There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again.
Carney's not a great speaker when things go off script. I mean, I'll vote for him because there's no other good option in my opinion, but damn. He needs work.
And amazingly, your friend search provides very little for "agency duos" that's relevant to his current question, at the current time. He probably already did a search.