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This should not matter but sadly, coaches who speak French are given a pass when things go bad on them. St. Louis lives in Connecticut just like I do, but I don't think I would get the same pass he does.
Yes & no. Habs fans & french sports media have also been tough on some french-speaking coaches in the past. Mario Tremblay, Jacques Martin, Claude Julien & even Michel Therrien didn’t have it easy. Pat Burns was well-liked. Guy Carbonneau & Jacques Lemaire had their moments. Martin St-Louis seems to be getting a pass because he literally came out of nowhere, he speaks extremely well & the fact they were expected to lose for a few years surely helped. The gact he was a french-speaking NHL superstar from Quebec of course is a huge reason why the other guys i mentioned didn’t get the same red carpet treatmemt. But now people are starting to wonder if the organization isn’t taking advantage of their patience. Fans are finally realizing that a rebuild doesn’t automatically mean that you’ll be a contending team in a few years. As i mentioned the Sabres are a dozen years into their rebuild & are still a bad team. The Sens look promising but past results haven’t turned out as successful as fans expected. Maybe this is finally the year they’ll return to the playoffs but if they do it will likely be in the final playoffs spot ajead of either the Islanders or the Bruins, who have equally been surprisingly awful. Will Pittsburgh make the playoffs with its aging lineup of past superstars? Goaltending seems to be a big problem there. The Oilers finally made a good playoffs run last season after a dozen or more years of sucking but lucky for them the likely best hockey player to ever play hockey was on their team. And his linemate Leon Draisaitl is a likely top 5 player in the league.

Indeed rebuilds can work. Chicago & Pittsburgh have shown you can win a Cup by rebuilding. Toronto & the Rangers have shown you can contend for a Cup for a few years after rebuilding. But often there are no guarantees. A team must draft properly & a lot of luck is also needed such as being able to draft high (top 3) and draft a generational player (Mario Lemieux,, Sidney Crosby, Connor Mcdavid, Alex Ovechkin, Auston Matthews, etc). Adding franchise players like Patrick Kane, Evgeni Malkin, Leon Draisatl, Steven Stamkos & Nikita Kucherov also is a key to success. Finding a great franchise goaltender is often a key: M-A Fleury, Vasilevski, Shesterkin, Martin Brodeur, Patrick Roy, etc.

Anyways i’m off to watch my favorite AHL team (Laval Rocket) who are facing Providence (Bruins AHL team) tonight at the beautiful Place Bell which is in my opinion the top arena in the AHL. The Rocket is playing great under a real NHL-calibre coach like Pascal Vincent, the top coach in the entire Habs organization. The Rocket is an extremely well-coached team & have a strong goaltending tandem. Go Rocket!
 

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The only reason Sr-Louis may end up keeping his job until the end of the season is because he’s a french-speaking Quebecer. That’s why most of the fans & the french media still support him.
Well, that’s not very accurate, do you really believe Ruel, Tremblay, Lemaire, Therrien, Julien and Ducharme got a special treatment? When their time came to an end, were all getting crucified by the medias during their last year.
 

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Well, that’s not very accurate, do you really believe Ruel, Tremblay, Lemaire, Therrien, Julien and Ducharme got a special treatment? When their time came to an end, were all getting crucified by the medias during their last year.
Therrien and Julien were both hired and fired twice by Montreal. What other teams do this? If their crucifixions were so bad, why did they come back for more? No other professional sports team I can think of hires back coaches who were unceremoniously fired. The Yankees did with Billy Martin, but he was fired the first time for personally insulting the owner, and not losing. I believe Therrien and Julien were hired back because they were French guys who were viewed as being able to handle the things that need to be handled- French media, fans etc. That they were losers who were unceremoniously fired in their prior stints was a lesser concern. When it turned out that they couldn't overachieve with the teams they were handed, they were shown the door, again. Julien replaced Therrien not once but twice, only to follow Therrien out the door. each time, repeating the disgrace of his prior tenure as Therrien had. Again, what North American professional team has done this even once let alone twice in the last 20 years. Answer; nobody.

Maybe they should try hiring a talented Anglophone young coach. It might help. You don't need to speak French to know how to coach hockey or lead young men.
 
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It's done my buddy and I got tickets to see Rangers - Habs November 30 in Madison Square Garden!!!! Tickets were $378.88 (USD) each. Looking forward to seeing this game!!!!!
 

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Well, that’s not very accurate, do you really believe Ruel, Tremblay, Lemaire, Therrien, Julien and Ducharme got a special treatment? When their time came to an end, were all getting crucified by the medias during their last year.
I agree with you but i did state there were exceptions like some of the people you mentioned. Maybe i didn’t explain myself better. As for Martin St-Louis as of now he’s been getting a free pass from the fans & most of the media strictly because he’s a former french-speaking NHL All-Star from Quebec who has seduced the fans & the media with his words. Of course the fact the fans & media were made aware that he was coming as part of a rebuild that would last a few years made things easier for him as opposed to him coming in when the habs were expected to contend every season. But now nearly three years later the fact only a few players have improved is worrisome & the team is as bad as ever.
 

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Habs vs Penguins tonight. I expect more of the same but who knows the habs could surprise us by putting in an effort & maybe will improve their defensive game or Montembault saves the day like he did in game 1. Pittsburgh will be ready of course since they absolutely must best bad teams like Montreal in order to have a chance at the playoffs. It won’t be an easy one for this aging veteran team with questionable goaltending.
 

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As for Martin St-Louis as of now he’s been getting a free pass from the fans & most of the media strictly because he’s a former french-speaking NHL All-Star from Quebec who has seduced the fans & the media with his words.
Trust me, his freepass is already expired
 

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Trust me, his freepass is already expired
If they keep on losing yes. But a couple of wins next week may get people back on his side. But he needs to start changing his coaching strategy, which obviously isn’t working. He’s a stubborn person & he needs to recognize this & start to listen to others.
 

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Habs vs Penguins tonight. I expect more of the same but who knows the habs could surprise us by putting in an effort & maybe will improve their defensive game or Montembault saves the day like he did in game 1. Pittsburgh will be ready of course since they absolutely must best bad teams like Montreal in order to have a chance at the playoffs. It won’t be an easy one for this aging veteran team with questionable goaltending.
They did it...lol....avec CROSBY qui a mené le bal.....Les HABS ont montré un peu de vie en 3ème...MAIS trop peu trop tard et autre défaite....SAM a été ok et a gardé son équipe dans le match.....mais sans résultat again.....3ème défaite consécutive et 7 défaites dans leurs 9 dernières games....pas fort....lol.
 

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Et on enchaine les défaites......

Puis Cole n'a pas scoré......

Techniquement il ne s'agirait que de 2 défaites des Leafs accompagnées de 2 victoires de Mtl pour se retrouver au 3e rang de notre division (sans tenir compte des autres équipes)......Si j'essaie d'être positif lol.....

Let the sun shine, let the sun shine in.
 
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Et on enchaine les défaites......

Puis Cole n'a pas scoré......

Techniquement il ne s'agirait que de 2 défaites des Leafs accompagnées de 2 victoires de Mtl pour se retrouver au 3e rang de notre division (sans tenir compte des autres équipes)......Si j'essaie d'être positif lol.....

Let the sun shine, let the sun shine in.
Je crois que plus que la saison va aller de moins en moins on ba voir ‘Cole’ scorer. Raison: il est pas mal le seul qui compte et les equipes vont mettre plus d’imphase a le surveiller de plus pres. On commence a connaitre ses habitudes de plus en plus: s’installer a la droite du gardier dans le cercle et c’est presque toujours de la qu’il degage son tir.

Anyways souvent ils ont l’air perdus sur la patinoire. Ils jouent probablement un systeme trop complique pour ce genre de talent. Ils faudrait aussi jouer plus defensif. Les equipes moins talentueuses jouent d’habitude un style tres defensif.
 

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15 tirs au but en 1ière
5 en 2ième
3 en 3ième

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Bonne premiere periode et Wolfe a ete excellent mais seulement 8 lancers pour les deux prochaines periodes (je compte pas la periode de surtemps) est totalement innacceptable! En plus donner le but gagnant apres seulememt 7 secondes en surtemps? Une vraie joke!

En passant le CH a renvoyer l’attaquant recrue Oliver Kapanen a son equipe en Europe. Bon sacrememt de voyage!
 

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Bonne premiere periode et Wolfe a ete excellent mais seulement 8 lancers pour les deux prochaines periodes (je compte pas la periode de surtemps) est totalement innacceptable! En plus donner le but gagnant apres seulememt 7 secondes en surtemps? Une vraie joke!

En passant le CH a renvoyer l’attaquant recrue Oliver Kapanen a son equipe en Europe. Bon sacrememt de voyage!
En prolongation MSL y va avec Dvorak, je comprends que c’est pour le face-off mais je pense que Evans est aussi qualifié que Dvorak. Bon, Dvorak a gagné sa mise en jeu mais Suzuki perd son bâton, wtf!!!
 
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En prolongation MSL y va avec Dvorak, je comprends que c’est pour le face-off mais je pense que Evans est aussi qualifié que Dvorak. Bon, Dvorak a gagné sa mise en jeu mais Suzuki perd son bâton, wtf!!!
Dvorak avait gagne comme 80% de ses mises au jeu alors je comprends le move de MSL. En plus il a remporter sa mise au jeu avant le but en prolongation. Suzuki avait eut aussi une bonne soiree dans ce domaine. Oui ils auraient aussi pu mettre Evans mais comme j’ai dit Dvorak a fait sa job en remportant la mise au jeu et si les choses se seraient passees comme suposees il aurait tout de suite ete remplace par Caulfield. Ils ont perdus par malchance.
 

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La tendance se continue....SAM---malgré 1/2 mauvais buts--a fait des arrêts spectaculaires pour les garder dans la game....MAIS again ont été débordé défensivement et notre 1er trio invisible....alors que le leur pétait le feu....lol.....une 6ème défaite de suite demain vs LEAFS...sûrement.
 

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1ier trio invisible, en effet. On sait que Caufield n’a pas beaucoup d’autres utilité que de la mettre dedans. Par contre Suzuki n’affiche pas toujours la même intensité d’un match à l’autre et ça diminue grandement l’impact de son trio. Peut être qu’il traîne une blessure?
 
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1ier trio invisible, en effet. On sait que Caufield n’a pas beaucoup d’autres utilité que de la mettre dedans. Par contre Suzuki n’affiche pas toujours la même intensité d’un match à l’autre et ça diminue grandement l’impact de son trio. Peut être qu’il traîne une blessure?
Ca doit etre difficile de maintenir ton intensite quand tu perd tout le temps et que ton equipe est aussi pire qu’elle etait dans le passe. Un autre probleme est que les joueurs commence a realiser que l’equipe jouerait probablement mieux sous un autre entraineur d’experience. Par exemple les joueurs qui arrivent de Laval doivent louanger Pascal Vincent lorsqu’ils se parlent entre eux et pour etre franc sa doit un peu deprimant. Et puis c’est evident que les joueurs realisent que Kent Hughes fait zero pour les aider en allant chercher du renfort. Une chose que j’ai experimenter comme joueur de hockey c’est que c’est vraiment deprimant jamais gagner. Je comprends que les joueurs sont payes mais dans le fond tu veut gagner des matchs pour aimer jouer le sport sans ca tu va aller jouer un autre sport, non? En plus le systeme de MSL suce en tabernac! Les joueurs sont perdus la plupart du temps pis…CA MARCHE PAS!

Et pour Caufield oui il a juste une utilite. Scorer. Compter des buts. Pis quand il marque pas il est un gros zero!
 
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