I dunno... For me it mean he just want "full service" aka no kissing, cbj, no daty etcMaybe no GFE as no tchitchat like with a girlfriend. Maybe a FFE? As in Fuck Friend?
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I hate 60 mins dates, I live far and im trying to discourage people from booking that length
Far as in far from Montreal but you meet in Montreal?
I can relate. Even if we are opposite as you are the provider and me the client. If anything Montreal took a toll on me the latest years ...
Why not more providers travel to Sherbrooke? Lol. Question for another time.
Sadly tough in my case unless like you 2h is super close to 1h i will always have to book 1h... I mean when 2h is like 90% 2x1h or such.
Hi Mike. Long story short: The economics of booking long encounters in order to get acquainted for a GFE don't work for me usually. I won't book someone I never met IRL then go strait into it without spending time with them first.
So, I usually stick to Bbbj.
It works for others, but not for me. To each their own.
With traffic it can take 1h15 to get to my incall so staying for 1h only doesn’t make sense. I’ll have spent more time in my car than on a dick
I always see the same conversations around rate and ''the value of conversation'' and we always say the same thing...
When I entered the industry, I preferred having a few short bookings a week, I didn't vibe with my clientele as much and didn't have as much experience either. I also hosted from home and worked from massage parlors, which is super different. I would often see 3 to 8 clients a day on my MP shifts which was really exhausting to me. But I remember that it was less tiring for me to see many clients for less amounts of time at parlors. I often dreaded the 1 or 2h sessions. As for home, I could accommodate last minute dates much easier.
Some providers want a high volume of clients, but they want less demanding sessions, either physically or emotionally. Sometimes long bookings can feel really emotionally charged and some people in the industry just don't have the emotional bandwidth for that. So I get 100% why somebody would charge way more for longer dates, particularly with certain types of clients. An example of that is a client I used to have who booked me for 2 hours, but wanted 5 shots every time. I was in pain by the end of the booking. Or somebody who tells you about their trauma and expects you to entertain them for hours.
After a year I decided to prioritize longer bookings and less of them, and I started making it more advantageous for the client to book longer dates. Until last summer, my 2h rate was 500, which is the same as agencies or even a little lower. I don't regret raising my rates since them but I think it's smart that I was doing that, it attracted a lot of clients who tend to book longer sessions at agencies, and this can either be a good or a bad thing depending on what type of guy you want to see. I think one area where I truly shine in this industry (aside from the obvious lol) is that I am good at connecting with people, and really often clients who want to spend more time with me have noticed that we have things in common or subjects they are curious to talk about with me.
As I move forward in this industry, I want to prioritize a certain type of experience. I can't afford ditching the regular hour booking and it's still one of the most popular booking length, but I can understand why others do, or why some others have a very high hourly rate. I don't drive and it takes me an hour to get to my incall, then it takes me at least 30 minutes to get ready, and 30 minutes to clean afterwards. If I only have one hour session in the whole day, that's about 4 hours of my time.
It doesn't make sense for someone who has chosen to be low volume to have a cheap hourly rate, and it also makes sense for them to have a 90 min or 2 hour minimum. At some point when you are reputable and gain more freedom, it's kinda normal to orient your branding in order to have certain types of sessions more than others. There's always going to be people who can offer a 1h date at the last minute, and others who are a bit less ''accessible''.
When I entered the industry, I preferred having a few short bookings a week, I didn't vibe with my clientele as much and didn't have as much experience either. I also hosted from home and worked from massage parlors, which is super different. I would often see 3 to 8 clients a day on my MP shifts which was really exhausting to me. But I remember that it was less tiring for me to see many clients for less amounts of time at parlors. I often dreaded the 1 or 2h sessions. As for home, I could accommodate last minute dates much easier.
Some providers want a high volume of clients, but they want less demanding sessions, either physically or emotionally. Sometimes long bookings can feel really emotionally charged and some people in the industry just don't have the emotional bandwidth for that. So I get 100% why somebody would charge way more for longer dates, particularly with certain types of clients. An example of that is a client I used to have who booked me for 2 hours, but wanted 5 shots every time. I was in pain by the end of the booking. Or somebody who tells you about their trauma and expects you to entertain them for hours.
After a year I decided to prioritize longer bookings and less of them, and I started making it more advantageous for the client to book longer dates. Until last summer, my 2h rate was 500, which is the same as agencies or even a little lower. I don't regret raising my rates since them but I think it's smart that I was doing that, it attracted a lot of clients who tend to book longer sessions at agencies, and this can either be a good or a bad thing depending on what type of guy you want to see. I think one area where I truly shine in this industry (aside from the obvious lol) is that I am good at connecting with people, and really often clients who want to spend more time with me have noticed that we have things in common or subjects they are curious to talk about with me.
As I move forward in this industry, I want to prioritize a certain type of experience. I can't afford ditching the regular hour booking and it's still one of the most popular booking length, but I can understand why others do, or why some others have a very high hourly rate. I don't drive and it takes me an hour to get to my incall, then it takes me at least 30 minutes to get ready, and 30 minutes to clean afterwards. If I only have one hour session in the whole day, that's about 4 hours of my time.
It doesn't make sense for someone who has chosen to be low volume to have a cheap hourly rate, and it also makes sense for them to have a 90 min or 2 hour minimum. At some point when you are reputable and gain more freedom, it's kinda normal to orient your branding in order to have certain types of sessions more than others. There's always going to be people who can offer a 1h date at the last minute, and others who are a bit less ''accessible''.
Maybe I'm wrong but I feel like most cities in Quebec are not super lucrative for indies.. I have a lot of requests to travel to Quebec, but I've never had anybody ask about Sherbrooke. If I had a car and could drive, I'd definitely travel to other cities to meet clients because I love moving around, but that's not possible for me. I think Shantie does this but I am not sure.
Unless we go dance in Val-d'Or, Montreal is the most lucrative. Compared to the rest of Canada, it's the least.
Edit: maybe not the least, but one of the leasts compared to the other big cities.
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Is there an expectation that for 3 hour bookings, a certain amount of time is is spent chilling and not on sex? and if so, how much?
Ive booked 3 hours a few times with only 2 SPs...one of them was down to go as much as I could (2h15 out of all 3) and the other expected more than half the sesh to be more social (telling me to "relax, we've been going at it forever")
I can respect an SPs wishes on this because getting pounded or doing other acts for that long is exhausting...but itd be nice to know if theres a general rule.
Ive booked 3 hours a few times with only 2 SPs...one of them was down to go as much as I could (2h15 out of all 3) and the other expected more than half the sesh to be more social (telling me to "relax, we've been going at it forever")
I can respect an SPs wishes on this because getting pounded or doing other acts for that long is exhausting...but itd be nice to know if theres a general rule.
That’s why you gotta communicate with the SP instead of assuming it’s gonna turn into a sex marathon.
Personally, the second a guy starts texting like “So… is there a limit to MSOG?” and hinting at a 3-hour nonstop pounding session, I already know he’s expecting a lot of me and I tell them right away it won’t work out if that the case.
I’m totally down to have fun and go multiple rounds, but breaks, water, and conversation are appreciated. Otherwise I might as well charge $69,000 for the deluxe endurance package of 3H. I value my sanity. To be honest my RBF would reveal I’m not having a good a time hahaha so I wouldn’t be up for it.
However… my RBF magically disappears at $69,000 for 3H. Any takers?
It depends on the person I’m with, some people even on 90 mins they’d be talking half of it. I don’t set a limit but I don’t want to be shamed or get an angry reaction if I take a break or tell the person I’m exhausted.
Some people are just naturally exhausting in the way they have sex
I don't have talents as a dancer lol .. Montreal is definitely the most lucrative in Quebec, and we even see here how a lot of people come here with high expectations for services that are cheaper than in other major cities.
Hey maybe they used more cheese and sauce!
Honestly, it depends on the client and I want these expectations to be clear. I don't think there is a set amount of time dedicated to chilling and a set amount of time reserved for sex.. In my opinion the whole point of longer bookings is to chill and get to know each other and take it slow, without feeling rushed. Most of my clients who book 2+ hours, even 90 minutes, expect to just hang out at first. It feels like a real date, and that's what a lot of people appreciate.
That's also why when I have bookings that are longer than 2 hours, I ask the client to bring a bottle of wine and a snack to share, and 4 hours is a dinner date or an activity combined with GFE. longer than that usually various activities are involved. I had a booking I really enjoyed last friday that lasted 5 hours, we spent 1 hour getting drinks at the hotel bar, 2 hours GFE and then we ate at a nice restaurant, we hit it off really well and had loads of fun.
If you book 2 hours and you want to have a ''number of shots'' or to go at it the whole time, I recommend telling the provider. I've had clients book me for 2+ hours who wanted service the whole time, and yes it is exhausting and can get unpleasant physically.. I also often feel like the client is not having as much fun as he would if he tried to connect and take it easy and be sensual. But some providers will take it as a challenge to give as much pleasure to the client as possible. I have done that before and I was glad I could satisfy the person's needs! But it's true that I have limits physically to what I can handle
Yes I know it's a thing hence the mention lol
As for everything it might not be your thing but you cannot ignore there is a market for that!
I think most providers will accept going multiple rounds if you tell them. Sometimes clients don't want that. But we do need breaks, and conversations actually make the intimate time better imo
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