Insatisfaction ??
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Pas idéal du tout comme comportement. Les agences risquent de te bloquer si tu fais cela et en gros en faisant ça tu empêche qqun d'autre de booker la plage horaire donc tu leur fait perdre des revenus potentiels (C'est vrai pour les indys et les agences).
Fais tes recherches avant de booker.
Après, dans certaines situations (bait & switch, énormes différences avec la description, etc) c'est peut etre justifié. En 2 ans, cela ne m'est jamais arrivé de sentir que je devrais faire ça. J'ai été vraiment "déçu" une seule fois, but I still went through with it.
Fais tes recherches avant de booker.
Après, dans certaines situations (bait & switch, énormes différences avec la description, etc) c'est peut etre justifié. En 2 ans, cela ne m'est jamais arrivé de sentir que je devrais faire ça. J'ai été vraiment "déçu" une seule fois, but I still went through with it.
Cela arrive et le bon comportement à avoir c’est de laisser un certain montant comme 50%. Et puis éviter pour les prochaines fois si tu rebook avec la même agence
Moi ça m’est arrivé une fois. La fille avait comme 36 ans au lieu de 24 ans affiché sur le site et elle semblait même avoir 40 alors je n’étais pas du tout dans le mood même si elle semblait être sympa, juste pas de ma préférence.
Moi ça m’est arrivé une fois. La fille avait comme 36 ans au lieu de 24 ans affiché sur le site et elle semblait même avoir 40 alors je n’étais pas du tout dans le mood même si elle semblait être sympa, juste pas de ma préférence.
Cela m'est déjà arrivé MAIS très très rarement.....alors je faisais avec...mais la visite était plus courte....lolll....je ne pénalisais ni la fille ni l'agence.......si c'était une indy....évidemment je ne la recontactais pas......si une agence....comme je faisais affaire toujours avec les mêmes....je les contactais pour leur signifier et elles prenaient bonne note...lol......d'ou l'importance de faire affaire avec des agences reconnues......
It happened to me with an indy that I won't name as she herself didn't go anything wrong, on the Tryst pictures Tryst she seemed absolutely stunning although she didn't show her face. Body looked amazing and from what I could see I couldn't imagine anything else than a conventionally cute and attractive face. Reviews on her here are glowing, booked her for 2 hours and when she greeted me and saw here in real life I couldn't feel anything but some bitterness, or disappointment if you consider bitterness is a loaded word. That killed my mood but I went with it anyways. She wasn't ugly, she was in fact just average looking but it wasn't what I was looking nor paying for.. Her body too was far from amazing, just in the upper tier of average I'd say.
Maybe I had too high of an expectation (the price didn't suggest that), maybe it was because I'm a newbie but anyways lesson learned, I won't book a provider if I can't reliably see her face. Reliably as in, does this seem genuine or heavily edited.
Maybe I had too high of an expectation (the price didn't suggest that), maybe it was because I'm a newbie but anyways lesson learned, I won't book a provider if I can't reliably see her face. Reliably as in, does this seem genuine or heavily edited.
Technically you CAN refuse to see an SP but as others said it is "polite" to give some money for the lost time/revenue. I guess the equivalent of a deposit at least these days (100$ for a 400-500$ indy). Now its not ideal to do. I wouldn't recommand it as you can risk getting blacklisted by agencies or indies (the words spread fast... they share bad clients, a lot of them are friends or at the very least aquintances). But if you really think its not gonna work, like 100% you want nothing to do with her, better do it than have an awkward session. I would suggest doing the best researches possible BEFORE booking. No idea on your frequencies, but as a ocasional "john" i can be "selective" in my bookings unless its a plan B last minute.
Now if its a bait and switch clearly then its all on her, not on you. Just turn around and leave, thats it. Its the equivalent of a scam. You are in your right to not proceed. She deceived you. They usually do it knowing well 80% of the guys will go trough anyway because either they don't want to leave with blueballs, or they are "too nice" to "hurt her feeling". But its your right and if its clearly a B&S.
In my years i would say there is maybe 2-3 times i think it would had been better to cancel the session, but it was not even because of look. It was the vibe. The girl was just not into me (or into her job as a whole) and i could feel it. Its like she really didn't wanted to be there. I eventually got trough all sessions because i hoped they were just shy. I would say in retrospec there is one i still regret having not cancelled because i don't keep a good memory at all of it, but the other, even tough she looked bored and was not into it, she was so beautiful not gonna lie i still fap to her pics to this day thinking "yeah ...i slept with her" ... lol. Sorry i know its not super class to say it but lets be real, im sure lots of clients do that
And actually the times i was "a bit" disapointed at first look, they ended up being awesome providers going the extra miles and that "disapointement" at the door oppening completely disapeared once i was making out with her and even more when she was blowing me giving me sexy looks I came out with a big smile at the end.
Now if its a bait and switch clearly then its all on her, not on you. Just turn around and leave, thats it. Its the equivalent of a scam. You are in your right to not proceed. She deceived you. They usually do it knowing well 80% of the guys will go trough anyway because either they don't want to leave with blueballs, or they are "too nice" to "hurt her feeling". But its your right and if its clearly a B&S.
In my years i would say there is maybe 2-3 times i think it would had been better to cancel the session, but it was not even because of look. It was the vibe. The girl was just not into me (or into her job as a whole) and i could feel it. Its like she really didn't wanted to be there. I eventually got trough all sessions because i hoped they were just shy. I would say in retrospec there is one i still regret having not cancelled because i don't keep a good memory at all of it, but the other, even tough she looked bored and was not into it, she was so beautiful not gonna lie i still fap to her pics to this day thinking "yeah ...i slept with her" ... lol. Sorry i know its not super class to say it but lets be real, im sure lots of clients do that
And actually the times i was "a bit" disapointed at first look, they ended up being awesome providers going the extra miles and that "disapointement" at the door oppening completely disapeared once i was making out with her and even more when she was blowing me giving me sexy looks
I came out with a big smile at the end.
Why bother staying if you don’t feel attracted to the person?
Just look at your phone and say: I have an emergency, I’m sorry I’ll have to go.
Leave money at your discretion. If you want to be in people’s good graces, I’d suggest you do. I’ll elaborate, imagine booking a girl, not liking her, leaving without leaving a tip, trying to book another girl and that girl happens to be the first one’s bestfriend…
Just look at your phone and say: I have an emergency, I’m sorry I’ll have to go.
Leave money at your discretion. If you want to be in people’s good graces, I’d suggest you do. I’ll elaborate, imagine booking a girl, not liking her, leaving without leaving a tip, trying to book another girl and that girl happens to be the first one’s bestfriend…
The last thing I want is an embarrassing situation with an SP at her door or her condo's lobby... so I just suck it up and consider I paid for a lesson on how to book and the 2 hours of playtime was just a small bonus..
If you found the provider on Leolist or EscorteIntime and suspect she used fake / overly flattering pictures, mention your disappointment and politely leave. There are cases of bait & switch, dishonesty, or straight up thieves. C’est pas toujours rose. You can compensate monetarily if the woman you have infront of you expresses guilt or shame, tsé elle prend de son temps elle aussi pour se préparer et t’accueillir. I’ve never had someone walk out on me during a rendezvous but I’d be quite hurt, so I’m talking out of empathy for those genuine SPs who do not wish to disappoint.
That being said, if you conduct proper research before booking you shouldn’t be confronted with too many surprises.
It’s different when it comes to agencies but I will let those with more intel to speak on the matter.
That being said, if you conduct proper research before booking you shouldn’t be confronted with too many surprises.
It’s different when it comes to agencies but I will let those with more intel to speak on the matter.
You wait to be let in, sit on the couch, talk and then pretext an emergency
I may be the only one proning that but honesty ... before anything. If she really do not want me as client... tell me. Its way better than excuses. It will dissipate any doubt. I can assume the same would prevail if things are reverse no? Least we want (both side) is trying to rebook because whatever happened. Yes if its a client i supose the SP will not chase him, but i dunno... as an honest guy it feel wrong to me. I would feel so shameful "pretexting an emergancy" ... No really i can't do that.
Usually indies' policy is giving the envelope as soon as you step in sooo... might as well get something for what I paid (along with the lesson learned)
This is really ... hum... how can i say it? Its true i didn't saw a lot of indies but usually when i do, i give envelope as i get out of shower (before anything happen intimacy wise). So far no indy was like "money money" as i entered. Then again maybe they feel at ease knowing who i am (i mention my handle when booking, so they know im legit). Just my experience tough...
You’d rather proceed with the booking and then come back here to complain that you didn’t find the SP attractive and that the session was bad instead of just leaving?
You either man up and say: it’s not what I was expecting sorry — open the envelope, give a little something and go back home
Or lie if you’re uncomfortable: While I was coming up someone called me, I’m sorry I have to go back home there’s an emergency — open the envelope, give a little something and go back home
Or you proceed with the booking, get a so so experience because you don’t find the sp attractive and then come back here to put the blame on her
No reputable SP is gonna chase you down the hall if you say you gotta go. We have too much to lose and the last thing we want is to draw unnecessary attention on us
You either man up and say: it’s not what I was expecting sorry — open the envelope, give a little something and go back home
Or lie if you’re uncomfortable: While I was coming up someone called me, I’m sorry I have to go back home there’s an emergency — open the envelope, give a little something and go back home
Or you proceed with the booking, get a so so experience because you don’t find the sp attractive and then come back here to put the blame on her
No reputable SP is gonna chase you down the hall if you say you gotta go. We have too much to lose and the last thing we want is to draw unnecessary attention on us
It's far from being like "money money" as soon as the client enters, it's just part of the rules to pay before you play and there's nothing wrong with it. You can yourself read their websites, most of them include instructions to give them the envelope as the first thing to do and not making them ask for it. I'm specifically talking about Tryst indies. And I get it it's the right way to do it, you don't want someone coming in your incall, taking a shower and making himself comfortable and then realize they want to negotiate or something. Also I guess it provides a small window to count the money discretely while the client is in the shower so that you don't do it in their face, just seems more "professional".
You've made your point and I've made mine, and everyone doesn't have the same emotional intelligence/tact so both of ours seem fair, so I won't address the first part of your post but just the last one: We have too much to lose and the last thing we want is to draw unnecessary attention on us
That also applies to us, the clients, and on my side I don't know anything about how the SP will react, reputable or not. Even if the was a reputable SP, imagine she was having a bad day that day - anything can happen. In situations like this, personally I like to minimize risk and between a possible embarrassing (or worse) situation and losing money I've already considered as spent I'll take the second one.
Yes and no.
Yes Indies and even Agency ladies want to be paid upfront but you can always take the time to look at them and talk a bit with them and take your final decision.
With agencies, If you refuse too often it might affect but I think they know it cannot always be a good match for all client.
No matter the ladies (Merb Indies, Merb Agencies, LL, EI etc), all pics are somewhat "Bait".
Most lady's pics are photoshopped and/or taken with an angle hiding few pounds or hiding Strech marks, Saggy tits etc... And most have their faces hidden.
I never consider lady's pics as "WYSIWYG".
Face for me is part of the body and since it is hidden, you never know. It is most of the time a surprise and can affect the mood for sure.
So for me, a booking with a new never seen before SP is not a contract. And until you accept what you see when you're in front of the lady and pay, you're allowed to leave without any compensation.
I will leave once in a while but rarely because of the "Body/face"... Mostly because of the first impression, the attitude and small talk at the beginning.
Since there is often a "middle man", the booker (Agencies and some Indies...), I often try to confirm the service offered, before I pay, with the lady herself to see if it fits with the sms exchange...
If a girl opens the door without looking at me and doesn't say hello and does not smile, then, unless she's stunning, I'll probably leave.
If I decide to stay, then I 'll ask to confirm the GFE service even if it was clear by sms since she might have a booker.
If she confirms she does No GFE, I will leave explaining that this is not what was agreed by sms. If she's stunning and bubbly, I might be more flexible and sacrifice some of the GFE services...
I might leave a small compensation and I feel to.
Like it happened few years ago when the girl opened the door and I saw she was lightly handicapped... I just said it would not work, left some $$ and left...
It might be awkward to leave sometime. It took me few years to finally stop wasting money on B&S and still today, despite some obvious red flags, I still get disapointments...
I never left, even if the girl didn’t look like what I expected or if I got a bad vibe.
These days, I tend to repeat (mostly with Indies), so I don’t face this issue. In the past, I was often booking with agencies and sometimes booking an SP for the first time. It happened rarely (2-3 times) that I didn’t get a good vibe, and in fact the session didn’t go well. If I remember correctly, they were new to the industry and they retired after a few months (I guess it wasn’t for them).
IMO, for the amount that I spend in a year, it’s not a couple of hundred that will make a huge difference.
And I might risk getting a bad rap with an agency, although I was a regular client. And then I would feel awkward just leaving.
I would just chalk it up to a bad session and not repeat.
But that’s me. To each their own. I could understand other clients leaving, if the SP didn’t look like the pics (but leaving some compensation).
These days, I tend to repeat (mostly with Indies), so I don’t face this issue. In the past, I was often booking with agencies and sometimes booking an SP for the first time. It happened rarely (2-3 times) that I didn’t get a good vibe, and in fact the session didn’t go well. If I remember correctly, they were new to the industry and they retired after a few months (I guess it wasn’t for them).
IMO, for the amount that I spend in a year, it’s not a couple of hundred that will make a huge difference.
And I might risk getting a bad rap with an agency, although I was a regular client. And then I would feel awkward just leaving.
I would just chalk it up to a bad session and not repeat.
But that’s me. To each their own. I could understand other clients leaving, if the SP didn’t look like the pics (but leaving some compensation).
It's never happened that a client left when he saw me in person. But if this is a situation I encountered, I would be really upset. In my opinion if you get to the incall and you don't want to follow through with the booking, you should pay the provider for her time and leave instead of forcing yourself to go through with it and getting resentful about it. But the provider needs to be compensated...
To me asking for money upfront isn't to make the client feel bad. It's to get it out of the way and to avoid that one of us forgets. If I'm worried about forgetting during the whole booking it won't be pleasant.
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