Am I changing or is the industry changing?

[Lunaseraphim]

Luna do you always go into victim mode? You seem like a cool person but my god. stop reading everything as an insult or an attack . It isnt

I'm not a victim. I'm just saying it's not ok to be talked to like this. "My clients are worried y'all have dicks".. come on. This also isn't about me specifically. Literally everyone on this thread victimized themselves and complained lol I've said many times I'm totally grateful for what I have and my clients

 

[CLOUD 500]

But I'm not talking about that and neither was Valentina when she said that escorts who go on social dates sometimes are not actual working girls. We aren't having the same conversation. I'm only addressing that specific part of this entire thread.

I know and you are right. Thought I add this in since misandry was mentioned.

 

[CLOUD 500]

I know but others on this thread did

Yep I saw that.

 

[UncleBob]

Nobody says we're going on a sex strike. I still love giving uncovered BJ's and getting fucked doggy style, thank you. Some people here can tell you I offer a great service.

I get the message. I thought posting here was good for my business because a lot of clients told me they loved reading my opinions. But if that's not the majority I will abstain and this is the last time I'm going to comment on a thread.

Remember, it is my very own feeling and I'm guessing I'm probably the only one having this blocking ;-)
And by the way, I do love reading your opinions!

It's like Massage Parlors... Went there once to meet an ATF that I knew for years and I told her I had a serious blocking for MP's...
So she invited me to face my fear and met her at an MP, she would great me, no receptionist... I took a full 100 mg viagra and I never been able to get hard lol... Weird...

UB

 

[Valentina Amante]

No it does not, it is more the stuff she says and how she says it. Lately these past few years the amount of misandrists is increasing. I see it on twitter a lot and even on Instagram. We talk a lot about misogyny but everyone is quiet about misandry. Misandry seems to becoming normalized. These so called women are a subgroup that is getting bigger by the year. They hate men and want them to bow down to them. They are entitled, grow armpit hair, talk down about men, hate the patriarchy. They got zero respect for men and we are just walking wallets to them. This one girl on social media who I meet at the stripclubs and also posts escorts ads, when a client asks her for if BBBJ is available, she insults them in the worst possible way and puts them down and then she publicly posts their the convo on social media. Why does someone have to be so mean about it? Just say no you do not and that is it. No need to insult him and expose him publicly. When it comes to how the industry changed, this is definitely one of them. More and more misandrists and entitlement. Now I am not saying you or Luna are like this because none of you are but I want to make you aware is this is happening more and more and you will see the tweets and posts from there girls. I stay clear of them.

Absolutely! Totally disgusting and I wonder why they’re even in this industry. They have personal vendettas they’re harbouring against men since ages ago. They bully men into sending them gifts or guilt trip them because it’s their birthday month lmao.
Then no one spoils them with their air fryer within 5 minutes and they post a status “men ain’t shit”
“Men are worthless - they cheat on their wives to come see me. Fuck men” …
… like okay big Bertha i think it’s time for your meds and some therapy.
Then they cry when the don’t get any bookings. These woke are ruining this industry.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

Absolutely! Totally disgusting and I wonder why they’re even in this industry. They have personal vendettas they’re harbouring against men since ages ago. They bully men into sending them gifts or guilt trip them because it’s their birthday month lmao.
Then no one spoils them within 5 minutes and they post a status “men ain’t shit”
“Men are worthless - they cheat on their wives to come see me. Fuck men” …
… like okay big Bertha i think it’s time for your meds and some therapy.
Then they cry when the don’t get any bookings. These woke are ruining this industry.

Valentina, I don't think things like "men ain't shit".. this is really not what I'm about personally and no other providers on this thread are... Some of my best friends are men. I actually love my clients. I don't know what you're talking about!!

 

[Valentina Amante]

Valentina, I don't think things like "men ain't shit".. this is really not what I'm about personally and no other providers on this thread are... Some of my best friends are men. I actually love my clients. I don't know what you're talking about!!

I’m not talking about you Luna. As I stated - lots of these new movements have entered SW spaces and a lot of SPs are just dramatic overall with their illusions of grandeur when it comes to self entitlement and men… which deters men from hobbying.

 

[Cap'tain Fantastic]

Are escorts "escort enough", wtf...

What is that weird debate about.

Its about "would you rather be perceived as a slutty SW or a glammy one!" Do you think the escort business has switched to the glammy side? Or du you wish it has?

 

[Lunaseraphim]

I’m not talking about you Luna. As I stated - lots of these new movements have entered SW spaces and a lot of SPs are just dramatic overall with their illusions of grandeur when it comes to self entitlement and men.

Ok good. That's not what I'm trying to do.

Its about "would you rather be perceived as a slutty SW or a glammy one!" Do you think the escort business has switched to the glammy side? Or du you wish it has?

I don't personally care. Obviously I would rather get perceived as glammy but also cute and approachable. I'm not aspiring to raise my rates anytime soon. All I know is these different images attract different clients and it's all branding and it's all fine.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

You got 2 choices : the red scare blue haired Barbie and the libertarian conspiracy theory Barbie hehe
(I'm just kidding btw)

 

[Rebaynia]

People tend to forget that this is an escort review/ ad site. Not a site where SPs can try to convince clients that they can do less for more money because “times have changed or they might’ve changed?”

Again, stop trying to fix what ain’t broken and stop telling men they’re gonna have to get used to paying escorts for longer dates, dinner and a movie and FMTY. If you can get that experience from a gent that’s MARVELOUS and very good for you - it’s just not the actual reality 95% of the time - you will be booked for sexual intercourse. You will not be a fake girlfriend for most of the days - since they will do all that cutesy stuff back home with their wives.

Be for fucking real and stop living in LalaLand.

You do realise that they may not mention it in their advertising, and a FMTY is a very good reason not to advertise the way you are saying, doesn't mean they don't do it at all. But if they stated it, they may loose the ability for that travel option. They have to advertise that way to protect their business and their clients.

You are putting too much attention into something that doesn't concern you. That isn't your clientel. Either you're jealous that they can get away with such high demands, or are envious. Not sure why you are saying advertising here. I've seen it on tryst, or twitter and such, not on merb, maybe they were reviewed? It wouldn't benifit them to advertise here it isn't their demographic, but we can encourage expieriences we want to have. Some people we see are here, and might appreciate the ideas.

But just because that isn't your reality, doesn't mean there isn't some debutant, who does this for fun rather than necessity, and doesn't want to cater to the same clients we see. Their business to do things their way. They don't have to spell it out in their advertising that coitus is included.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

You do realise that they may not mention it in their advertising, and a FMTY is a very good reason not to advertise the way you are saying, doesn't mean they don't do it at all. But if they stated it, they may loose the ability for that travel option. They have to advertise that way to protect their business and their clients.

You are putting too much attention into something that doesn't concern you. That isn't your clientel. Either you're jealous that they can get away with such high demands, or are envious. Not sure why you are saying advertising here. I've seen it on tryst, or twitter and such, not on merb, maybe they were reviewed? It wouldn't benifit them to advertise here it isn't their demographic, but we can encourage expieriences we want to have. Some people we see are here, and might appreciate the ideas.

But just because that isn't your reality, doesn't mean there isn't some debutant, who does this for fun rather than necessity, and doesn't want to cater to the same clients we see. Their business to do things their way. They don't have to spell it out in their advertising that coitus is included.

Honestly we're all getting clients and there's nothing to complain about unless someone is being an asshole.. I have nothing to complain about otherwise. I have a lot of great clients, I love my colleagues. I'm not trying to force people to give me gifts or take me out on dinner dates.. if you ask for something you might actually get it. Not always but once in a while. That doesn't mean I don't like everyone else...

 

[Porshasnow]

I’m not talking about high-end escorts - I mean anyone in this industry that advertises for that type of experience. This industry is already flooded with girls who think they can do this job but really can’t. The ones who lie about the services they offer, only to end up talking the whole time or wasting it on some social vibe. This isn’t a hangout.

One thing for sure that hasn’t changed: people want sex, and they’re going to look for it. However, these days, from a client’s perspective, it feels a lot more complex. Take LL for example which is the sameish concept as BP - now that’s real fast food - but it’s what people look for. Unfortunately it’s riddled with scammers so they resort to other websites or social media.

Say you’re a potential client who just wants strictly intimacy: If you’re picky and have a specific type, your chances are even slimmer to find the girl you’d like to book. You have to go through each girl’s restrictions, bios, booking processes, all of that. Add in this “new era” of escorting and you’re kind of underwhelmed with the whole process it takes - lots of girls want a minimum of 2H for the first time clients. Like how and why has this gotten so complicated? It shouldn’t be. The clients aren’t new here. It’s the girls. So it’s the girls changing this industry. Not the average Joe who is here because he’s thinking with his dick (like most guys do. Men are simple creatures of habit - they’re not gonna waste their time with this complicated stuff now)

I am also not saying that men don’t look for the dinner dates or social time either.
I’ve done the social stuff as well and it is actually very draining as you say. I’d rather be booked for 1H+ and chill naked instead of having underboob sweat in a musky speakeasy after defying Montreal traffic.

In a client’s POV, the whole point of Backpage was simplicity. I’m not on MERB, LL, or Tryst to find someone to take to the movies or play putt-putt. I’m there to pay for sex. Period. There’s other sites that are more of an “arrangement” type of meet that could be more suitable for the ladies that don’t wanna offer strictly intimacy.

It’s kinda crazy to complain every single day on your twitter about clients and how they reach out to you but come on here and act as if the main issue in the industry right now is how we decide to run our business lmao.

 

[Valentina Amante]

You got 2 choices : the red scare blue haired Barbie and the libertarian conspiracy theory Barbie hehe
(I'm just kidding btw)

You do realise that they may not mention it in their advertising, and a FMTY is a very good reason not to advertise the way you are saying, doesn't mean they don't do it at all. But if they stated it, they may loose the ability for that travel option. They have to advertise that way to protect their business and their clients.

You are putting too much attention into something that doesn't concern you. That isn't your clientel. Either you're jealous that they can get away with such high demands, or are envious. Not sure why you are saying advertising here. I've seen it on tryst, or twitter and such, not on merb, maybe they were reviewed? It wouldn't benifit them to advertise here it isn't their demographic, but we can encourage expieriences we want to have. Some people we see are here, and might appreciate the ideas.

But just because that isn't your reality, doesn't mean there isn't some debutant, who does this for fun rather than necessity, and doesn't want to cater to the same clients we see. Their business to do things their way. They don't have to spell it out in their advertising that coitus is included.

I stated that the arm candy girls need a different section if that’s what they’re mostly wanting to get booked for and to not impose onto men that this may be the new norm.

It makes it harder for guys to sift through to get to the intimacy offers because now it’s become complicated to find girls who want to provide the “down and dirty”

idgaf about what girls do. Just don’t clog ads with your “2H minimum champagne on planes” bullshit in the “working girls” space that offer HH or 1H SUCKY FUCKY guaranteed.

 

[Valentina Amante]

It’s kinda crazy to complain every single day on your twitter about clients and how they reach out to you but come on here and act as if the main issue in the industry right now is how we decide to run our business lmao.

It’s kinda crazy how there’s a mute button on Twitter that you can use if you don’t like seeing my posts lmao. I don’t even know who you are but ok. I complain about dumb inquires. Don’t pretend like you don’t have them. Read the actual thread before chiming in. You’d know that im not telling people how to run their businesses. If you actually paid attention.

 

[Enjoying life]

I think there are girls who have a minimum of 2h and super high rates because they have another job and they are very low volume.. I couldn't do that because I would lose so much of my clientele and this is my main source of income. I don't blame these girls for anything personally. Guys can book whoever they want. It's cool if you like prefer certain types of bookings, and if others like some over others.

Obviously guys are looking to pay for sex, but a lot of them want companionship and connection on top of it. I have gotten purely social bookings before with guys who found me on these platforms.. I don't think I'm hurting or scamming anyone. We all have a different type of clientele and it's fine.

 

[Porshasnow]

It’s kinda crazy how there’s a mute button on Twitter that you can use if you don’t like seeing my posts lmao. I don’t even know who you are but ok. I complain about dumb inquires. Don’t pretend like you don’t have them. Read the actual thread before chiming - you're a bit late to the party

Oh you’re already unfollowed haha I can’t with chronic complainers. I don’t really get how you can come here, say that booking has become so complicated for clients when you crash out everyday on your social medias about how no one can contact you properly.

 

[Enjoying life]

Always mix it up and show a bit of your interests like if you have many topics or even play your instrument if you play as believe me it Goes a long way!

 

[Valentina Amante]

Oh you’re already unfollowed haha I can’t with chronic complainers. I don’t really get how you can come here, say that booking has become so complicated for clients when you crash out everyday on your social medias about how no one can contact you properly.

Good for you what’s your handle so I can unfollow you if I already do?

 

[Valentina Amante]

Oh you’re already unfollowed haha I can’t with chronic complainers. I don’t really get how you can come here, say that booking has become so complicated for clients when you crash out everyday on your social medias about how no one can contact you properly.

I don’t get how you can come here and talk like you know what you’re talking about it’s quite funny actually. This is not relevant to inquiries lmao.