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AnthonyAnderson

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Some guys try to find a “professional girlfriend” and “chemistry”. I really cannot understand that.
Often these guys will suffer from a lack of affection or be in a vulnerable affective state (for various reasons). They may have been left by a girlfriend and did not have success finding a new one. They get attached easily. "Chemistry" happens naturally (the mysteries of human attraction...). They may become attached easily. It's a two-way street, too. Some escorts may be willing to financially exploit these vulnerable clients as well by feeding into their illusions.
 

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Often these guys will suffer from a lack of affection or be in a vulnerable affective state (for various reasons). They may have been left by a girlfriend and did not have success finding a new one. They get attached easily. "Chemistry" happens naturally (the mysteries of human attraction...). They may become attached easily. It's a two-way street, too. Some escorts may be willing to financially exploit these vulnerable clients as well by feeding into their illusions.
It is a game at the end of the day. You just gotta understand it.
 
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Jacob Israel

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No just facts, one thing I've never done ever is b******* and exaggerate something that happened in my life to make it sound better than it was. I never do that never have never will. But the fact is, Eleganza had the best escorts then, and even what they have today, here in Montreal, John was awesome, who ran that company. He knew how to pick them for sure , no duds , ever
That’s a lesson in life: Enjoy the present moment. Always always.
 
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Jacob Israel

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Hey Jacob , if you don't mind me asking, have you ever Been married or in a serious relationship... That's when you find out how a woman can go from 0 to 100 in b**** minutes i can tell you from experience.Haven't been in 7 serious relationships and lived with all of them.You never know a person truly to you live with them for around a year,Very true,habits, tendencies, maybe some past comes out of the closet...a whirlwind of a ride for sure...good luck my man
Never married relationship yes. I see what you mean and you are right.But it’s irrelevant to the conversation. Let’s stay in the conversation which was lack of talent. You sure never know someone until you live with them and even less in one hour.
 

Wildstar

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Take Luna of Luxury as an example. Eleganza level in terms of looks. Service and personality wise reading from the reviews? Like WTF is this.

I can assure you, "WTF is this" was a very common thought I had during her, uh, service.

People trying to mix the 2 or confuse them is another reason why it is becoming shitty.
Some guys try to find a “professional girlfriend” and “chemistry”. I really cannot understand that. They try to idealize the prostitute hence why many want “no tattoos”. I think that is the reason why some don’t want to leave bad reviews or walk on eggshells. They don’t want to “hurt” her reputation when she doesn’t give a fuck about the client. A good chunk wouldn’t even say hi to them on the street if they were to see them while they get defensive when someone “attacks” the professional gf.
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One of my first reviews here, a poster with a very strong affection for girl I reviewed misread/misunderstood my very positive review and went on a tirade about how bad the review was, how amazing the provider was, and then shared a whole bunch of cringe facts about himself and his interactions with the provider.

Unfortunately (?), these exchanges are lost to posterity as the mods understandably cleaned the thread, but it was an illustrative for how attached (delusional) some people get over what are commercial transactions at the end of the day, not Romeo and Juliet.

So on the one hand, we have white knights riding to the rescue, and on the other, we have guys who are not candid in reviews whether for fear of hurting the girl, hurting their relationship with the booker, or whatever.

A very unfortunate mix, setting aside the quality/quantity issues that prompted this thread.
 

Salbandini

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Agree, some men read women better than others and some men are naive and some men have not had a lot of women in the real world. Other than SP world. Honestly, I wouldn't worry about it. You're not gonna always have a good time. When that door opens just the way it is. Take it for what it is and pick something you like.And go for it , don't worry about anything else, when she walks in you get about forty five minutes unless you blow more time talking about whatever...no pun intended...
You can tell by the reviews that alot of the men on this site havent had women in the real world. And not just on this site people who frequent escorts in general . Some are cheaters, i dont some dont wanna hear that but thats a fact. And others lonely. I think another poster brought that one up. The gfe is that. Its pretend , but alot of people cant differentiate fantasy to real life like jacob said
 
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Salbandini

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Underlying fundamental of all this. The convergence of dating and the hobby. The spread has never been this narrow. With social media legitimizing prostitution and also shitting on dating/relationships at the same time. So girls are prostituting themselves while thinking they are not prostituting because she is not sucking dick. Then on the dating front both women and men see all of this as a business transaction.

So in retrospect both civilian dating and the hobby has gone down further down the shitter.

Correct me if I am wrong!
This is an excellent point. Well said . Especially the part “With social media legitimizing prostitution and also shitting on dating/relationships at the same time. So girls are prostituting themselves while thinking they are not prostituting because she is not sucking dick. Then on the dating front both women and men see all of this as a business transaction.”
 

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People trying to mix the 2 or confuse them is another reason why it is becoming shitty.
Some guys try to find a “professional girlfriend” and “chemistry”. I really cannot understand that. They try to idealize the prostitute hence why many want “no tattoos”. I think that is the reason why some don’t want to leave bad reviews or walk on eggshells. They don’t want to “hurt” her reputation when she doesn’t give a fuck about the client. A good chunk wouldn’t even say hi to them on the street if they were to see them while they get defensive when someone “attacks” the professional gf.
Can actual real relationship happen; yes but it’s a minute tiny percentage like really really small.
The way towards it is to treat as it is a business transaction. It baffles me that some get attached to someone they don’t know their real age, real name or real origins.
The prostitute game is trying to get as much money from the client. The client tries to get as much mileage as he can.
The second you idealize is when you fuck up and we are seeing this more and more.
P.S: I am not anti the profession you just gotta know and understand how to navigate it or else you are screwed.
One thing the hobby taught me is once you reach that ultimate with a woman you have to let her go. So I would never get into some sort of quasi-relationship with an SP like see her multiple times for years. For me three times is the max with the final is the goodbye dinner. Thank you for coming into my life but you have to move on. The hobby is to fill that time of void but would never replace a an actual relationship. May help you to get your mojo back if you properly manage this. Well that is how I approach the hobby.
 

Jacob Israel

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I can assure you, "WTF is this" was a very common thought I had during her, uh, service.



One of my first reviews here, a poster with a very strong affection for girl I reviewed misread/misunderstood my very positive review and went on a tirade about how bad the review was, how amazing the provider was, and then shared a whole bunch of cringe facts about himself and his interactions with the provider.

Unfortunately (?), these exchanges are lost to posterity as the mods understandably cleaned the thread, but it was an illustrative for how attached (delusional) some people get over what are commercial transactions at the end of the day, not Romeo and Juliet.

So on the one hand, we have white knights riding to the rescue, and on the other, we have guys who are not candid in reviews whether for fear of hurting the girl, hurting their relationship with the booker, or whatever.

A very unfortunate mix, setting aside the quality/quantity issues that prompted this thread.
Btw many respectable SPs told me that they look down on these types of guys. So if they think they are doing something good they are lost lol.
One thing the hobby taught me is once you reach that ultimate with a woman you have to let her go. So I would never get into some sort of quasi-relationship with an SP like see her multiple times for years. For me three times is the max with the final is the goodbye dinner. Thank you for coming into my life but you have to move on. The hobby is to fill that time of void but would never replace a an actual relationship. May help you to get your mojo back if you properly manage this. Well that is how I approach the hobby.
Yes those are my ways of approaching it as well. No point seeing the same escort 50-100 times lol.
 
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Jacob Israel

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So lets see,everyone has their favorites,I say if its awesome and chemistry is good,why not,but on the flipside,average price SP $270 × 50 =$13,500 ...so you either funded her part of her college education,partial down payment for a home,or a car, trips, new clothes, jewelry,etc.And the Indies are even killing it more,no overhead hence agency...
To each their own. We are just wired differently I guess.
 
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I can assure you, "WTF is this" was a very common thought I had during her, uh, service.
I saw the pic in the advertisement section I was like WOWZERS! Then checked the website I was deeply impressed. Came back on Merb to check the review(s). I said to myself.... these minutes I spent to check and read up on her. I would never get those minutes back.
 

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I think that most of us who were enjoying Montreal around 15 years ago will agree that the scene in general was better back then. I'm sure it's a constellation of factors, many of which have been discussed above. Let me toss out an idea. Fifteen years ago, it was routine to encounter women who were new to escorting. Some were green, awkward, uninterested, but a surprising number seemed carefree, out for a good time. A few were actual college students making some money on the side (imagine!). In my experience, they sometimes had no idea how to act like professional sex workers; some enjoyed having sex and getting paid, and they seemed entirely unburdened by it. Those experiences felt "light" to me--and fun.

It's that *carefree* attitude that I haven't encountered lately. It may simply be that I was lucky during that "golden age" or that I've been unlucky in the last couple years, but it's gotten me thinking. One difference is that a 21 year old woman in 2005 spent much of their teens without the ugliness of social media, the ubiquity of online pornography, and the repulsiveness of unsolicited dick picks. I'm not suggesting that women were free from the obnoxious pressures of toxic masculinity back then, hardly, but rather that a 21 year old woman today has grown up with a very different social and sexual environment--and one that might alter her perception of escorting. I'm not sure--a thought!
 

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My $0.02….. Montreal 2026 may be inferior to 2016 or 2006, but objectively as someone who has seen escorts in at least 4 other countries Montrealers have it very, very good. A much better mix of agencies and independents and in general much less suspect conditions than you encounter elsewhere. Honestly think value is as good as it is elsewhere in the world and imho better.
 

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Excellent analysis @talkinghead . Let's not forget the pandemic. A 21 year old in 2025 was 15-18 during lockdowns. The negative psychological impacts were felt particularly strongly among teenage girls. They grow up more anxious and with underdeveloped social skills. It's not only escorts, obviously. I notice many young female cashiers with blank facial expressions. Life was not like that 15 years ago. I feel sorry for them.
 

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Excellent analysis @talkinghead . Let's not forget the pandemic. A 21 year old in 2025 was 15-18 during lockdowns. The negative psychological impacts were felt particularly strongly among teenage girls. They grow up more anxious and with underdeveloped social skills. It's not only escorts, obviously. I notice many young female cashiers with blank facial expressions. Life was not like that 15 years ago. I feel sorry for them.
I think this is absolutely spot on.
 

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There is great talent in agencies, but what can explain this relative paucity of  new talent in 2025-2026? I want thoughtful answers only drawing from the fields of sociology, social work, psychology and economics. Forget the OnlyFans hypothesis as it's only a small minority making a lot of money there. If there are any erudite members or PhDs among us, it's your time to shine. Go!

1. Trauma from the covid lockdowns is a major part of it.
Drove young women (18-25 year olds who would have been 13-20 during lock downs) to cell phones.
Now they have limited facility with social cues.
Zero doubt kids are having way less sex than we did at that age.
(H/T to those who made these points earlier).

2. AA's OF thesis is bang on.
Few make it there.
A lot of them B&S by posting on LL, to get you to subscribe.

3. But hobbying budgets have also plunged.
Top talent (Eleganza level) girls can get men to buy them anything they want IRL WO escorting.
Most will only SP if there is real money to be made.
 

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Zero doubt kids are having way less sex than we did at that age.
(H/T to those who made these points earlier).
I recently saw a short video interview by a sociologist a few days ago,she wrote a book about this and it seems this specific assumption isn't true. I was surprised too. I'll find some references if anyone's interested.
 
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I recently saw a short video interview by a sociologist a few days ago,she wrote a book about this and it seems this specific assumption isn't true. I was surprised too. I'll find some references if anyone's interested.
It's behind a paywall and from 2018, but the first time I heard about this "sex recession" amount young people (Americans in this case) was from this article. I haven't come across (or looked for) more recent data.

Young People Are Having Less Sex - The Atlantic https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/12/the-sex-recession/573949/
 
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1. Trauma from the covid lockdowns is a major part of it.
Drove young women (18-25 year olds who would have been 13-20 during lock downs) to cell phones.
Now they have limited facility with social cues.
Zero doubt kids are having way less sex than we did at that age.
(H/T to those who made these points earlier).

2. AA's OF thesis is bang on.
Few make it there.
A lot of them B&S by posting on LL, to get you to subscribe.

3. But hobbying budgets have also plunged.
Top talent (Eleganza level) girls can get men to buy them anything they want IRL WO escorting.
Most will only SP if there is real money to be made.
The covid lockdowns had a huge effect on society in general. I find people in all are more greedier and meaner. Also youth crime has exploded. There are more crimes being committed by youth. People with mental illness has also exploded hence the big rise in homeless.
 
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