Am I changing or is the industry changing?

[kkrack]

I can still satisfy my last minute urges, it's just that overall I think some agencies have been eliticized. I guess there is more demand for some girls overall.

I just go where it suits my needs. These days I prefer quantity over quality. I quite frankly do not care to take the time to know the girl. The stories are the same most of the time daddy issues and broken dreams. I prefer to skip that part and go straight to the act.

 

[Valentina Amante]

There’s no conspiracy, I don’t know anyone personally. Not you too, just what I see you tweet, it was legit all of my feed for a while. If you think that’s a major difference ok good for you. You’re still criticizing partakers of the industry, that’s my point.

People know that I cannot stand woke ideology, left / neo-liberalism and new age feminism. It has affected this industry. There’s no secret… good thing most clients don’t like it either. Makes the job easier for me.

 

[Rebaynia]

I’ve repeated it time and time again. Yes. I didn’t say they aren’t. I suggested they should advertise in a different section. That is all.

It's funny how you clipped out the very part that answers that very comment. Maybe your miss representing calling yourself an escort then???

We fall under what the modernized version of the word is, your shitting on them for holding true to tradition for what it is. Who out of the 2 are missrepresenting. And I say this wholly thowing myself under the bus with you because I don't do dates either.

 

[Jacobisrael]

Ymmv regarding the tik tok?

The age. 26-30 are less brainwashed compared to 18-22 from my experience

 

[Salbandini]

The age. 26-30 are less brainwashed compared to 18-22 from my experience

Ahhh ok. Ya the brainwashing is worse in those ages, but i get your point

 

[Salbandini]

I can still satisfy my last minute urges, it's just that overall I think some agencies have been eliticized. I guess there is more demand for some girls overall.

I just go where it suits my needs. These days I prefer quantity over quality. I quite frankly do not care to take the time to know the girl. The stories are the same most of the time daddy issues and broken dreams. I prefer to skip that part and go straight to the act.

Hahah. Bang on . Lets not forget And add
To
Your points the blow weed molly and vape .

 

[Valentina Amante]

It's funny how you clipped out the very part that answers that very comment. Maybe your miss representing calling yourself an escort then???

We fall under what the modernized version of the word is, your shitting on them for holding true to tradition for what it is. Who out of the 2 are missrepresenting. And I say this wholly thowing myself under the bus with you because I don't do dates either.

It’s not that I cropped out. I’m just tired of explaining.

Here is the last example I’m gonna give:

- We SPs don’t like it when OF / cam girls advertise online only in our ad spaces, correct? ✅ it makes it harder for us to be seen.

- Clients are most likely NOT searching for OF / cam girls on ESCORT sites. Correct?
Correct ✅

- Clients are MOSTLY searching how to hook up with a girl for money on an ESCORT site. ✅

- Clients have to sift through a series of ads that may be a MIX of cam girls / arm candy girls that barely offer any intimacy (depending on restrictions) along with the girls that are ready to succ lmao (restrictions also vary).

My point is - it has become a long and arduous task to find a girl that a client may even like based on looks > donations > services > restrictions.

This is why the “arm candy” girlies should have their section for gents that desire more of a social setting / outings. (Not saying they won’t fuck for 5 min. at the end either lmao)

The girls that get down to business and want to cater to intimacy clientele without talking for hours (which is PRIMARILY what clients want) should be in a separate section. This way, the clients won’t be bombarded with so many different girls and infos and restrictions.

I can see why all these choices can deter men from hobbying. ESPECIALLY when some men are on a budget and really are looking to NOT TALK for an hour and waste their heard earned cash on deception. Girls that do this knowingly shouldn’t be in this industry because they ruin it for the good ones. The clients won’t want to hobby ever again.

And saying the industry changed and this is what girls want isn’t it either. OP gave no choice for clients to disagree. It’s “The new era” now supposedly. No it’s not.

 

[Enjoying life]

It’s not that I cropped out. I’m just tired of explaining.

Here is the last example I’m gonna give:

- We SPs don’t like it when OF / cam girls advertise online only in our ad spaces, correct? ✅ it makes it harder for us to be seen.

- Clients are most likely NOT searching for OF / cam girls on ESCORT sites. Correct?
Correct ✅

- Clients are MOSTLY searching how to hook up with a girl for money on an ESCORT site. ✅

- Clients have to sift through a series of ads that may be a MIX of cam girls / arm candy girls that barely offer any intimacy (depending on restrictions) along with the girls that are ready to succ lmao (restrictions also vary).

My point is - it has become a long and arduous task to find a girl that a client may even like based on looks > donations > services > restrictions.

This is why the “arm candy” girlies should have their section for gents that desire more of a social setting / outings. (Not saying they won’t fuck for 5 min. at the end either lmao)

The girls that get down to business and want to cater to intimacy clientele without talking for hours (which is PRIMARILY what clients want) should be in a separate section. This way, the clients won’t be bombarded with so many different girls and infos and restrictions.

I can see why all these choices can deter men from hobbying. ESPECIALLY when some men are on a budget and really are looking to NOT TALK for an hour and waste their heard earned cash on deception. Girls that do this knowingly shouldn’t be in this industry because they ruin it for the good ones. The clients won’t want to hobby ever again.

And saying the industry changed and this is what girls want isn’t it either. OP gave no choice for clients to disagree. It’s just. The new era now supposedly.

I’m having a great time with agencies and Indy’s here but I have my budget and it works for me

 

[Lunaseraphim]

Lmao no I already sell pussy and ass - I wanna be modest.

I'm glad you're modest you can join the trad wife movement

 

[Lunaseraphim]

It’s not that I cropped out. I’m just tired of explaining.

Here is the last example I’m gonna give:

- We SPs don’t like it when OF / cam girls advertise online only in our ad spaces, correct? ✅ it makes it harder for us to be seen.

- Clients are most likely NOT searching for OF / cam girls on ESCORT sites. Correct?
Correct ✅

- Clients are MOSTLY searching how to hook up with a girl for money on an ESCORT site. ✅

- Clients have to sift through a series of ads that may be a MIX of cam girls / arm candy girls that barely offer any intimacy (depending on restrictions) along with the girls that are ready to succ lmao (restrictions also vary).

My point is - it has become a long and arduous task to find a girl that a client may even like based on looks > donations > services > restrictions.

This is why the “arm candy” girlies should have their section for gents that desire more of a social setting / outings. (Not saying they won’t fuck for 5 min. at the end either lmao)

The girls that get down to business and want to cater to intimacy clientele without talking for hours (which is PRIMARILY what clients want) should be in a separate section. This way, the clients won’t be bombarded with so many different girls and infos and restrictions.

I can see why all these choices can deter men from hobbying. ESPECIALLY when some men are on a budget and really are looking to NOT TALK for an hour and waste their heard earned cash on deception. Girls that do this knowingly shouldn’t be in this industry because they ruin it for the good ones. The clients won’t want to hobby ever again.

And saying the industry changed and this is what girls want isn’t it either. OP gave no choice for clients to disagree. It’s “The new era” now supposedly. No it’s not.

Ok here we go. I agree with you on most of this except I don't know what you mean by arm candy girl. If a guy doesn't want to talk im not gonna talk lol I don't think OP had malicious intent. She was trying to make people be positive because everyone's always complaining here.

 

[Valentina Amante]

Ok here we go. I agree with you on most of this except I don't know what you mean by arm candy girl. If a guy doesn't want to talk im not gonna talk lol I don't think OP had malicious intent. She was trying to make people be positive because everyone's always complaining here.

There’s a reason why clients* are complaining.
It means they’re not getting the service they requested.
False advertisement.

 

[MoreGonzo]

It’s not that I cropped out. I’m just tired of explaining.

Here is the last example I’m gonna give:

- We SPs don’t like it when OF / cam girls advertise online only in our ad spaces, correct? ✅ it makes it harder for us to be seen.

- Clients are most likely NOT searching for OF / cam girls on ESCORT sites. Correct?
Correct ✅

- Clients are MOSTLY searching how to hook up with a girl for money on an ESCORT site. ✅

- Clients have to sift through a series of ads that may be a MIX of cam girls / arm candy girls that barely offer any intimacy (depending on restrictions) along with the girls that are ready to succ lmao (restrictions also vary).

My point is - it has become a long and arduous task to find a girl that a client may even like based on looks > donations > services > restrictions.

This is why the “arm candy” girlies should have their section for gents that desire more of a social setting / outings. (Not saying they won’t fuck for 5 min. at the end either lmao)

The girls that get down to business and want to cater to intimacy clientele without talking for hours (which is PRIMARILY what clients want) should be in a separate section. This way, the clients won’t be bombarded with so many different girls and infos and restrictions.

I can see why all these choices can deter men from hobbying. ESPECIALLY when some men are on a budget and really are looking to NOT TALK for an hour and waste their heard earned cash on deception. Girls that do this knowingly shouldn’t be in this industry because they ruin it for the good ones. The clients won’t want to hobby ever again.

And saying the industry changed and this is what girls want isn’t it either. OP gave no choice for clients to disagree. It’s “The new era” now supposedly. No it’s not.

100% agree with this statement

 

[Lunaseraphim]

There’s a reason why clients* are complaining.
It means they’re not getting the service they requested.
False advertisement.

Maybe but my conscience is clear. I provide what's in my ad. Its not my business what others are doing honestly.. there's a lot of hearsay too. I don't have an issue with booking clients personally and I'm sure you don't either so there's no problem. I also highly doubt OP is disappointing her clients.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

Anyways I'm done. You guys have successfully convinced me to never interact here again.. have a lovely evening.

 

[Rebaynia]

There’s a reason why clients* are complaining.
It means they’re not getting the service they requested.
False advertisement.

And merb is where they come to express that in reviews. Still not sure what that has to do with any of the providers here. We are here, and like you, have heard their grevences. All we can do, is not replicate the same. But how someone chooses to advertise themselves, with or without social time. Doesn't change they are a SP too. In person service is, in person service, whether it includes social time or not. I get the online complaint for them to have their own space, it's not a face to face touching eachother expierience.

But yes many of my clients I get while advertising in the same space as you, complain about aggressive slutty advertising, and I mean that in all good ways as it is what your clients are craving. But the advertising belongs next to eachother so the different people can see all their options, and pick which suits them best. That includes picking people who advertise dates too, as some of those clients are also looking for someone to take out to this or that thing happening, and might not wish to go alone, but also want bedroom activity to be included.

You are boxing all clients into the looking for only sexual encounters when they aren't all looking for just that. Why should those clients have to figure out what special title what they are looking for is classed under. They want escort, the title covers a wide array.

 

[urquell]

So you came here, a thread designed to point out the positives of the state of affairs in escorting, and the fact that we are able to set our boundaries, to go on a rant about people who aren't even on merb. You completely derailed the positive message and attention this thread was intended to have, buy thowing accusations of entitlement And stuff people unafiliated with merb are doing.



I don't personally go on dates, when asked, I have opted for private dates in the 1 location without the need to travel. Being in public is something I tend to avoid. But I didn't understand OP to mean to try to change the state of things. It was an expression of something they liked being able to appreciate about the change in times.

You are taking someone's positive views on how they see it as a joy, to what? Shame them for expressing they like another aspect than the intimacy, in this business.

We know why they call us. We count on them calling us for that reason, but we appreciate other expieriences we have with our lovelies than just the bedding aspect.

I haven't seen you actually answer what

What do you like about this new era?

We know what you don't like. But that wasn't the question.

Rebaynia, I'm going to qualify this by saying that I think you're an intelligent and level headed woman, and I rarely disagree with you on most anything, but I think you missed it here. I suppose it's a matter of perspective. The OP listed a bunch of things that taken from the client point of view can only be considered as negative, not positive. The things that were listed as positive were listed as positive from the OP's point of view as an SP, for a select type of clientele, after a list of negative things, and then followed by another negative statement saying this is what it's becoming whether you like it or not. While from a subjective view I can see why this would be considered a positive in the state of affair in escorting for an SP, from a generally objective view this just simply isn't the case, and you see guys here regularly complaining about stuff mentioned in the OP (lack of availability, difficulties booking, rates, quality etc., etc.). This is a celebration from the OP and that's fine, but the implied inability to escape the progress of the industry from the point of view of the client is untenable, and projecting it onto the client base seems wrong to me.

So, again this a case of perspective, but what do the men in general see that's positive about this new era as described in the OP? Virtually nothing for the greater portion of the men. This doesn't invalidate what the SPs who do like the changes feel, but given the greater target audience on this particular forum the OP isn't a positive OP. Again, it's all in the POV. If we step outside the bubble and look in then Valentina's central comments about the men in general are 100% correct, and are probably inarguable if we're all being honest. Having said that, as a separate point getting mixed up in this how SPs choose to approach their client base is their own business and nobody else's, and there is no wrong answer. I'm not going to take any sides on any of the other stuff that guys are arguing about. Mom only raised a mildly stupid child, not a complete idiot.

 

[Rebaynia]

Rebaynia, I'm going to qualify this by saying that I think you're an intelligent and level headed woman, and I rarely disagree with you on most anything, but I think you missed it here. I suppose it's a matter of perspective. The OP listed a bunch of things that taken from the client point of view can only be considered as negative, not positive. The things that were listed as positive were listed as positive from the OP's point of view as an SP, for a select type of clientele, after a list of negative things, and then followed by another negative statement saying this is what it's becoming whether you like it or not. While from a subjective view I can see why this would be considered a positive in the state of affair in escorting for an SP, from a generally objective view this just simply isn't the case, and you see guys here regularly complaining about stuff mentioned in the OP (lack of availability, difficulties booking, rates, quality etc., etc.). This is a celebration from the OP and that's fine, but the implied inability to escape the progress of the industry from the point of view of the client is untenable, and projecting it onto the client base seems wrong to me.

So, again this a case of perspective, but what do the men in general see that's positive about this new era as described in the OP? Virtually nothing for the greater portion of the men. This doesn't invalidate what the SPs who do like the changes feel, but given the greater target audience on this particular forum the OP isn't a positive OP. Again, it's all in the POV. If we step outside the bubble and look in then Valentina's central comments about the men in general are 100% correct, and are probably inarguable if we're all being honest. Having said that, as a separate point getting mixed up in this how SPs choose to approach their client base is their own business and nobody else's, and there is no wrong answer. I'm not going to take any sides on any of the other stuff that guys are arguing about. Mom only raised a mildly stupid child, not a complete idiot.

I appreciate how your expressing the other side. I do fully admit that from what I know of how things were done in the past, is a decade behind the expressed era in question. I can only compare today's expierience with 2001, not 2010. My guess is in 2010 the very same benefits I see today we're available. We didn't have this back then, and it was a very shady business with very many shady characters in charge back then.

I still stand by the advertisers may advertise however they see fit. It is up to the person looking, yes threw the endless options, to find what suits them.

I see how what was said could be taken. Though I understood it to be more teasing than gloating. Intent can be lost in the written word. I just kind of always filter LC threw an upbeat teasing let's get positively charged intent when I read her posts.
I did my own breakdown of the OP, I did see lines I didn't apply to my own business or beliefs, but gave my own version, I wasn't around in that timeframe spoken of in 2010. But know I am just as grateful for the times having been changed since 2001. The burnout was quick back then.
what I was understanding was the progress from the OP. And understood jabs to be shots at comedy.

 

[EastWind]

Covid alone really reshaped the foundations of this hobby.

1. The popularity of OnlyFans. No need to suck cock and make many times more.
2. Now with OnlyFans removes much of the stigma of sex work. With the potential to make exorbitant amounts of money in such a short period of time.
3. SPs for one now have more control of their business.
4. With less of a stigma women in this business I have noticed are willing to show their faces.

 

[LC18]

I sense a lot of resentment coming from certain members, dare I say hatred even. I don’t know what’s so infuriating with dinner dates or vacations.

That’s his money, my time. Both consenting adults have agreed to that exchange…

 

[LC18]

The only thing I will agree with is that online services do not belong on advertising platforms. They’re really deceitful and redundant