Coronavirus

[hungry101]

All the medical experts are saying that outdoor dining does not present a significant risk so than why shut it down? Why not throw a virgin in a volcano?

Like it hot - is it OK that a movie company is allowed to film on location and set up an almost identical tent just a few feet from the restaurant that the government shutdown and cater food to the essential workers (actors on a set). And meanwhile the governor was caught dining with 6 other couples in the most expensive restaurant in Napa eating a free dinner $400/plate dinner that was paid for by the medical lobby of CA. That is fucking insane.

 

[The Nature Boy]

Honestly, it’s a lil different for Gavin. Everyone keeps goin on and on about him @ the birthday party @ the winery. Can we put it to rest finally. Gavin’s not the usual politician, has a different way of doing things.

 

[Klopomor]

Honestly, it’s a lil different for Donald. Everyone keeps goin on and on about him ... Can we put it to rest finally. Donald’s not the usual politician, has a different way of doing things.

 

[IamNY]

Everybody should be treated equally. Shut all the outdoor dining or let them all be open. If people need to eat during a movie production they can bring lunch from home like many Americans do every day.

 

[hungry101]

To hell with Hollywood and their so called art. Maybe they don’t need to be making this shitty sitcom right now? But the truth of the matter is that the Hollywood producer is friends of Gavin Newsom and the elite class. They can do what they want. The restaurant owner and all the people they employ and the patrons that they serve are no account to the elite class.

 

[IamNY]

I certainly wouldn’t consider making a movie “essential”.

 

[Fradi]

What is not arbitrary, are the 2,000 reported deaths so far today in USA
What is not arbitrary is that Germany has 24 deaths by 100,000 residents
What is not arbitrary is that USA as 87 deaths by 100,000 residents

Here is something that is not arbitrary for you either
Deaths per million population.
USA = 894
UK = 919
Italy = 1022
Spain = 1005
Belgium = 1508
Peru = 1099
Quebec = 875

Fucking Trump must be responsible for all of this.
I wonder why nobody here in Quebec is bitching about Aruda and Legault or are they incapable of doing the simple math to figure out that our own back yard is just as bad, actually a week ago we were worse than the US who only caught up to us in the last couple of weeks.

 

[sene5hos]

Update Yesterday in USA

total 15 468 591 cases 289 529
24 hr. + 218 473 deaths + 3 053

Yes we did the best job

 

[hungry101]

Here is something that is not arbitrary for you either
Deaths per million population.
USA = 894
UK = 919
Italy = 1022
Spain = 1005
Belgium = 1508
Peru = 1099
Quebec = 875

Fucking Trump must be responsible for all of this.
I wonder why nobody here in Quebec is bitching about Aruda and Legault or are they incapable of doing the simple math to figure out that our own back yard is just as bad, actually a week ago we were worse than the US who only caught up to us in the last couple of weeks.

This is good to remember. I used to say that people over 65 should be terrified because it kills 5% but the CDC said that it only killed 2500 healthy people in the USA over 65 that didn’t have some underlying condition. It kills the infirm. These are people we need to protect. The rest of us are most likely fine. The cure that is being prescribed is worse
than the disease.

 

[Fradi]

Update Yesterday in USA

total 15 468 591 cases 289 529
24 hr. + 218 473 deaths + 3 053

Yes we did the best job

How come you seem to be perfectly ok with what is happening in your own back yard.
You never complain about Legault or Aruda even when the numbers are almost identical to the US.
You don’t see anything wrong with that?

 

[gaby]

Effectivement la situation n'est pas rose ici même au Québec....MAIS nous avons un PM et une équipe de direction présentes quotidiennement sur les médias et qui ne cessent de rappeler l'importance de RESPECTER LES CONSIGNES SANITAIRES et exprimer de la COMPASSION pour ceux qui sont touchés.....FOR ME c'est une différence majeure......et du LEADERSHIP ABSOLUMENT nécessaire en période de crise.

 

[IamNY]

In NY we have our governor and mayor holding daily press conferences and our infection rate is still on the incline. The states around us, New Jersey and Connecticut are far worse and their constituents hear from them daily as well. We can blame Trump for screwing this up back in March, I wouldn’t, but I would understand why someone would. But, at this point other than adhering to the CDC guidelines what are Americans supposed to? It is what it is, we have to ride this out and get vaccinated when it’s approved.

 

[Fradi]

Ok and all this nice talk what are the results.
A shit load of people dying, the same crap going on in CHSLD that was during the first wave.
So as long as they say things with emotion shed a few appropriate tears for the dying all is good.
The results of the leadership however are just as piss poor as in the US, yet all of you are busy blaming the big Orange and turn a blind eye to your own.
You can see relatives during Christamas, No wait you can’t do that. You can teach 30 kids in school who were wearing no masks for many weeks, you can be with teachers in the staff room, but if you invite one of those teachers to your home after you are liable to. a $1000 fine.
Give me a fucking break this is leadership for you.

 

[IamNY]

These emergency alerts in Quebec are something that I haven't seen here in the states yet:

Quebec issues emergency alert to remind Gatineau residents of public health guidelines in COVID-19 red zone

An emergency alert issued to Gatineau residents on Wednesday afternoon said, a "public health emergency in effect."

ottawa.ctvnews.ca

 

[gaby]

Yep.....and without it....j'ose à peine imaginer dans quelle situation encore plus tragique on se retrouverait.....and relax....just take a break .

 

[Fradi]

^^^
What is tragic and you can play this game of words all you like is that in the end it depends on the people themselves.
A perfect example is Quebec and the US which have almost identical figures of death per million population which is what really counts.
You can say all the right things do all the right things if people ignore it, it won’t work.
You can cut and paste and blame Trump all you like but you cannot manipulate the figures and the number of deaths they don’t give a shit about your prejudice and hatred of Trump.

What none of you want to admit or give credit for is that the big Orange for all his faults and fuck ups and being a total ego maniac and asshole as a humane being did in the end pump billions into vaccine research, introduced warp speed and removed all the red tape and obstacles to have at least two viable vaccines available by year end.
This is the only thing that will end this nightmare that we have been living otherwise there would be no end to this some countries would have better results in the beginning but would eventually have the virus overrun them anyway.

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

^^^^^ Up 3...All about control. This cure all vaccine was not even tested on people over 80 who are the ones who need it the most. Sad that using hindsight the fucking morons still revert back the the beginning of all this.

 

[gaby]

...if people ignore it, it won't work......leaving HERE you know ALL people are wearing masks dans les places et transports publics...and try to keep distanciation even if it's not always easy to do so.....if they don't do so they will now receive des contraventions......ce sont des directives claires des AUTORITÉS qui sont largement observées.....and a majority----even if it's not pleasant---agree with.
Malheureusement la plupart des éclosions proviennent de lieux clos......travail--écoles -résidences pour aînés--endroits difficiles à gérer....MAIS la majorité observe aussi le confinement à la maison--accepte de s'isoler et ne voir ni famille ni ami.....obéissant toujours aux directives des autorités politiques et sanitaires....ALORS TOUT CELA POUR DIRE QU'IL EST COMPLÈTEMENT FAUX DE DIRE QUE....PEOPLE IGNORE IT...

 

[Fradi]

..ALORS TOUT CELA POUR DIRE QU'IL EST COMPLÈTEMENT FAUX DE DIRE QUE....PEOPLE IGNORE IT...

What you are ignoring is reality.
Ok I agree with you most people are wearing masks.
Amount of people dying in Quebec per million of population is still identical to US.
What does that tell you, of course blame fucking Trump, now why didn’t I think of that, nothing could be simpler.

 

[hormone]

^^^
A perfect example is Quebec and the US which have almost identical figures of death per million population which is what really counts.

You can cut and paste and blame Trump all you like but you cannot manipulate the figures and the number of deaths they don’t give a shit about your prejudice and hatred of Trump.

What none of you want to admit or give credit for is that the big Orange for all his faults and fuck ups and being a total ego maniac and asshole as a humane being did in the end pump billions into vaccine research, introduced warp speed and removed all the red tape and obstacles to have at least two viable vaccines available by year end.
This is the only thing that will end this nightmare that we have been living otherwise there would be no end to this some countries would have better results in the beginning but would eventually have the virus overrun them anyway.

Well to be exact we cannot compare Québec and the US in all fairness. You could compare Québec to one or many US state(s) that would be better , but not to the whole country. If you want the whole country, you need to comapare Canada to the US.
Health issues and how people follow or don't follow public health (PH) recommendations (recs) is more closely related to state/ province than to the national country level- by legislation and emergency measures. Various states/ provinces have various PH recs and also people have various group atittudes to the virus... Obviously as the pandemic continues to spread, regional differences are abating. But clearly the neglect / failure to take proper measures in some parts of the world has been the source of the perpetuation of this thing.
Yes, it's good that Trump pumped money into vax research (no matter the fundamental reason why he did it...) but currently he is simply doing... nothing! Eyes wide shut.
And yes, indeed the vax is truly the only thing that will eventually end this whole mess... Unless too many people refuse to take it...