Why isn’t “BJ only” a standard service?

Rebaynia said:

I think the issue is he doesn't want to pay the price of a regular visit, and is looking for a discount because there is no penetration.

A bj is just as much work, if not more than GFE. Looking to pay less is the issue, not the trouble of finding an SP who will accept a bj only session. That is common for us. His issue in the OP is looking for the BJ ONLY price that isn't regularly offered by everyone.


Thing is even cockworship would fall under GFE. There is a difference between bj, and cockworship.

There are providers who advertise bj only sessions when they have a menu, but the majority don't want to make reduced price visits for it. It falls under their regular base price.

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urquell said:

I would argue that cockworship is a completely separate service, and would be classified separately..maybe like Tantra or some fetish stuff. Totally agree that it's harder work and requires more direct attention. I hate to see the term GFE degraded though, and turned into this catch-all dumping ground for anything considered "supplemental". We might as well change the meaning from "girlfriend experience" to "Gotta Fork-out Extra", because that seems to be what it's turning into.

I would think that you advertise cock-worship as a separate, individual service, price accordingly and leave it at that. Anyone who is advertising "cock-worship $25 extra" isn't going to be anyone worth seeing

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Rebaynia said:

You and me, we see terms of GFE as different topics. You see it as the acronyms, I see it as the overall atmosphere of visit. There is adoration and desire to please, she needs to enjoy worshiping the cock, or it isn't cockworship. I also don't see it as an extra, because to me that's just a damn good bj being offered.

Providers set their lowest willing prices in their ads. Just because it doesn't say bj only session, doesn't mean they don't offer it, often it is just this is the lowest price they are willing to go, and this is the upper most they will do at that price. You are more than able to ask for less. But accept that the price quoted doesn't change unless the provider says otherwise on your request. It's just about communicating expectations in the booking process.

Who knows they might have a lower price for it when you suggest it is what you want, and they just don't want to advertise it because they don't want to find themselves, just doing that all day every day. It's why discussions happen during booking.

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urquell said:

I think you missed the part where I agreed how much work cock worship is. The people I know usually charge either the same or more for it than regular FS, not less. I wasn't the one looking for lower prices. I also don't view cock worship as merely a BJ, or a BJ session. Since it's not a widely advertised service around here I understand that perceptions can be different though. Still, I view it as a premium service worth more, not less, but I make a clear distinction between CW and a "BJ only session"

As for the GFE thing I stand by what I said. I think it's becoming more and more of a catch all term and for many ladies an excuse to charge more without offering more in what is to me is becoming an undesirable a-la-carte environment, the same thing that basically stopped people going to Mexico to play. I totally understand that the ladies are not going to view it this way and will push back on that characterization but I'll just point out that I'm far from the only one, even on this board, who sees it that way.

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Rebaynia said:

That is why communication when booking is important. Clarity of desires and expectations. Asking if something you would like is part of their GFE, because everyone has their own things they allow it to cover, not everyone is out to call everything an extra, and have their own ways of doing things.

You might find out someone else's definition of GFE might not be as rigid and cold as your definition, and might actually be something more in the end than you would expect it to be. It is obviously a term that means very different things depending who is useing it, and it needs clarification by anyone who uses it what it stands for for them.

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Modnar said:

However, I still think that a BJ only service (under my definition) should be (significantly) cheaper than FS as it takes much less time, effort and involves less risks for everyone involved.

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Modnar said:

Looks like this thread went in a different direction than I originally intended, maybe because of my lack of precision.

Honestly, this was a simple question that came to mind after reading another thread, specifically @Skym 's comment: "Go in for a quick blowie and leave with a smile on your face & an empty nut sack lol." As someone new to this hobby, I naively wondered, "If there are providers offering FS, surely there are also providers who offer only a BJ, right?" I assumed that a BJ only service would be more common, given that, in terms of "intensity", I think we can all agree that it falls somewhere in the middle of a scale that goes kiss < bj < fs < greek.

I should also stress the fact that when I say BJ only I mean a quick BJ to completion, including HJ if needed. I did not mean cock workship, mainly because I wasn't even aware of that term as I'm pretty vanilla (although it was also mentioned in the other thread). I completely agree that CW sounds very demanding and shouldn't necessarily be cheapear than FS. I also agree with @urquell that CW (and also BJ only) should be classified separately and not as an extra/discount from FS. However, I still think that a BJ only service (under my definition) should be (significantly) cheaper than FS as it takes much less time, effort and involves less risks for everyone involved.

Lastly, I want to insist that my question is why such a service is not standard, and not about me being cheap. For most current SPs including such a service might not make sense, specially if they're already happy with their FS rates and bookings. But I could see it being a good, lower-effort (not in a bad way, I hope the thread doesn't change direction again because of this one comment) option for some providers, or even as their exclusive service if they aren't comfortable with FS.

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Modnar said:

I still think that a BJ only service (under my definition) should be (significantly) cheaper than FS as it takes much less time, effort and involves less risks for everyone involved.

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Modnar said:

my question is why such a service is not standard

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urquell said:

She still has to do all the same get-ready stuff and if you're using an incall that needs to be set up etc.

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Giselle Montreal said:

Maybe because it doesn’t take as little time, effort, or risk as you think it does.

I would add that when meeting a new client, whether it is for 30 minutes or 5 hours, the risk of him being a bad, violent client exists. So just the risk of meeting a stranger in an intimate, vulnerable setting is high in itself and is worth a lot of money. Now, the health risk is also present since gonorrhea and syphilis can be transmitted in the throat, along with all the infections that only requires skin contact. Some clients will also take advantage of a position to try to put their finger in your ass, pussy, or try to rub your clitoris in a clumsy, hurtful way, maybe try to kiss you and grab your boobs under your bra even though he was only interested in a blowjob.

Having a penis inserted in my vagina is not the hardest part.


That too.

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Modnar said:

Looks like this thread went in a different direction than I originally intended, maybe because of my lack of precision.

Honestly, this was a simple question that came to mind after reading another thread, specifically @Skym 's comment: "Go in for a quick blowie and leave with a smile on your face & an empty nut sack lol." As someone new to this hobby, I naively wondered, "If there are providers offering FS, surely there are also providers who offer only a BJ, right?" I assumed that a BJ only service would be more common, given that, in terms of "intensity", I think we can all agree that it falls somewhere in the middle of a scale that goes kiss < bj < fs < greek.

I should also stress the fact that when I say BJ only I mean a quick BJ to completion, including HJ if needed. I did not mean cock workship, mainly because I wasn't even aware of that term as I'm pretty vanilla (although it was also mentioned in the other thread). I completely agree that CW sounds very demanding and shouldn't necessarily be cheapear than FS. I also agree with @urquell that CW (and also BJ only) should be classified separately and not as an extra/discount from FS. However, I still think that a BJ only service (under my definition) should be (significantly) cheaper than FS as it takes much less time, effort and involves less risks for everyone involved.

Lastly, I want to insist that my question is why such a service is not standard, and not about me being cheap. For most current SPs including such a service might not make sense, specially if they're already happy with their FS rates and bookings. But I could see it being a good, lower-effort (not in a bad way, I hope the thread doesn't change direction again because of this one comment) option for some providers, or even as their exclusive service if they aren't comfortable with FS.

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Modnar said:

Looks like this thread went in a different direction than I originally intended, maybe because of my lack of precision.

Honestly, this was a simple question that came to mind after reading another thread, specifically @Skym 's comment: "Go in for a quick blowie and leave with a smile on your face & an empty nut sack lol." As someone new to this hobby, I naively wondered, "If there are providers offering FS, surely there are also providers who offer only a BJ, right?" I assumed that a BJ only service would be more common, given that, in terms of "intensity", I think we can all agree that it falls somewhere in the middle of a scale that goes kiss < bj < fs < greek.

I should also stress the fact that when I say BJ only I mean a quick BJ to completion, including HJ if needed. I did not mean cock workship, mainly because I wasn't even aware of that term as I'm pretty vanilla (although it was also mentioned in the other thread). I completely agree that CW sounds very demanding and shouldn't necessarily be cheapear than FS. I also agree with @urquell that CW (and also BJ only) should be classified separately and not as an extra/discount from FS. However, I still think that a BJ only service (under my definition) should be (significantly) cheaper than FS as it takes much less time, effort and involves less risks for everyone involved.

Lastly, I want to insist that my question is why such a service is not standard, and not about me being cheap. For most current SPs including such a service might not make sense, specially if they're already happy with their FS rates and bookings. But I could see it being a good, lower-effort (not in a bad way, I hope the thread doesn't change direction again because of this one comment) option for some providers, or even as their exclusive service if they aren't comfortable with FS.

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