Coronavirus

[Fradi]

I have been saying this many times before that Quebec has a death rate worse than the US.
It is all that huge Orange assholes fault of course. that seems to be the only plausible explanation in all these political threads .
Wonder how long it will take these same guys to hold Biden up as the world‘s saviour for getting effective vaccines out in warp speed.

 

[EagerBeaver]

STN is right.
COVID deaths in Quebec, as of now : 6, 710
Deaths in the USA : 252, 000
They have roughly , 40 times our population..
6, 710 x 40 = 268, 000

Honestly, I'm surprised to see that Legault's government gets such a pass..
Our numbers are shameful.
Honeymoon phase for the CAQ but for how long ?

It's really not a fair comparison because Quebec is not a jurisdiction of 50 States, each with their own public health agendas. Quebec should be compared as against Connecticut, or Maine, or Vermont, or other members of the Sensational 6, and then you have an apples to apples comparison rather than apples to oranges. C'mon guys, I thought you were smarter than this.

 

[cloudsurf]

Quebec is in bad shape .Shamefully bad, and those responsible should be run out of government.
Keep in mind though that Quebec`s border is a small part of the Canadian border.
The US as a whole is doing 3 times as bad as Canada as a whole.

 

[EagerBeaver]

What is Quebec's positivity rate? Yesterday Connecticut, a charter member of the Sensational 6 US States, spiked up to 7%. The Governor of CT is in quarantine due to his press spokesperson catching Covid.

A problem the entire US faces is Thanksgiving weekend starting really next Wednesday with the biggest traditional travel day of the year. This is traditionally a weekend of travel and large family gatherings. A huge spike is being expected the following week. Thanksgiving weekend also includes the legendary Black Friday which will hopefully be mostly online this year, but often features huge lines of shoppers at stores, lured by 2 for 1 sales and the like. I bought my sneakers that I wear at a Black Friday sale last year. Sketchers.

 

[EagerBeaver]

By the way Quebec appears to be maintaining very good data on Covid which can be found here, although I do not see positivity rates being posted here:

Data on COVID-19 in Québec

Situation of the coronavirus (COVID-19) in Québec : cases, death data and scenarios for the evolution of COVID-19.

www.quebec.ca

One positive: hospitalizations went down for the first time in a week on November 18.

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

EB, Quebec had 1,500 cases per 100,000, that is a worse rate than 47 states I think.

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

In BC now stricter laws, no home visitors unless the one person is a caregiver or relative etc. Pubs can be open though, was in one last night, packed watching the game with no masks in sight. Weird law.

 

[Fradi]

I think it is fair to compare Quebec to the US or to any state of similar population.
In the end no matter how you role the dice you come up with the fact that Quebec has fucked up royally and people here making Trump out to be the devil incarnate when it comes to the virus and not saying shit about their own backyard is pretty hypocritical to put it mildly.

Now do I put all the blame on Legault and his government, no I think he is saying the right things and probably if he imposed stricter rules it wouldn’t be as bad but then there would be an outcry against his measures far worse than there already is.

I am not so quick to put all the blame on Legault or Trump, by now it has been almost 8 months of this, everybody has a mind of their own, do you really need a politician to tell or force you to wear a mask, social distance and to keep all contact to the very minimum and stay the fuck home.
Do we need the army to force a total lock down, it certainly seems so because otherwise we as a free people are not willing to do it on our own, personally I would be totally against this I don’t believe any reason is valid enough to allow this.
To me that would be worse than the virus.

I do however blame China for allowing this to be spread beyond its borders and not informing the rest of the world in time as to how serious this virus was.

 

[EagerBeaver]

EB, Quebec had 1,500 cases per 100,000, that is a worse rate than 47 states I think.

That is a 1.5% positivity rate, which is not bad. CT was at 6.48% as of yesterday:

COVID-19 data resources

A repository for data related to COVID-19 cases, state resources and emergency response efforts

portal.ct.gov

In NYC, the threshold for closing schools is 3%.

 

[hungry101]

That is a 1.5% positivity rate, which is not bad. CT was at 6.48% as of yesterday:

COVID-19 data resources

A repository for data related to COVID-19 cases, state resources and emergency response efforts

portal.ct.gov

In NYC, the threshold for closing schools is 3%.

And closing schools in NYC because the transmission rate is 3% is fucking insane. The transmission rate within the schools is 0.19%. How can politicians bar 1MM children from schools because the transmission rate within the schools is < 0.2%? Keep in mind that COVID is 100% survivable for the students and ~99.8% survivable for the entire population.

New York City Schools to Close Again Due to the Coronavirus

For the second time in 8 months, the nation's biggest school district is closing due to the pandemic

time.com

 

[IamNY]

What's interesting about NY and NYC is that they will shut down the schools at a 3% transmission rate but when the governor addresses the state he mentions the positivity rate but doesn't include the "cluster" or "hotspot" areas so that the percentages are lower. It's a smoke show. The governor of NY needs to get off his book tour and face the facts that the positivity rate in NY is heading up and masks, social distancing, washing hands, shutting down gyms and bars just isn't working. We were fortunate enough to have a low positivity rate during the summer. He needs to get his head out of his ass and figure out how to keep NY from spiking like our neighbors. As far as mayor DiBlasio closing the schools, I'm not sure why it's so important for these government officials to close schools. And I'm seeing my family for Thanksgiving, the governor can suck it.

 

[EagerBeaver]

The 3% positivity rate threshold for NYC school closure does seem low to me, but I do not know what the science is behind that rate and I assume that there is some reason they went with that rate. For the Canadians in the thread who do not know, NYC had been hovering in the high 2s positivity rate for weeks and this pending development had been widely discussed and debated. I did not follow the debate closely, but I heard it being discussed on the radio every morning, with invariable snippets of DiBlasio presser speeches warning that closing would happen if 3% got breached.

 

[hungry101]

It is very likely EB that only the political science supports this move. I believe the school closings are due to a deal with the evil teacher’s union. Some kids get their most nutritious meal of the day at school. Many do not have WiFi access. Some are abused at home etc (lock families in a house for 6 months and see what happens) and meanwhile the economy tanks.

 

[EagerBeaver]

Rick Scott is now positive for Covid:

Florida Republican senator says he has Covid-19

Republican Sen. Rick Scott of Florida said in a statement Friday morning he has tested positive with Covid-19, adding to the number of lawmakers in recent days that have tested positive with the virus.

www.cnn.com

 

[ssj3]

The 3% positivity rate threshold for NYC school closure does seem low to me, but I do not know what the science is behind that rate and I assume that there is some reason they went with that rate.

There is a reason why they have 3% and it has nothing to do with science. It’s the threshold that was negotiated with the teachers union in NYC. That’s why you have other regions in NY with schools still open even though they have higher than 3%

 

[EagerBeaver]

There is a reason why they have 3% and it has nothing to do with science. It’s the threshold that was negotiated with the teachers union in NYC. That’s why you have other regions in NY with schools still open even though they have higher than 3%

So it's really all about the teachers and not the students then.

 

[minutemenX]

That is a 1.5% positivity rate, which is not bad. CT was at 6.48% as of yesterday:

I believe the positivity rate is defined as the percentage of the positive results from the total number tested per current day. You guys are comparing apples and oranges here.

 

[EagerBeaver]

Toronto Lockdown! This is the financial epicenter of Canada:

Covid-19: Canada's largest city moves back into lockdown

Cases are rising across the country, and several other regions have had to increase restrictions.

www.bbc.com

 

[Like_It_Hot]

Mr. PRESIDENT TRUMP please scrap that trade deal with China...exercise your 30-day guarantee option of first refusal on that trade deal!...lol!...put AMERICA FIRST!!!...:usa2:

So pathetic to address this request to the Spreader in Chief who denied to address the problem and is now responsible for more than 250,000 deaths. Come on, the election is over, the sore loser is Trump.

 

[CLOUD 500]

What Legault is waiting for? All the kids are bringing the virus home from school, is he blind or what? Yet, every day there are over thousands new cases! Yeah right! People are not stupid! The numbers speaks for itself.

Legault is a clown. It is always the fault of the bars and gyms. Reality is cases were stable till schools reopened. Kids are super spreaders of viruses and then they bring it home and pass it on to their parents.