want to do it.[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]His response, Roxx says, was: "That's what we need. Either do it or we'll find another girl who will.'"
[/FONT][FONT=&amp]Roxx shot five sex scenes with four men that day. "I didn't want to disappoint my agent," she says.[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]The next morning, Roxx woke up with a painful bacterial infection that forced her to cancel that day's shoot. Her health soon worsened. On April 10, Roxx visited a medical centre because of a sore throat and was diagnosed with viral pharyngitis.[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]Three days later she learned that James, who'd shot a movie in Brazil days before he filmed the scene with Roxx, had tested positive for HIV. On April 15, Roxx's test results confirmed she, too, was HIV positive.[/FONT]

 

[cloudsurf]

You have to feel bad for her. She was manipulated into doing something that endangered her health and career for a couple of thousand dollars. Sad

 

[somethingelse]

You have to feel bad for her. She was manipulated into doing something that endangered her health and career for a couple of thousand dollars. Sad

I think this is exactly what James and most of us want to avoid happening again to anyone else. Educate the girls so they don't accept BBFS (even for $$$). Punish the clients who try BBFS or offer $$$ for it.

 

[pat98]

I think this is exactly what James and most of us want to avoid happening again to anyone else. Educate the girls so they don't accept BBFS (even for $$$). Punish the clients who try BBFS or offer $$$ for it.

amen to that! agree 100%

 

[rollingstone]

Montreal remained one of my most favorite places to play and blow off steam despite the fact that I moved to the other side of the world and have much closer and cheaper options. One of the reasons for this was confidence in the general level of sex ed and confidence that bbfs was not rampant in the Mtl scene. I've been to parts of the world where women think taking a shower after sex means you won't get pregnant. I'd never touch anyone there because the overall culture facilitates the spread of STDs. HIV is the chief concern, but as Hanna mentioned a lax culture will require things like CBJ to become the norm again because no one wants that super strain of gonorrhea.

 

[ShyMan]

If a SP is offering BBFS it is because she has nothing to loose.

Ask yourself if you are really confident "playing" Russian Roulette that when you pull the trigger, there is no bullet in the chamber.

I remember (several years ago) my buddy telling me about a dude who knew he had HIV going around having unprotected sex with females and men. The local media reported that the health agencies reached out to a couple of dozen potential victims to have them tested.

As as someone said earlier in this thread: if a dude (or lady) engages in BBSF with an SP, he's either a moron or has a death wish. I'd add to that warning: the dude may know he's HIV positive and trying to spread and kill others -- (misdirected) Revenge!