In NY we have our governor and mayor holding daily press conferences and our infection rate is still on the incline. The states around us, New Jersey and Connecticut are far worse and their constituents hear from them daily as well. We can blame Trump for screwing this up back in March, I wouldn’t, but I would understand why someone would. But, at this point other than adhering to the CDC guidelines what are Americans supposed to? It is what it is, we have to ride this out and get vaccinated when it’s approved.
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Ok and all this nice talk what are the results.
A shit load of people dying, the same crap going on in CHSLD that was during the first wave.
So as long as they say things with emotion shed a few appropriate tears for the dying all is good.
The results of the leadership however are just as piss poor as in the US, yet all of you are busy blaming the big Orange and turn a blind eye to your own.
You can see relatives during Christamas, No wait you can’t do that. You can teach 30 kids in school who were wearing no masks for many weeks, you can be with teachers in the staff room, but if you invite one of those teachers to your home after you are liable to. a $1000 fine.
Give me a fucking break this is leadership for you.
A shit load of people dying, the same crap going on in CHSLD that was during the first wave.
So as long as they say things with emotion shed a few appropriate tears for the dying all is good.
The results of the leadership however are just as piss poor as in the US, yet all of you are busy blaming the big Orange and turn a blind eye to your own.
You can see relatives during Christamas, No wait you can’t do that. You can teach 30 kids in school who were wearing no masks for many weeks, you can be with teachers in the staff room, but if you invite one of those teachers to your home after you are liable to. a $1000 fine.
Give me a fucking break this is leadership for you.
These emergency alerts in Quebec are something that I haven't seen here in the states yet:
Quebec issues emergency alert to remind Gatineau residents of public health guidelines in COVID-19 red zone
An emergency alert issued to Gatineau residents on Wednesday afternoon said, a "public health emergency in effect."
ottawa.ctvnews.ca
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What is tragic and you can play this game of words all you like is that in the end it depends on the people themselves.
A perfect example is Quebec and the US which have almost identical figures of death per million population which is what really counts.
You can say all the right things do all the right things if people ignore it, it won’t work.
You can cut and paste and blame Trump all you like but you cannot manipulate the figures and the number of deaths they don’t give a shit about your prejudice and hatred of Trump.
What none of you want to admit or give credit for is that the big Orange for all his faults and fuck ups and being a total ego maniac and asshole as a humane being did in the end pump billions into vaccine research, introduced warp speed and removed all the red tape and obstacles to have at least two viable vaccines available by year end.
This is the only thing that will end this nightmare that we have been living otherwise there would be no end to this some countries would have better results in the beginning but would eventually have the virus overrun them anyway.
What is tragic and you can play this game of words all you like is that in the end it depends on the people themselves.
A perfect example is Quebec and the US which have almost identical figures of death per million population which is what really counts.
You can say all the right things do all the right things if people ignore it, it won’t work.
You can cut and paste and blame Trump all you like but you cannot manipulate the figures and the number of deaths they don’t give a shit about your prejudice and hatred of Trump.
What none of you want to admit or give credit for is that the big Orange for all his faults and fuck ups and being a total ego maniac and asshole as a humane being did in the end pump billions into vaccine research, introduced warp speed and removed all the red tape and obstacles to have at least two viable vaccines available by year end.
This is the only thing that will end this nightmare that we have been living otherwise there would be no end to this some countries would have better results in the beginning but would eventually have the virus overrun them anyway.
^^^^^ Up 3...All about control. This cure all vaccine was not even tested on people over 80 who are the ones who need it the most. Sad that using hindsight the fucking morons still revert back the the beginning of all this.
...if people ignore it, it won't work......leaving HERE you know ALL people are wearing masks dans les places et transports publics...and try to keep distanciation even if it's not always easy to do so.....if they don't do so they will now receive des contraventions......ce sont des directives claires des AUTORITÉS qui sont largement observées.....and a majority----even if it's not pleasant---agree with.
Malheureusement la plupart des éclosions proviennent de lieux clos......travail--écoles -résidences pour aînés--endroits difficiles à gérer....MAIS la majorité observe aussi le confinement à la maison--accepte de s'isoler et ne voir ni famille ni ami.....obéissant toujours aux directives des autorités politiques et sanitaires....ALORS TOUT CELA POUR DIRE QU'IL EST COMPLÈTEMENT FAUX DE DIRE QUE....PEOPLE IGNORE IT...
Malheureusement la plupart des éclosions proviennent de lieux clos......travail--écoles -résidences pour aînés--endroits difficiles à gérer....MAIS la majorité observe aussi le confinement à la maison--accepte de s'isoler et ne voir ni famille ni ami.....obéissant toujours aux directives des autorités politiques et sanitaires....ALORS TOUT CELA POUR DIRE QU'IL EST COMPLÈTEMENT FAUX DE DIRE QUE....PEOPLE IGNORE IT...
What you are ignoring is reality.
Ok I agree with you most people are wearing masks.
Amount of people dying in Quebec per million of population is still identical to US.
What does that tell you, of course blame fucking Trump, now why didn’t I think of that, nothing could be simpler.
Well to be exact we cannot compare Québec and the US in all fairness. You could compare Québec to one or many US state(s) that would be better , but not to the whole country. If you want the whole country, you need to comapare Canada to the US.
Health issues and how people follow or don't follow public health (PH) recommendations (recs) is more closely related to state/ province than to the national country level- by legislation and emergency measures. Various states/ provinces have various PH recs and also people have various group atittudes to the virus... Obviously as the pandemic continues to spread, regional differences are abating. But clearly the neglect / failure to take proper measures in some parts of the world has been the source of the perpetuation of this thing.
Yes, it's good that Trump pumped money into vax research (no matter the fundamental reason why he did it...) but currently he is simply doing... nothing! Eyes wide shut.
And yes, indeed the vax is truly the only thing that will eventually end this whole mess... Unless too many people refuse to take it...
This tells you that Québec is pretty bad in its management of the pandemic!!
Now, as I said, let's compare Québec to some US States on an individual basis and let's see which one is worse off (and obviously if you pick Vermont, well... I would love to be in Vermont!!
) But if you pick North or South Dakota, well you are above 120 deaths per 100 000 people. Québec hovers around 90. New York State is 180, Nw Jersey is just shy of 200... So as you can see, one cannot simply compare Québec and the whole US....
If you want to break it down to hundreds of different things then you can not compare any country to another.
You can however compare simply things like death per million of population which is a good indication.
Now for sure I could pick out the worst state in the US and then Quebec would look better, I chose not to to make a point to people who do nothing else except cut and paste and have an obsession with Trump while they ignore and turn a blind eye to what is happening in their own back yard.
You can say what ever you like, Quebec alone accounts for more deaths than all the other provinces combined in Canada so if that doesn’t tell you something I don’t know what will.
I do agree that the only way out is with a vaccine and so far Trump apart from the scientists who developed these vaccines has done more to benefit us than any other politician.
You can however compare simply things like death per million of population which is a good indication.
Now for sure I could pick out the worst state in the US and then Quebec would look better, I chose not to to make a point to people who do nothing else except cut and paste and have an obsession with Trump while they ignore and turn a blind eye to what is happening in their own back yard.
You can say what ever you like, Quebec alone accounts for more deaths than all the other provinces combined in Canada so if that doesn’t tell you something I don’t know what will.
I do agree that the only way out is with a vaccine and so far Trump apart from the scientists who developed these vaccines has done more to benefit us than any other politician.
No surprise here, FDA approves emergency use of Pfizer vaccine:
www.cnbc.com
FDA panel recommends approval of Pfizer's Covid vaccine for emergency use
If the FDA adopts the recommendation it would mark a pivotal moment in the Covid-19 pandemic, which has killed roughly 290,000 in the U.S. in less than a year.
It would be nice if any of the brothers and sisters in “health care” who receive the vaccine could come tell us how it goes....
Leadership is all about telling the truth. Leadership is about explaining the situation based on facts and admitting we know so little about how this virus is spreading. But a lot of people, we can read them in this forum, do not care about the truth. We can cure ignorance buy education. We can bring a horse to the water but we can't force it to drink. Dishonesty is the worst. People who can't face the truth so they can try to save their asses by lying as the republicans in the US senate now.
Trump is still denying the COVID situation preferring to claim that he doesn't know what is QANON... It may be true as he is an ignorant and so are a bunch of people in USA and unfortunately in almost all countries. He pretends to protect americans by signing a useless executive order preventing production centers in US to deliver vaccines outside US. So ignorant... Here in Canada, the Pfizer vaccine is produced in Belgium and the Moderna one is produced in Switzerland. And he probably doesn't even know those countries are in Europe. In fact a lot of his followers think Europe is a country...
Trump is still denying the COVID situation preferring to claim that he doesn't know what is QANON... It may be true as he is an ignorant and so are a bunch of people in USA and unfortunately in almost all countries. He pretends to protect americans by signing a useless executive order preventing production centers in US to deliver vaccines outside US. So ignorant... Here in Canada, the Pfizer vaccine is produced in Belgium and the Moderna one is produced in Switzerland. And he probably doesn't even know those countries are in Europe. In fact a lot of his followers think Europe is a country...
Good to know that leadership is all about talking and doing nothing. Thank you for setting the record straight.
This just announced:
nypost.com
FDA to grant emergency use authorization for Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine: HHS
Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine will be approved for use in the US by the FDA — and vaccinations could begin as early as Monday, Alex Azar said.
nypost.com
I actually heard that the Russian vaccine will only be offered to people below age 60. Depending on your age, you may have to do with one dick for the rest of your life. Sorry for the bad news...
Repeat this post for 2 more days and you might be right. I wish americans the best. First the vaccine, than Trump gets out, later America could get great again but herculean work has to be done to get back its credibility. Rememeber Pompeo saying "The world is watch"... you bet the world is watching.This just announced:
FDA to grant emergency use authorization for Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine: HHS
Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine will be approved for use in the US by the FDA — and vaccinations could begin as early as Monday, Alex Azar said.
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