Agency girls versus Indy girls?

[LeDodo]

I dont book indy girls. To be honest I dont see why anybody would.

Agency :
- far less scams. That alone is the closing argument for me.
- girls on average more attractive than the average indy (debatable, but a lot of girls turned away by agencies will go indy)
- its safer for both parties, especially the SP to have some protection.
- less of a hassle to book
- way cheaper for some reason.

Not sure what the pros are for booking an indy but im happy to hear your comments. I definitely could be wrong.

Well you're not wrong nor right.

There all type of preferences out there. You just have your selection criteria to find what's best for you. Other people have other selection criteria.

That's also the reason that SP either in agency, MP, indies, etc can still exist and co-exist.

I don't see really the point to argue which one is better than another. It's like saying my preference is better than yours.

 

[Rockey001]

i have been booking SPs for 3 years now in montreal. All are from Agencies.

May be i am wrong. But when comparing the cost we pay agencies charge from 250-280. Indy charges minimum 400$. 150$ difference is not a joke. Even i had the intention of trying few indy out of curiosity what they offer in special. But when i reached out, hardly i get replies from them. I don’t want to say names here. Even if they reply back they expect us to book some specific date and time. No immediate or same day booking.

Its not like ones preference is better than others.

Yet i am just trying to see what is the value i get after waiting for 2-3 days and pay extra 150-200$

 

[LeDodo]

But when i reached out, hardly i get replies from them. I don’t want to say names here. Even if they reply back they expect us to book some specific date and time. No immediate or same day booking.

Its not like ones preference is better than others.

Yet i am just trying to see what is the value i get after waiting for 2-3 days and pay extra 150-200$

When I reach out to Indies I rarely have any issues getting feedback.

I might be very lucky or doing something right

 

[Universe knows]

i have been booking SPs for 3 years now in montreal. All are from Agencies.

May be i am wrong. But when comparing the cost we pay agencies charge from 250-280. Indy charges minimum 400$. 150$ difference is not a joke. Even i had the intention of trying few indy out of curiosity what they offer in special. But when i reached out, hardly i get replies from them. I don’t want to say names here. Even if they reply back they expect us to book some specific date and time. No immediate or same day booking.

Its not like ones preference is better than others.

Yet i am just trying to see what is the value i get after waiting for 2-3 days and pay extra 150-200$

Why do indies girls would do same day bookings ?
Something that I noticed is that most indies have jobs , careers, go to school , some are business owners etc . They do escorting on the side . Have many source of income.
They give exclusivity . A personalized experience from clients to clients. They are not in a rush. Sometimes they become very close to their clients.
They choose who they see and avoid blacklisted clients .
They value quality over quantity and a good connection with their client.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

i have been booking SPs for 3 years now in montreal. All are from Agencies.

May be i am wrong. But when comparing the cost we pay agencies charge from 250-280. Indy charges minimum 400$. 150$ difference is not a joke. Even i had the intention of trying few indy out of curiosity what they offer in special. But when i reached out, hardly i get replies from them. I don’t want to say names here. Even if they reply back they expect us to book some specific date and time. No immediate or same day booking.

Its not like ones preference is better than others.

Yet i am just trying to see what is the value i get after waiting for 2-3 days and pay extra 150-200$

A lot of indies charge less than 400 and sometimes are available same day. ''they expect us to book some specific date and time''.. yeah because we don't work shifts. My incall is far from my place, and I'm already very busy. It's always the same thing, people complaining about rates, screening and us not being immediately available like Uber Eats.. These discussions just go nowhere.

If I could accommodate same day bookings I would.. sometimes I can. These days it's difficult honestly but that might change. I also can't see every single client who teaches out. Sometimes people are rude and contacting me in a sketchy way, I'm not going to put myself in danger just to please everyone.

 

[Torycats]

A lot of indies charge less than 400 and sometimes are available same day. ''they expect us to book some specific date and time''.. yeah because we don't work shifts. My incall is far from my place, and I'm already very busy. It's always the same thing, people complaining about rates, screening and us not being immediately available like Uber Eats.. These discussions just go nowhere.

If I could accommodate same day bookings I would.. sometimes I can. These days it's difficult honestly but that might change. I also can't see every single client who teaches out. Sometimes people are rude and contacting me in a sketchy way, I'm not going to put myself in danger just to please everyone.

Hey Luna, the comparison between agency and indy is meant as a pros and cons between the two. If a client finds the booking process painful and pricing-to-value poor with indys, its their own experience and money and thats just that... we dont need to know your underlying reasons why you cant always see your clients or that you are tired of hearing people complain lol. Sorry but we're getting sidetracked here.

Thanks everybody who replied to my question. From what I gathered so far in most answers people who choose indys do so mostly for a more personal, less mass production type of encounters which is understandable. They often do so with SPs they know, who are well reviewed to make sure they dont get scammed.

Conversly, agency seem to offer better pricing, easier booking and generally less scams/more consistency. Potentially better looking providers though jury still out on that one. I hope they maintain guidelines for std screening as well.

Thanks again!

 

[LC18]

I think we all pretty much answered OP’s question which was:

thoughts on whether Indy girls are hotter or better bodies than the agency girls?

 

[Lunaseraphim]

Hey Luna, the comparison between agency and indy is meant as a pros and cons between the two. If a client finds the booking process painful and pricing-to-value poor with indys, its their own experience and money and thats just that... we dont need to know your underlying reasons why you cant always see your clients or that you are tired of hearing people complain lol. Sorry but we're getting sidetracked here.

Thanks everybody who replied to my question. From what I gathered so far in most answers people who choose indys do so mostly for a more personal, less mass production type of encounters which is understandable. They often do so with SPs they know, who are well reviewed to make sure they dont get scammed.

Conversly, agency seem to offer better pricing, easier booking and generally less scams/more consistency. Potentially better looking providers though jury still out on that one. I hope they maintain guidelines for std screening as well.

Thanks again!

I wasn't replying to you. But thanks for your input. lol clients absolutely have the right to prefer the booking process of agencies and the cheap prices, but there's a way to say that neutrally.
I just want to say that I'm not speaking for myself only, this is also the opinions of my colleagues. I'm not the only one who replied to that comment.

 

[Torycats]

I wasn't replying to you. But thanks for your input. lol
I just want to say that I'm not speaking for myself only, this is also the opinions of my colleagues.

Alright well i thought by reviving this thread i became the new OP but i can see how that was a little narcissistic. Sorry. Carry on

 

[CLOUD 500]

I go for agency girls. Because of the ease of booking. I can send a simple text to book (Hi. My name is xxxx and I would like to book a two hour appointment for so time?), I do not have to write in a way that many Indys demand to please them, some ask to tell about yourself or want to know your race, not interested in doing that. No LinkedIn, no government IDs, no deposits. Simply put I do not have to jump hoops to spend my hard earned money.

Then of course the big price difference. And agencies have standards for GFE service but most Indys are YMMV. Some Indys do list their menus but most are vague.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

Alright well i thought by reviving this thread i became the new OP but i can see how that was a little narcissistic. Sorry. Carry on

I have nothing else to say

 

[Universe knows]

I go for agency girls. Because of the ease of booking. I can send a simple text to book (Hi. My name is xxxx and I would like to book a two hour appointment for so time?), I do not have to write in a way that many Indys demand to please them, some ask to tell about yourself or want to know your race, not interested in doing that. No LinkedIn, no government IDs, no deposits. Simply put I do not have to jump hoops to spend my hard earned money.

Then of course the big price difference. And agencies have standards for GFE service but most Indys are YMMV. Some Indys do list their menus but most are vague.

They are YMMV because they are not robots and they don’t follow rules for every client they meet . Like I said before they provide a well personalized experience for each client.
In many Asian agencies they have some protocol and rules for service and what they provide to clients.
Many clients don’t like to feel like they are on a scripted scenario, some prefer spontaneous encounters.
There are indies who see Elite clients who prefer discretion. I doubt any elite client would book agency girls.
There are clients with disabilities who see indies too for various reasons too.
There are clients who seek a best friend from time to time and don’t want deal with the hassle and like discretion.
Etc .
Agency is good if you are looking for a same day booking , or you have nothing to do with discretion.

 

[Torycats]

Agency is good if you are looking for a same day booking , or you have nothing to do with discretion.

Hey universe, how are agencies less about discretion? In my (limited) experience, agencies dont require any information whereas indys practically ask for your CV lol. But i want to know your own experience

 

[CLOUD 500]

They are YMMV because they are not robots and they don’t follow rules for every client they meet . Like I said before they provide a well personalized experience for each client.

That is fine and dandy but I am expected to pay the full donation whether I got the services I am seeking or not? At $500/hr I pass my turn. At $250/hr that is much more okay if the service is not up to my standards I am seeking. I stated my own personal reasons. Whatever rocks your world. It is a free market, whatever rocks your world.

In many Asian agencies they have some protocol and rules for service and what they provide to clients.
Many clients don’t like to feel like they are on a scripted scenario, some prefer spontaneous encounters.

That is how I like it. If I pay I expect certain services like DFK and BBBJ.

There are indies who see Elite clients who prefer discretion.

Looool What is an elite client in your own words?

I doubt any elite client would book agency girls.

Agency is good if you are looking for a same day booking , or you have nothing to do with discretion.

There is nothing discreet about Indys. They want a government ID or LinkedIn. To me agencies are much more discreet. It is a no hassel booking, no name required either. It cannot get more discreet then that.

 

[Universe knows]

Hey universe, how are agencies less about discretion? In my (limited) experience, agencies dont require any information whereas indys practically ask for your CV lol. But i want to know your own experience

For example : Mr X , is a well known and very successful person. He books Indy Y because he doesn’t want to go to an incall location where he will more likely to meet people who will recognize him quickly.
In addition many indies signed some NDA with some clients too.
They see celebrities too . The list is long.
Plus they have to protect their workplaces.


You can check Sonia Von S website or Madison Winter TO to understand a little bit about their clients. Etc .
Your consistent question just show that you don’t know why indies do what they are doing.

 

[Universe knows]

That is fine and dandy but I am expected to pay the full donation whether I got the services I am seeking or not? At $500/hr I pass my turn. At $250/hr that is much more okay if the service is not up to my standards I am seeking. I stated my own personal reasons. Whatever rocks your world. It is a free market, whatever rocks your world.

That is how I like it. If I pay I expect certain services like DFK and BBBJ.

Looool What is an elite client in your own words?


There is nothing discreet about Indys. They want a government ID or LinkedIn. To me agencies are much more discreet. It is a no hassel booking, no name required either. It cannot get more discreet then that.

You are not an Elite client . And it shows. You don’t understand the Elite codes .
The example about your expectations in rates are fair enough for your situation.

 

[Torycats]

For example : Mr X , is a well known and very successful person. He books Indy Y because he doesn’t want to go to an incall location where he will more likely to meet people who will recognize him quickly.
In addition many indies signed some NDA with some clients too.
They see celebrities too . The list is long.
Plus they have to protect their workplaces.


You can check Sonia Von S website or Madison Winter TO to understand a little bit about their clients. Etc .
Your consistent question just show that you don’t know why indies do what they are doing.

Lol i love the very unnecessary "ending on a patronizing note" from a new member. Im very aware and explicit that i dont book indys or know their world which is literally why i asked people their opinion

Please understand that we are comparing options on a escort board. Lets keep this from the perspective of the typical merb client.

Maybe you should familiarize yourself with agencies. Many of them: You book, you show up at the adresse, and do your thing. Often at a changing location / short term rentals. There, you dont typically cross paths with anyone except the provider.

As for the rich and the famous, you would be surprised how many of them use agency girls

 

[Universe knows]

Lol i love the very unnecessary "ending on a patronizing note" from a new member. Im very aware and explicit that i dont book indys or know their world which is literally why i asked people their opinion

Please understand that we are comparing options on a escort board. Lets keep this from the perspective of the typical merb client.

Maybe you should familiarize yourself with agencies. You book, you show up at the adresse, and do your thing. Often at a changing location / short term rentals. You dont typically cross paths with anyone except the provider.

As for the rich and the famous, you would be surprised how many of them use agency girls

Lol i love the very unnecessary "ending on a patronizing note" from a new member. Im very aware and explicit that i dont book indys or know their world which is literally why i asked people their opinion

Please understand that we are comparing options on a escort board. Lets keep this from the perspective of the typical merb client.

Maybe you should familiarize yourself with agencies. You book, you show up at the adresse, and do your thing. Often at a changing location / short term rentals. You dont typically cross paths with anyone except the provider.

As for the rich and the famous, you would be surprised how many of them use agency girls

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The only agency that I know that is extremely strict and Elite is this one.
They vet hard and there is less discretion because the agency screen and do some matchmaking.
But with an independent, the client data goes only to the provider not the staff .

 

[Lunaseraphim]

If I may allow myself to make one last comment.. and this isn't to create further animosity but just to explain my view of things.

I'm not one to call anybody ''elite'', and I don't judge anybody for seeing agency girls nor do I feel like I'm better than these girls. I have clients who see girls from agencies, even regulars. I just think there's a lot of generalizations and assumptions here. Not all indies ask for ID, many of us do bare minimum screening and I know a lot of indies who don't screen at all, and many of us offer genuine GFE or PSE or both. Another misconception is that there is a ''typical client'' or even a ''typical merb client''.. A lot of guys who found me here are actually lurkers or barely ever post, but they still discovered me on merb. That's why a lot of indies advertise here and why some of us participate in conversation. A lot of men are actually scared of saying their opinion because they know they will get bullied by other men and it kinda creates an echo chamber. I've seen guys here complain that some members & lurkers don't write reviews. Well, that's why.

For instance I feel like this thread was revived specifically to make the point that agency girls are more attractive and give better service than indies lol it's kinda petty. It's obvious that indies are going to come here and want to defend themselves but will be outnumbered by active board members, I guess you got your entertainment of the evening. Putting myself in a client's shoes, I totally understand why it could feel more convenient to book through an agency and I have no judgement to make about that, but that doesn't remove the fact that the service indies offer is valuable and there's no point in comparing. Also, I'm realizing that it's kinda pointless for me and others to comment on this thread because no matter how many people say they prefer agency girls those of us who don't struggle with getting booked will still get booked on a regular basis as indies..

 

[Johnny test]

can we close now this iteration of the same question till someone reopens it in a couple of months?