Is it me or PSE/GFE means nothing these days?

[Lunaseraphim]

Honestly I advertise myself as a GFE provider but I sometimes get clients who are looking for a PSE experience for cheaper... I generously offer cimsw on top of all the usual acronyms included in GFE (yes bbbj, dfk, daty etc) but that doesn't mean I secretly want this type of booking. Cause I don't.

Things I associate with PSE: greek, FF, dirty talking and insulting, very rough sex, hair pulling, slapping, choking etc. I'm saying that because this is what you see in a lot of hardcore porn. And I think a lot of providers who offer PSE would never allow some of the things I just mentioned.

I think as a client you have to be the one being honest about what your needs are, learn to read the room and avoid asking for services that aren't clearly advertised. Obviously I'm not talking about providers promising one thing as an advertising tactic and then you find out they don't actually provide these services in person..

It's not because we're being paid that we're not allowed to have boundaries.

 

[kstanb]

When PSE is offered, I see it more like an invitation to open the discussion on what PSE activities she likes and to define if some of our kinks match or not
if they don't match I would stick to GFE; which is a lot more homogeneous in terms of what it means

 

[Lunaseraphim]

When PSE is offered, I see it more like an invitation to open the discussion on what PSE activities she likes and to define if some of our kinks match or not
if they don't match I would stick to GFE; which is a lot more homogeneous in terms of what it means

I think that's really good practice honestly. Because of the reasons mentioned above I often ask new clients what their expectations are before a booking because not everyone asks questions or says what they're looking for. That way we're both on the same page.

 

[Enjoying life]

Honestly I advertise myself as a GFE provider but I sometimes get clients who are looking for a PSE experience for cheaper... I generously offer cimsw on top of all the usual acronyms included in GFE (yes bbbj, dfk, daty etc) but that doesn't mean I secretly want this type of booking. Cause I don't.

Things I associate with PSE: greek, FF, dirty talking and insulting, very rough sex, hair pulling, slapping, choking etc. I'm saying that because this is what you see in a lot of hardcore porn. And I think a lot of providers who offer PSE might not even allow would never allow some of the things I just mentioned.

I think as a client you have to be the one being honest about what your needs are, learn to read the room and avoid asking for services that aren't clearly advertised. Obviously I'm not talking about providers promising one thing as an advertising tactic and then you find out they don't actually provide these services in person..

It's not because we're being paid that we're not allowed to have boundarie

Honestly I advertise myself as a GFE provider but I sometimes get clients who are looking for a PSE experience for cheaper... I generously offer cimsw on top of all the usual acronyms included in GFE (yes bbbj, dfk, daty etc) but that doesn't mean I secretly want this type of booking. Cause I don't.

Things I associate with PSE: greek, FF, dirty talking and insulting, very rough sex, hair pulling, slapping, choking etc. I'm saying that because this is what you see in a lot of hardcore porn. And I think a lot of providers who offer PSE might not even allow would never allow some of the things I just mentioned.

I think as a client you have to be the one being honest about what your needs are, learn to read the room and avoid asking for services that aren't clearly advertised. Obviously I'm not talking about providers promising one thing as an advertising tactic and then you find out they don't actually provide these services in person..

It's not because we're being paid that we're not allowed to have boundaries.

Its
like my SP says, “Just ask, as it’s yes or no! Always be kind!

 

[RayaMaven]

Honestly having the "whats on your menu" question is such a turn off for me. I do so many things, it would take me a good 15 minutes to write it all. And then during the date, I'd have to remember that the client picked GFE, so I can't slowly take the whole dick down my throat even if its the perfect size. Absolutely hate it. So I got rid of GFE or PSE all together. I call my rate all inclusive. I truly hope this is understood as "Everything" is included. (of course, no BBFS as we all know) But l cannot be bothered to remember that xyz is not included so i'd have to stop myself in the moment. I find it so much more fun when I can see the vibe of the client and give exactly what the chemistry produces. Nice, slow cuddly, more performance or anything in between(with consent of course)

At the same time, I understand that as a client you'd want to know if the things you are looking for are possible. In my opinion the best way is to just say, "I love deep french kissing, bare blow job and would love to lick your feet" and most likely the provider will say what she thinks would be fun to do and adjust her rate if need be. If that provider is me, I will most likely still lick your balls too, --after asking you if I can.

 

[DetectiveDavidMills]

Honestly having the "whats on your menu" question is such a turn off for me. I do so many things, it would take me a good 15 minutes to write it all. And then during the date, I'd have to remember that the client picked GFE, so I can't slowly take the whole dick down my throat even if its the perfect size. Absolutely hate it. So I got rid of GFE or PSE all together. I call my rate all inclusive. I truly hope this is understood as "Everything" is included. (of course, no BBFS as we all know) But l cannot be bothered to remember that xyz is not included so i'd have to stop myself in the moment. I find it so much more fun when I can see the vibe of the client and give exactly what the chemistry produces. Nice, slow cuddly, more performance or anything in between(with consent of course)

At the same time, I understand that as a client you'd want to know if the things you are looking for are possible. In my opinion the best way is to just say, "I love deep french kissing, bare blow job and would love to lick your feet" and most likely the provider will say what she thinks would be fun to do and adjust her rate if need be. If that provider is me, I will most likely still lick your balls too, --after asking you if I can.

 

[dagreatness]

I was thinking the same thing

 

[CuriousGent]

Another description i see that is used frequently is open minded service or generous service, i feel like this could have a different meaning depending on the SP

 

[EastWind]

GFE has been a questionable acronym since way back to 2007. There was an SP who called herself Senusual Cleo. Nothing sensual mind you. She didn’t do it to me but she did it to few others. She was all safe GFE but to a real extreme. As time went on she wouldn’t even give you a handjob unless it is covered. This was brought up here in Merb by many who saw her. This pissed her off I guess as she has anger management issues and she immediately declared NRP. Yet I think she changed her stance down the line as she was not getting any bookings.

Also the girl can change her tune at any moment. Just because she is willing to do something the first time does not mean this will be the next. First time I saw Gabrielle Luv she gave a real amazing head focused bare BJ. The next time I saw her thinking it will be a repeat she went and stated that she only go CBJ. After that never saw her again.

 

[urquell]

GFE has been a questionable acronym since way back to 2007. There was an SP who called herself Senusual Cleo. Nothing sensual mind you. She didn’t do it to me but she did it to few others. She was all safe GFE but to a real extreme. As time went on she wouldn’t even give you a handjob unless it is covered. This was brought up here in Merb by many who saw her. This pissed her off I guess as she has anger management issues and she immediately declared NRP. Yet I think she changed her stance down the line as she was not getting any bookings.

Also the girl can change her tune at any moment. Just because she is willing to do something the first time does not mean this will be the next. First time I saw Gabrielle Luv she gave a real amazing head focused bare BJ. The next time I saw her thinking it will be a repeat she went and stated that she only go CBJ. After that never saw her again.

Safe GFE is a bullshit term invented as market speak to pretend to offer a service without really offering it.

 

[ChloeCoeur]

This pissed her off I guess as she has anger management issues and she immediately declared NRP. Yet I think she changed her stance down the line as she was not getting any bookings.

What is NRP?

 

[Jacobisrael]

What is NRP?

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